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Texane
08-22-2005, 11:05 PM
I learned some new info here. Please read and pass on to anyone you know; it is important.

Here's some reminders about being cautious when we are out and about and/or alone. I know that I need to be reminded every once in a while because I tend to be trusting!

We can now add to the list of victims the retired 77 year old TCU professor from Ft Worth whose body was found last week in Oklahoma, and the 11 year old in Sarasota, FL. Because of these recent abductions in daylight hours, refresh yourself of these things to do in an emergency situation. This is for you, and for you to share with your wife, your children, everyone you know. After reading this, forward it to someone you care about.

It never hurts to be careful in this crazy world we live in.

1. Tip from Tae Kwon Do: The elbow is the strongest point on your body. If you are close enough to use it, DO SO!

2. Learned this from a tourist guide in New Orleans. If a robber asks for your wallet and/or purse, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM. Toss it away from you. Chances are that he is more interested in your wallet and/or purse than you, and he will go for the wallet/purse. RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!

3. If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car, kick out the back tail lights and stick your arm out the hole and start waving like crazy. The driver won't see you, but everybody else will. This has saved lives.

4. Women have a tendency to get into their cars after shopping, eating, working, etc., and just sit (doing their checkbook, or making a list, etc. DO NOT DO THIS! The predator will be watching you, and this is the perfect opportunity for him to get in on the passenger side, put a gun to your head, and tell you where to go. AS SOON AS YOU GET INTO YOUR CAR, LOCK THE DOORS AND LEAVE. (oh jeez; I did this today.)

5. A few notes about getting into your car in a parking lot, or parking garage:

A.) Be aware: look around you, look into your car, at the passenger side floor, in the back seat and underneath the car.

B.) If you are parked next to a big van, enter your car from the passenger door. Most serial killers attack their victims by pulling them into their vans while the women are attempting to get into their cars.

C.) Look at the car parked on the driver's side of your vehicle, and the passenger side. If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car, you may want to walk back into the mall, or work, and get a guard/policeman to walk you back out. IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY (and better paranoid than dead).

6. ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs. Stairwells are horrible places to be alone and the perfect crime spot).

7. If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN! The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in 100 times; And even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ. RUN!

8. As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP It may get you raped, or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a good-looking, well educated man, who ALWAYS played on the sympathies of unsuspecting women. He walked with a cane, or a limp,and often asked "for help" into his vehicle or with his vehicle, which is when he abducted his next victim.

9. Another Safety Point: Someone just told me that her friend heard a crying baby on her porch the night before last, and she called the police because it was late and she thought it was weird. The police told her "Whatever you do, DO NOT open the door." The lady then said that it sounded like the baby had crawled near a window, and she was worried that it would crawl to the street and get run over. The policeman said, "We already have a unit on the way, whatever you do, DO NOT open the door." He told her that they think a SERIAL KILLER has a baby's cry recorded, and uses it to coax women out of their homes thinking that someone dropped off a baby. He said they have not verified it, but have had several calls by women saying that they hear baby crying outside their doors, when they came home alone at night.

Please pass this on and DO NOT open the door for a crying baby. This e-mail should probably be taken seriously because [color]blue]the Crying Baby theory was mentioned on America's Most Wanted this past Saturday when they profiled the serial killer in Louisiana.

I'd like you to forward this to all the women you know. It may save a life. A candle is not dimmed by lighting another candle.

This is not just for women; guys, if you love your mothers, wives, sisters, daughters, etc., you may want to pass it onto them, as well. Send this to any woman you know that may need to be reminded that in the world we live in has a lot of crazies in it, and it's better to be safe than sorry.

Owlman
08-22-2005, 11:23 PM
A kick to the nuts always works.

Also, a woman's high heel shoe can be used as a deadly weapon to the face or neck.

waltersgirl
08-22-2005, 11:46 PM
if your information is from a source other than you, you need to post the link please and credit the source.

Texane
08-23-2005, 12:10 AM
if your information is from a source other than you, you need to post the link please and credit the source.the source is a friend of mine who has no need to take credit for anything.

Texane
08-23-2005, 12:11 AM
A kick to the nuts always works. If they get this close, you need to be ready to think quickly to help yourself.

Also, a woman's high heel shoe can be used as a deadly weapon to the face or neck. That is a really good one, particularly since you need to take them off to run away.

freckle
08-23-2005, 12:22 AM
i have a mini corkscrew on my key chain, anyone messes with me i will have no hesitation in using it on the leg , balls, eye, whatever i reach first!
Dont buy fluffy cute things to put on your keychain buy something that you can defend yourself with.

Texane
08-23-2005, 12:33 AM
Something I was taught in self defense classes when carrying mace became the newest self defense to carry around is that you shouldn't worry if you accidentally mace someone that comes up behind you (example: covers your eyes: "surprise!"). It isn't a joke, and at this day and age, everyone should know that.

StephX
08-23-2005, 01:01 AM
This is reminds of a wierd experience (one of many - I'm a magnet) I had when I was in college (I think I was like 19 or 20 at the time).

My friends and I used to hang out at a spot around the airport in St. Louis and watch the planes fly low above our heads. We'd do this maybe every other weekend for a while and hang out (pilot and aerospace engineers majors). It was a nice spot.

Well, I was out there alone one day - sitting on the hood of my car. I wanted to be alone at the time and think. I don't remember what I was depressed about at the time.

Anyway, A white truck pulls up, and, this Magnum PI looking dude (Tom Selleck look alike - mustache, redish Hawaiian shirt, aviator sunglasses and and all - dated but still frelling hot) rolls down his passenger window and calls out to me.

I jumped off the hood of my car and walked a foot closer to the truck to hear what he was saying. He wanted to know if he was anywhere near an exit off of the highway. That was odd because the access road we were one was the kind airport employees or locals would know about.

I told him that I wasn't exactly sure, but, his exit was a couple of miles off. I guess I was also dumb enough to tell him that I wasn't from there and went to school in the city. He asks where I go and I tell him - SLU.

Ok, well, at this point most direction askers would be on their merry way.

This one wasn't.

Magnum turns on the charm.

He pulls out a few frelling beers from a cooler that was next to him, and, asks me if I'll have one with him! WTF? I tell him I can't stand beer (the truth). lol He offers me mixed drinks...at his house. lol

Talk about trying hard to get a girl to get in your truck!

At this point the wierdness factor spikes. I walk back over to my car and sit on it. Now I don't care if this really was Tom Selleck I am not gonna get in some guys truck I've talked to for 3 minutes at an airport hangout.

This is how the conversation goes after that:

"Come on! Have a drink with me!"
"No"
"Please"
"No"
"I have lots of alcohol" (LOL)
"No thank you"
"Are you sure?"
"Yes, I am"

He gives up at this point, puts the beers away and dives off.

So, what do you all think? Was he lookin' to get lucky or was he a dumb seriel killer?

TheBladeRoden
08-23-2005, 01:59 AM
7. If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN! The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in 100 times; And even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ. RUN!

And when you do this run in an erratic zig zag pattern instead of a straight line so the shooter will have to constantly readjust his aim.

Credit: Worst Case Scenario Survival Handbook

scrape_medic
08-23-2005, 02:39 AM
StephX, I used to get alot of that when I used to work late in a bar and walk home alone when I was 19. If they got too shirty I used to kick eht sh%t out of their car, and often as not my friend the local police officer was just happening to be driving past at the time:D

However one night this guy stopped, went through all the usual "can you help me" routine, then opened the passenger door and said get in.

Yeah right..

I walked on, he drove passed then stopped a little ahead of me, got out of the car and stareted to walk round towards me. He was grinning from ear to ear, (I can't remember much about him now but I still remember that grin), and he kept grinning, despite my voiced intentions to go wake up someone from the houses next to where we where.

He kept grinning as I walked up to the front door and rang the bell, he grinned as I waited to see if there was anyone home, all the time he was getting closer.

He only stopped grinning when the light went on in the hallway of the house, and at that point he got back in his car a drove off, just before the door opened.

Luckily I knew the people in that house so they didn't think I was mad when I told them what happened.

After that I got someone to walk me home, or if Iwas out alone, I would never stop to help a lost motorist.

waltersgirl
08-23-2005, 03:51 AM
the source is a friend of mine who has no need to take credit for anything.


groovy. then state that in your post, because you make it look like you got it from someplace and there's no link.

StephX
08-23-2005, 07:56 AM
Wow, scrape! What a freak!
That sounds like a scene out of a movie. Glad you got to that house on time!

Fyodor
08-23-2005, 08:24 AM
"Bas Rutten's Lethal Self Defense System" Download it from DC++

It's got some moves in there that not many people will be able to do, but there's info in there that you can use if someone tries to harm you.

"And remember, a kick to the groin, allways painful" - Bas

Texane
08-23-2005, 11:50 AM
the stats for a person running away from someone with a gun came from a police department's info re: running after a suspect and why so many rounds are fired if there is a shootout.

fiona-maria
08-23-2005, 12:51 PM
Texane, there is some good info there, thank you.

IMPACT (http://www.prepareinc.com/) is a full-impact self-defense course designed for women specifically, using their lower center of gravity and the strength in their legs. Very effective. I have taken a one-day seminar (when I was 6 months pregnant), and a 5 session series, and found both truly empowering and educational.

One of the things IMPACT teaches women is that, if someone grabs you, you drop to the ground, swivel around and kick the holy living daylights out of them. Kick them in their knees, they can't run away, and they fall over. Then when they are down, you kick them in the head and knock them out. After which, you stand up and yell "9-11!" A key point is to make a lot of noise when you are kicking - scream loudly and continuously. These predators are counting on women who won't make a fuss.

In the training, you get to do this full-strength to a guy who is completely padded all over, so you don't need to worry about hurting him. This gives women the muscle memory they can call on if they are ever attacked. It becomes instinctual.

Another part of this training that is so powerful is the verbal self-defense training they offer. Also, looking around, checking things out all the time, keeping yourself safe.

Very powerful, very effective training. Well worth the financial investment. Check it out. http://www.prepareinc.com/

LiLOrion
08-23-2005, 01:09 PM
...Dont buy fluffy cute things to put on your keychain buy something that you can defend yourself with.

Like keys. They work well. Between the fingers. Though I guess it helps if you know how to throw a punch. :)


And when you do this run in an erratic zig zag pattern instead of a straight line so the shooter will have to constantly readjust his aim...

Serpentine!



This isn't related to women, but did you all hear about the 15 yr.old boy who was almost abducted by an older white man who actually threw a chain around his neck, padlocked it, and then hooked it to the inside of his vehicle? It was around here (in Philadelphia or the burbs) somewhere. The kid managed to get away with the chain and padlock still around his neck. But thats just nuts. Some criminals just wont be denied. Luckily the kid ran towards a car driving down the street and the guy got scared and stopped chasing him. This took place in the daytime.

BaseLine
08-24-2005, 01:25 PM
I think this Japanese woman (http://www.warfalcons.org/download/thief_slam.wmv) also took some self defence classes.

scrape_medic
08-24-2005, 01:33 PM
I think she took some "bendy" courses too..:eek:

StephX
08-24-2005, 03:27 PM
Professional wrestler?

Clarsax
08-24-2005, 04:09 PM
Well I'm sure once that guy emerges from his coma, he'll think twice about messing with her.

Owlman
08-24-2005, 04:58 PM
Women should also avoid getting drunk off their asses as well. That's pretty much what's behind all these disapearences on TV. Atleast have some friends with you.

Zimtsternchen
08-25-2005, 03:19 PM
I know- from experience, sadly- that a guy can get dangerous the moment you get afraid. Just like a dog, they smell it somehow. Now I know it sounds easy, don't be afraid,after all you don't contriol your emotions, but be confident. Those people do not expect resistance. Trust me, it works. and if you'd have to go out anyways, at least go out fighting...

I have been pushed pretty far before, and right now I'd have to say... I had to let go of everything that I hold dear... I'd feel sorry for the one who attacked me.

cybergal
08-25-2005, 04:45 PM
One of the best things you can do is ACTIVELY PAY ATTENTION. Be aware. Show that you are aware. My sister has been robbed several times and it's because she never pays attention to her surroundings and the people in it. She constantly walked with her head down looking at the ground with her posture in a tired looking position. She might has well had a sign on her that said "Hey, pick me! I'm vunerable and won't notice you so I can't identify you later to the police."

Everyone needs to know how to defend themselves, women, men, girls, boys, children. It doesn't matter who you are, what sex you are, or what age you are. There are predators out there that will fit into any category.

Texane
08-25-2005, 11:51 PM
pay attention seems to be the biggie.

Zimtsternchen
08-28-2005, 03:28 PM
My mom once had a strange guy walk up to her.. she gave him a mean look and showed him a fist and he went away.

Clarsax
08-30-2005, 10:01 AM
That's a good one. I'll have to remember that.