What about D'argo and..? SPOILER

[Cedric]

Ooohh well, no one seems interested... Perhaps wasn't the most interesting question, :rolleyes: but man.. discussions actually about farscape seems almost non-existant on this forum, :( really sad.

[Beautiful Beard]

what was your question?

I feel soemtimes that the forum spend too much time talking about how great Farsacpe is and not enough time dissecting it to discover why it is os great and why it can be even greater.

[Nicola]

OK. So who do you think killed Salis in Durka Returns?

[Nutty_Angel]

I think it was durka but only cos Chiana didn't get there first, cos Durka seemed to enjoy killing and would want revenge on the people who had imprisoned him, whereas Chiana was locked up got out after durka.

Cedric what was your question, i really wanna know now!!

[Nicola]

I think it was durka but only cos Chiana didn't get there first, cos Durka seemed to enjoy killing and would want revenge on the people who had imprisoned him, whereas Chiana was locked up got out after durka.

Cedric what was your question, i really wanna know now!!

That is one theory.

[Nutty_Angel]

Is that the same as your theory then?

[Nicola]

Is that the same as your theory then?

Nope. ;)

[jerseygirl]

If it mattered to the story - if they wanted us to know - they would have told us. It certainly could have been Durka. It may have been Chiana, although I think for her killing would be a last resort. She's a runner by nature, not a killer. But it could have been her.

The point is the doubt, not the certainty. Personally, I don't think it matters. I'd rather not know.

[Nicola]

If it mattered to the story - if they wanted us to know - they would have told us. It certainly could have been Durka. It may have been Chiana, although I think for her killing would be a last resort. She's a runner by nature, not a killer. But it could have been her.

The point is the doubt, not the certainty. Personally, I don't think it matters. I'd rather not know.

But if you want to discuss the show.... that is a good question to ask. That way you get other peoples takes on the show... on the characters... on the intent of the story.

[teleri]

So, Nicola, what IS your theory? And if you think Chiana did it, how? Far as I can tell, she WAS locked up when it happened.
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[Nicola]

Not Chiana :no: Any other ideas? :bounce:

(I love talking about my favourite show.)

[Beautiful Beard]

I agree, it doesnt seem in CHiana's nature to kill like that (well not that early on in the show's developmetn, maybe after Season 3)

ANd what was Cedric's question????

[Nicola]

I agree, it doesnt seem in CHiana's nature to kill like that (well not that early on in the show's developmetn, maybe after Season 3)

It is important to note that Chiana does kill, witness Commander Javio in "A Hidden Memory". However the look on her face while Javio is being crispy fried is not the look of an individual used to killing. (My personal belief is that Javio is the first individual she ever killed - but I have no proof other than the look on her face.)

So I think Chiana does kill when it is necessary (i.e., Altana in Home on the Remains), but she would not hunt to kill - which is what happened to Salis. No matter how repellant a nebari he was (and he soooooo was).


And what was Cedric's question????

Yeah! What was Cedric's question? I thought he was trying to get discussion going... but if he had a real question - I wanna hear it. :D *need foot tapping smilie*

[Nutty_Angel]

I still wanna know who you think killed Salis Nicola!!

[Nicola]

I still wanna know who you think killed Salis Nicola!!

I most certainly have my own idea who the guilty party is in The Nebari Murder Mystery but don't you guys have any other ideas?

John maybe? Rygel? Aeryn?

[Nutty_Angel]

i don't think John would do it, he wasn't that accustomed to killing at this point, I think Aeryn still thinks of durka as a great hero at this point so it couldn't of been her, Zhann seemed to annoyed at the fact he had been killed so i don't think it was her, But i never thought of the possiblity of it being D'Argo.

[crazy_chi]

hm....what about rygel? he HATED durka, so he might have wanted to go after one of his allies. it also may have been durka because he may have wanted to frame chiana or he may have wanted to show the crew that he was innocent because they would think that he wouldn't kill one if his own men.....its a really good question....

[Nicola]

Ok. Here is my idea of who killed Salis. (Yes, I have spent far to much time thinking about this and puzzling my way through the clues. I need help.)

I think it was Zhaan.

I am copying two of my posts on the topic from the Spaceboard but unfortunately I can't provide links 'cause the threads are gone.

I don't think Chiana killed Salis and I will get into my reasons in a minute (if you have persevered this long ) and the reason she didn't answer Crichton was because she didn't know. But Chiana left her response to John at the end of the episode ambiguous because if the crew thought she was capable of that kind of violence then maybe they would respect her. In her world, the kind of life that she has been living, the only thing that is worth gaining from others is respect. It gets you a measure of safety, a measure of freedom, and a maybe even access to your next meal. So Chiana wouldn't deny it - but she didn't confirm it either - which makes me even more sure that she didn't do it. (Although Salis was one sorry excuse for a sentient being and it wouldn't have bothered me a bit if she had offed him.)

So who did kill Salis?

Well we have two main suspects, Durka and Chiana, and the rest of the cast who are possibilities.

I am fairly sure that Chiana didn't do it. In addition to the reasons I listed in my other post, Salis did tell Durka to warn everyone that Chiana was dangerous, and yet the last time we see Salis alive, he is looking toward (presumably) his murderer with a look of mild inquiry. As though he had nothing to fear from whoever was approaching him.

Salis is aware that Chiana can be violent, and he knows that she would do anything to get free. So his passive stance suggests that it was not Chiana who was approaching him.

Besides, Chiana wasn't even able to overcome John in a physical confrontation and that is when she had the drop on him and was armed (with that funky oar thing) to boot. So no. I don't think Chiana is our murderer.

It might have been Durka. Durka definitely had the motive and certainly the ability. Plus, Salis was stabbed and the only person with a knife that we saw was Durka. (Well, Aeryn took a knife from Rygel - but I am confident that it wasn't Aeryn who did in Salis.)

However, when Aeryn asked Durka if he had killed Salis he didn't answer her. He just paused and then looked away. Aeryn took that as confirmation (as he intended I am sure) and warned John. But if Durka had murdered Salis he would have claimed the kill.

He was in control of Moya, he had two hostages as guarantees and he had nothing to lose by admitting it. Plus he did have something to gain ... it might have given him an edge when psychologically terrorising the crew. "Yes, the old Durka is back … I murder without compunction and maim and torture ... Bwahahahahah!" I think he would have claimed the kill if he had made it.

By not claiming the kill, he let those who didn't know who did it - assume he was the killer (and allow him the psychological advantage) without leaving himself open to a direct contradiction from whomever did do it - and thereby weaken his position.
(If you followed that last sentence I am impressed - I wrote it and I get confused! )

I hadn't really considered Moya/Pilot or the DRD's - but Salis wasn't the threat to the leviathan that Durka turned out to be - and the DRD's didn't kill Durka.

I think we can eliminate Rygel and Aeryn. They were together, and I highly doubt that either one would have wanted to kill Salis at that moment (Durka yes, Salis no), or would have allowed the other to do so without some kind of significant bonding interaction - and we saw no evidence of that in the tag scene.

D'Argo was in the maintenance bay the whole time. At least that is what we were shown and he never budged from his position covering the entrance with his Qualta Blade. Besides, D'Argo definitely does not want to piss off the Nebari cruiser that is coming to rendezvous with Durka, Salis and Chiana.

It would be out of character for Crichton to do it, although I think he is starting to think it might be a good idea. While Crichton has changed a great deal since he has arrived in the Uncharted Territories I don't think he has changed that much. Even in "That Old Black Magic" when Crichton finally did decided to fight Crais it was only after much goading and rejected attempts to negotiate that he was pushed to the edge.

I don't think he would endanger the crew just to save Chiana without talking to the rest of the group first. Plus, he didn't know that Durka was not as cleansed as he used to be ... and therefore he would have had to neutralise Durka as well. As far as we know Crichton made no move to do any such thing.

So who is left?

Zhaan.

Why do I think that Zhaan is the best candidate for the part of 'murderer' in Friday's episode?

1. Zhaan is very distressed by the concept of mental cleansing. She is the one character that pursues the issue repeatedly, both with Salis and Durka and is extremely agitated by the concept. (This is shown repeatedly during the episode.)

As well, in Rhapsody in Blue, Zhaan was very displeased with the mind meddling that Tahleen and her cohorts were practising. And at that time she was prepared to kill Tahleen in order to stop her. Crichton prevented that particular kill, but we know that Zhaan is capable of violence, "Soft yes, weak no".

The conversation that Zhaan and Salis had in the galley when Zhaan was asking about mental cleansing went as follows:

ZHAAN: The Nebari practice mind control?
SALIS: We simply eliminated those thought patterns that led him to behave inappropriately.
ZHAAN: Eliminated?
SALIS: A process of neural realignment so intricate that each subject must be placed under cryonic suspension for nearly 100 cycles.
ZHAAN: And what does each subject feel during this...this "treatment"?

This would seem to her to be a terrible violation of personal integrity and not something she would be willing to tolerate.

2. Zhaan is aware of the capabilities of the standard Nebari Host vessel that engaged and defeated a fully armed and state of the art (100 cycles ago) PK vessel. Moya is unarmed and without defences except for a patched in defence shield that DIDN'T save the Zelbinion.

3. The vessel that Salis, Durka and Chiana arrived on is equipped with a massive energy weapon 'powered right down'. It wouldn't help to just overpower Salis and put him back on board his ship to wait for Nebari rescue. He has the capability AND the motivation to take out Moya and her crew without any difficulty. So he really needs to be taken care of permanently, and he doesn't deserve any mercy.

4. The scene before Salis encounters his murderer we see Zhaan searching in the galley, presumably for Chiana. There are knives in the galley. The very next scene is Salis looking towards his murderer with a look of mild inquiry. Which is exactly the same way he was looking at Zhaan when she was asking about Nebari mind cleansing.

But the clincher for me is a scene that was broadcast for the European audience - but was cut out of this airing. For those who don't want to be spoiled for the DVD version of the episode …. Look away! Look away!
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5. Salis threatened both Rygel and herself with the Nebari mental cleansing.

Paraphrasing here...

After Rygel's abortive attempt to kill Durka.

Salis: You will turn Rygel over to the Nebari for treatment.
Zhaan: I will do nothing of the sort.
(Pause)
Salis: There are many aspects of YOUR character that would benefit from adjustment.
Zhaan moves aggressively towards him.
Salis: My point exactly.
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End of spoiler space.

She killed her lover (and helped disperse Maldus) before for the same reasons. To protect those she cares about. So.... I think it was Zhaan - who recognised a more serious threat and dealt with it accordingly. Zhaan can be very pragmatic when she wants to be.

So … there you go, the part of tonight's murderer was played by Zhaan. (At least in my version of the Nebari Murder Mysteries! )

Yeah. I know. I have spent far to much time thinking about this. *sigh*

P.S. If it was Zhaan who offed Salis it makes me even more of a Zhaan fan. If that is possible. I love complicated characters.

[crazy_chi]

Ok. Here is my idea of who killed Salis. (Yes, I have spent far to much time thinking about this and puzzling my way through the clues. I need help.)

I think it was Zhaan.

I am copying two of my posts on the topic from the Spaceboard but unfortunately I can't provide links 'cause the threads are gone.

Yeah. I know. I have spent far to much time thinking about this. *sigh*

P.S. If it was Zhaan who offed Salis it makes me even more of a Zhaan fan. If that is possible. I love complicated characters.


:eek: wow. thats amazing research nicola!

[Nicola]

:eek: wow. thats amazing research nicola!

Thanks. It is sad isn't it? *sigh*

[Viper1880]

Good point, Nicola!

[Nutty_Angel]

Yeah. I know. I have spent far to much time thinking about this. *sigh*
wow ur right u spent alot of time on this but don't worry i do the same thing :D , and well it actully makes sense now that i remember the ep from that point of view. Thanx nicola!

and on a different note, does anyone know what question Cedric was asking in the tittle of the Tread?? :colors:

[Nicola]

and on a different note, does anyone know what question Cedric was asking in the tittle of the Tread?? :colors:


I don't know. Sounds like it could be interesting.

Maybe: What about D'Argo and Aeryn's relationship in Season 4? In most of Season 4 D'Argo was not really pleased with Aeryn (she left John, she broke his heart, she comes back pregnant and doesn't tell him the deal with the pregnancy, he has to find out from his friends, she brings Scorpy on board, etc. etc. etc.).

On Aeryn's part she probably would start getting resentful of someone who is constantly judging her without knowing all the facts (and we still don't know all the facts!)

So exactly where and when did they reconnect?

Or maybe someone else has a better question?

[Nutty_Angel]

ooo what about D'Argo and Zhann, i thought they might have been a couple before Chiana came along.

[Namrat]

Excellent job Nicola :eek: . . . I agree with you ;)

[Beautiful Beard]

Yeah, After her first appearance, i would never have guessed that Chi would end up with D.

I hoped that D would have ended up with Jool, but that didn t pan out.

Anyone know why Jool was written out/ Tammy Macintosh left?

[Nutty_Angel]

Anyone know why Jool was written out/ Tammy Macintosh left?
I dunno maybe she just wanted to leave like Virginia Hey (sp?) did.

[MrX]

I've always believed that it was Chiana who killed Salis. BTW, Han shot first. In fact, he was the only person who fired.

I did like that D'Argo/Jool thing that they had going. Oh well. Now they're both dead. That's life in the UTs

[mjwillia]

I Jool dead? I thought Sikuzo was dead but not Jool???

[Nicola]

I Jool dead? I thought Sikuzo was dead but not Jool???

Nope. PK Wars shows Jool and Sikozo both (supposedly) deceased. Although we never see a dead body in either case and the last we see of Sikozu she and Grunschlk are staring at each other.

[mjwillia]

I remember the Sikozo scene...

What happened to Jool? I don't remember that part...

[Nicola]

She blew up when the Scarrens nuked the Temple on Arnessk. Supposedly.

[mjwillia]

Aw! Man! Now I remember that scene! Jool was always so "anti-violence" pro "intelligence" it's a shame she went out that way...

[Beautiful Beard]

Jools could have survived but i feel that that would lessen the event in PKW.

Also if there is not going to be a series 5 then i suppose she should remain dead and not at a loose end.

Can anyone tell me is there a thread discussing ideas for series 5 like-


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Who could replace Dargo?
Any other additional members?
Dargo Sun Chriton, could he grow faster than a normal kid so we could see his development and make him an intersting character?
And who would be the major bad guys?

[mjwillia]

I although I loved Dargo and Jool, I hate it when characters come back to life. So, if they are dead then let them be dead. John doesn't count since they had two of him. I also don't mind "ghosts" like when Zan came back in "John Quxote" for a small part in a "game."

Does any one know if "Phoenix TV" is still around?

Phoenix TV would have Virtual Seasons of Canceled TV shows. The season was written by Fans. Some Virtual TV shows were actually very good. I wonder if Farscape in on Phoenix TV?

[Nicola]

There was quite the discussion about Jool's possibility of survival (or not) in this thread Jool fans rejoice! Reason inside. (http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30018)

And another thread on:

Sikozu & Grunslik (SPOILERS) (http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31029&highlight=jool)

That might bring up some interesting points and ideas for discussion.

[oorat]

well, one thing that tosses up a possibility for the return of dargo and even jool, remember the horizons short story rockne wrote just after the cancellation of farscape. dargo was alive in it. they talked about the crew having gone into the "other side" and come back. it was something they wouldnt talk about.

what if they went to the other side and brought dargo back?

[mjwillia]

That's a good possibility. The only thing that keeps me from believing Dargo will be back is that Anthony said Dargo won't be back. Well, ok - I think what Anthony said something along the lines that Dargo is dead and that was that...

[Nicola]

well, one thing that tosses up a possibility for the return of dargo and even jool, remember the horizons short story rockne wrote just after the cancellation of farscape. dargo was alive in it. they talked about the crew having gone into the "other side" and come back. it was something they wouldnt talk about.

what if they went to the other side and brought dargo back?

Yep. Jool was also alive in Horizons (and Rochne mentioned something very strange about Natira :eek: ).

But the important thing to remember is that the journalist said that "Death was not a state but a place."

John can navigate wormholes - and he understands the implications of unrealised realities. Chaina has that very interesting relationship with time - which has quite a bit to do with wormhole travel. Both Aeryn and Pilot can sense wormholes.

And Stark. Stark's mask can interact with time tears and can transport living beings 500 cycles into the past (...Different Destinations)

I don't think this story is over by a looooong shot.

[Afarscapefan]

Answers for Beautiful Beard's questions.

Who could replace Dargo?

Jothee - as Jothee grows up he could become more Luxan than Sebacean. Like father like son - except the twist could be he is exactly like his father. same features same mannerisms but calls himself "Jothee".

Any other additional members?

I suppose we can't space them.

Dargo Sun Chriton, could he grow faster than a normal kid so we could see his development and make him an intersting character?

A normal kid - who grows up faster than normal and who turns blue in the sunlight. Very intersting character.

And who would be the major bad guys?

Take a number and join the queue like everyone else.

Anyone got correct answers for Beautiful Beard's questions? ;)

[Beautiful Beard]

I also had that idea for Dargo Sun Chriton. He could start of as a pre-teen and evolve to a teen in a few episodes.

There could be some good story lines as Aeryn and Chriton teach him ht e ways of the universe.
Aeryn could teach him tyo be a goo soldier (imagine a 13 year old packing a pulse pistol) and John could teach him to be a good human being.

If Jothee did replace Dargo, he would be uite different as we have seen already. He is a lot more cerebral than Dargo was and possibly doesnt share all of his father's luxan faults.

I would miss the male bonding that went on between D and JC though.

Perhaps Jools people could want revenge for her death and want JC's head.

[Nutty_Angel]

hmm looks like this thread died, but one more question
:wall: what did cedric ask in that tittle question!!!!!!!! :tomato:

[Boron]

I still want D'argo to be alive, and Sikouzu was one of my favorites. I miss Zhaan, too.
I believe with all the dealings with death (both Zhaan and Stark, for example) There could be a feasible way. I once had an idea that Stark would be on Moya one day, and notice a strange small plant growing in a dirty corner or something. Curious, he would nurse it until it became very big, and blossomed into some sort of rendition of Zhaan. (She was a plant, you know).
D'argo could have been whisked off barely alive as a prisoner just before the planet was destroyed, and nursed over his traumatic injuries so he could be interrogated, then some sort of fantastic escape happens......
Sikouzu was found out to be a spy of a sort, pressured into it by wanting freedom for her people. Could Scorpius have started to kill her, and then changed his mind at the last minute, thinking of the "relationship" they had? Maybe he just left her unconsious and she was captured along with D'argo?
I know people say let the dead alone, but these were some of my favorite characters and I WANT THEM BACK!!!!!!

[mjwillia]

Very interesting Idea regarding Zhaan "growing" in a corner somewhere... Remember - Zhaan did release "spores" when she was hungry! If Delvians could reproduce asexually then it is possible that one or two little spores didn't get expelled from Moya and a small Delvian could sprout somewhere on Moya! Good Idea you had!

Remember - Sikuzo is a biloid so her makers could make another Sikuzo and you would have her back.

I don't know about D'argo...

[Nicola]

I still want D'argo to be alive, and Sikouzu was one of my favorites. I miss Zhaan, too.
I believe with all the dealings with death (both Zhaan and Stark, for example) There could be a feasible way. I once had an idea that Stark would be on Moya one day, and notice a strange small plant growing in a dirty corner or something. Curious, he would nurse it until it became very big, and blossomed into some sort of rendition of Zhaan. (She was a plant, you know).
D'argo could have been whisked off barely alive as a prisoner just before the planet was destroyed, and nursed over his traumatic injuries so he could be interrogated, then some sort of fantastic escape happens......
Sikouzu was found out to be a spy of a sort, pressured into it by wanting freedom for her people. Could Scorpius have started to kill her, and then changed his mind at the last minute, thinking of the "relationship" they had? Maybe he just left her unconsious and she was captured along with D'argo?
I know people say let the dead alone, but these were some of my favorite characters and I WANT THEM BACK!!!!!!

Well, Sikouzu isn't dead. The last we see of her, she is tied to a rock (very Prometheus and God of Fire/Greek Tragedy) and Grunschlk spots her.

If ever two characters were true survivors in Farscape it is those two. Not to mention that the Moya crew left a Transport Pod behind and Sikozu knows where to find it. And both Sikozu and Grunschlk know how to pilot one.

And don't forget Grunschlks previous occupation before he was popcycled. He was into storing nearly dead bodies so that they could harvest the organs. Who is to say that Grunschlk didn't spot a stray Luxan on his way out and see a quick way to make a profit? Luxan organs are as good as anyone elses.... ;)

[mjwillia]

Excellent ideas behind the Grunschlks Theory and the abandoned pod!

If we are lucky all these ideas will come true in a movie!

[Boron]

Very interesting, Nicola.....I see your imagination runs as rampant as mine!!!!

[Cedric]

Eeeh? This thread somehow grew a lot. :)
I became inactive after my post, for personal reasons, but got back now and saw this!

But, I was wondering, did you ever think about Zhaan and D'argo? What was their relationship anyway? I mean, the first season you could really feel some tension between them.. Right? It was really an up and down circus. Sometimes, they seemed to not really care soo much about eachother, more than shipmates, and sometimes, as when D'argo thought Zhaan was.. Elaine(was that D'argo's wife's name?) and kissed her. I always thought it seemed as if Zhaan did actually enjoy it.

Personally I don't think it was that usual Zhaan response being kind and helpfull to everyone, and trying to just play along with Dargo's little game. I know season one was a season of experimentation, but anyways. It's not as if the characters just "forgets" about what's happened before, forgets about their feelings, just because the writers starts thinking for the next season: "No, this isn't working/ or this could be working better if we make some changes here", well, hope you understand what I'm trying to say. Soo, after season one, as Chiana joins up, the writers decides to push aside Zhaan out of the bigger picture. Suddenly, that spark that's been between D'argo and Zhaan disappears completely!(?)

Do you think the writer's were intending to make something more out of that spark? How long were they prepared to go? What do you think about the idea, Zhaan and D'argo as a couple? And last, but not least, did you understand ANY of my rambling?

If you understood what I was trying to say, could you agree about there being some tension between them two in the beginning. I mean, I think it's pretty obvious, but perhaps that's just my point of view.

Sorry if this post seems very incoherent and hard to interpret, but my english isn't the best. I still like you guys not knowing swedish, I hope you guys still like me although not knowing english properly! :)

[Afarscapefan]

I agree with your conclusion that D'argo and Zhaan were "an item" in season one and then along came Chiana and then it was D'argo and Chiana. A lot is left to the imagination in this show which I think is good thing. This is not TV for the brain dead. I imagine this Pure Soap scenario: D'argo says to Zhaan something like, "You are only forty times my age; but age doesn't matter, if we love each other we will be together forever." Then Zhaan responds with something like, "You say that now but you will leave me when the first little tralk comes along." Then along comes Chiana. The D'argo and Zhaan relationship was not meant be. A little bit of pathos doesn't hurt.

On english: Although English is my first and only language I would like to argue that incoherence is my forte; but nobody seems to understand me. Maybe I should preface my posts with a challenge "interpret this if you can". I also subscribe to the theory that english is a defective French dialect therefore now nobody can know english properly. Fun to use and abuse but. ;)

[Nutty_Angel]

hey we finally got answer to what this thread was about!!!

[Nicola]

Oh yeah. Zhaan and D'Argo were definitely an item in the first season. Remember Premiere?

ZHAAN: I am Pa'u Zotoh Zhaan. And you?
D'ARGO: Ka D'Argo. You are Delvian.
ZHAAN: A priest.
D'ARGO: I have heard of your kind's practises....your....appetites.
ZHAAN (smiling): Such as?
D'ARGO: I have heard of something known as the uh, fourth sensation.
ZHAAN: I have experienced this. Not lately
D'ARGO: Oh. Whuh, why were you uh, why have you uh...

That is one of my favourite scenes in Premiere. Watching D'Argo flounder while talking to Zhaan. *snicker*

[HawkZon]

But if you want to discuss the show.... that is a good question to ask. That way you get other peoples takes on the show... on the characters... on the intent of the story.


I like this thought.
I came to Farscape at the end of season three. I never had anyone to discuss episodes with.
In Xena fandom we disected every inch of an episode.
It was only a couple weeks ago I watched Locket with someone and discovered she had a totally different take on the shipper relationship in that episode.

So, what I'm trying to say is, I would LOVE some type of organized watching and discussing. Maybe when we get to syndication. I'd love to chew on these
episodes with other fans.

[Beautiful Beard]

i would love that.

Everyone attempts to watch say "bring home the Beacon" tonight and then the next day is spent dissecting it piece by piece.

Much better than someone posting something about an episode i havent watched in 6 weeks.

[HawkZon]

i would love that.

Everyone attempts to watch say "bring home the Beacon" tonight and then the next day is spent dissecting it piece by piece.

Much better than someone posting something about an episode i havent watched in 6 weeks.

When I originally seached for a Farscpae site I was looking for a discussion group.
It's easy to see that the people hwo watched the first run Farscape already did the discussion thing.
Perhaps we should consider starting a discussion group that coincides with
the syndication run. We should all be able to see the episodes and we'll probably be gettng more new fans.

[mjwillia]

Excellent idea! I'm in!

[Nicola]

Me too!

[HawkZon]

Me too!

Ok, is this perhaps a new Yahoo Group we should start?

[mjwillia]

I don't know anything about Yahoo groups... How do they work?

[HawkZon]

It's easy.
We pick a name for our group. Decscribe what we want it to be.
And decide if we want it open or private. We would want to approve people or else there is a spam problem. then we create the group and the members can decide if they want individual emails or digest...and we're off and running.

[Cedric]

I agree with your conclusion that D'argo and Zhaan were "an item" in season one and then along came Chiana and then it was D'argo and Chiana. A lot is left to the imagination in this show which I think is good thing. [...]Then along comes Chiana. The D'argo and Zhaan relationship was not meant be. A little bit of pathos doesn't hurt.

Aahh great, it wasn't just me then. ;)
I always wonder from time to time, what it would've been like had D'argo found more intereset in Zhaan than Chiana. And what if John had a hard time deciding if he was more attracted(not appearance) to Chiana or to Aeryn? I want to KNOW! :D Would you've wanted to see D'argo's and Zhaan's relationship continue inte season 2 and blossom? Do you think the choice of choosing Chiana was the better one? I for one am not truly sure.. D'argo's and Zhaan's relationship felt more pure to me, more true and mature somehow. Although I wouldn't want to have Chiana fight over D'argo, that would've been just too much.

Ooohh well.. as you said, much is left for the viewer to interpret which is great, it's just that I have a strong urge to share my thoughts from time to time, and whom else to share them with, than Farscape fans? Don't know anyone else really that's interested in Farscape except my sister, and she hardly has any time(I was the one to make her become one of gods favored.. and I asked her, do you see the light!), and she's only watched half first season with me.

About the english thing that you said, haha, I'll remember that. Great to use when someone is complaining about my english. :)


Nicola: Mmm, I agree, that scene is nice. I always feel a bit embarassed though when watching it. ;)


If some of you were to start a discussiongroup, I'd sure be on to join it! I have a lot of time atm, just left school so I'm an unemployed hobby programmer.

Until next time! :cool:

[mjwillia]

Well, I'm game to join a Yahoo group - but - wouldn't it be easier to just have a new thread each week here? That way, all of us here can play!

[Cedric]

Sure, whatever work for you guys! If just someone dares to take the initiative, it will probably roll.

Until next time! :cool:

[mjwillia]

Do we need an Admin's permission to start a thread like this? Who is in charge of "Talkin' Farscape?"

Also, when do the syndicated shows begin? September?