Do it yourself Media

[Sparky]

So that kimrb doesn't have to keep putting our focus back on the purpose of the cable ad, should we use a different thread for TV advertisements after the cable access ad?
This is about a media event, and it won't be newsworthy if it is a slick, polished ad... in primetime ... it would lose its special twist that will get us air time on network news.

This project makes it media event for fans to air a commercial created by fans. It is an evolution of Trekker's campaign using the media we have available today - internet and cable access/video equipment. What a difference of available media, 40 years after the letter writing of the trek fans !

So lets keep it simple, show it at 3 AM, but get the press kits out.

Of course it can morph into something else slick, paid for and at times when people will actually see it, but I agree with kimrb, now is not the time, when so many non-forum users don't even know FS was cancelled yet.

Right on and farout, and thanks kimrb, beowulf, YenRug (who suggested "I am Farscape" tagline on 9/25), and ALL of you creating this event. I am so incredibly impressed!
get the press kits out

[beowulf]

Originally posted by Sparky
should we use a different thread for TV advertisements after the cable access ad?

Just a minor correction: cable access is typically free access that cable companies agree to provide communities in return for the opportunity to sell their service within that community.

This is not a cable access ad. This is a paid commercial, but instead of going to the networks and/or specific cable channels, we are buying advertising time directly from the cable companies; the signal carriers.

Good luck with your studio effort! :aok:

[kimrb]

May I suggest we not create another thread. I know this is a long and laborous thread, but it is where all the information can be found and where fans are directed in the blurb on the front page. (which isn't there this morning...did we do a bad thing?) In addition, those who have followed the thread are used to coming here. Lets keep the pie in one pan if possible.

[kimrb]

Many of you may give a frell but I want to pass this information to those who follow this thread. A personal matter has come up that requires my total attention. I will be leaving for about a week and will be completely out of touch. You folks are doing just fine and will function very well in my absence. I just don't want you to think I have abandoned you. That could never happen. I am leaving late Friday nite and should be back by Halloween.

[jfranka]

Good luck.

See you soon.

[GeekedOut]

Good luck Kim and Take Care...we'll keep a spot warm for you!

[Tokeya]

I hope all goes well kim, and please be careful. See you soon.

[Tiriel]

Hey Kim,

first of all: Thanks again for clarifying, I'm starting to think that maybe anybody who wants to post suggestions should be required to first read the entire thread ducks to evade geriatrically challenged vegetables yeah, I know it's long and it's a pain, but it makes everything Kim (and other) have repeatedly stated very clear: What this is all about. It takes a lot of time and energy, to keep repeating the message... that's not to say I'm not toally impressed with all the engergy people show when they come here and want to help :) It's really awesome, but the focus must remain, not promoting FarScape, but making TV-History! Ooops, errr, getting the media to do the promotion for us! That's what I meant to say, really :D :D :D

Secondly, I just want to thank Kim again. I knew this was abrilliant idea from the moment I read it, but the magnitude didn't really get to me until I got some feedback from the person at Fox News. If we retain the focus and get organized with the press-kits this isn't going to be big, this is going to be TV-History :D Trust me on this one, I recognize it when it happens, Hell! I still have a piece of the Berlin Wall sitting at home, broken out with a pick borrowed from a total stranger, while the East German Army was getting the water-canons ready! (and boy were we happy it was only water-canons!) Anyways, just wanted to thank Kim again for this extraordinary suggestion and keeping people focused and Beowulf and DaMENACE for bearing the brunt of the work: As far as I'm concerned, you guys are heroes, one and all :D :D :D :D
And Kim, take care, I hope whatever is not a sad business :) And I hope your back is better (remember reading it in another thread), I've been out for most of this week with my back. No fun, particularly if you're addicted to computers ;)

OK, Beowulf, if the press-kit will NOT go out the first week of December (at which time I will be at a conference out of town), I'd be happy to help with the LA distribution. Has someone a list of who needs to be contacted? What criteria do we use to decide who should get a press-kit? LA has countless channels, shows, you have it. NY might beat us, but not by much. I doubt I will have the time to do the research (a number of talks and papers to finish and the conference preparation ahead of me, plus organizing a number of things centered around the con).
Creating press-kits, I'm afraid I'm outa luck... I can burn DVDs, but my CD-burner is ancient (I doubt it would be able to do vCDs) and not even currently connected to the system.

And in case there is a second round of commercials, I WILL have my camera ready this time :D And from Hispanic via African American and Asian to Chirokee(sp?)-Icelandic, we have the diversity covered, I would guess... plus one of us has a sound-stage and a few pages back a grip-posted, so we should be able to get you whatever you want :)

OK, that's my novel for the day ;)

Love and Peace and Great PR :)

Tiriel :eek:

[DaMENACE]

:eek:

I just wanted to clarify that there has been confusion between the press release for this commercial project "Do it Yourself Media" and the press kit the marketing team is working so hard to produce.

The two are not the same. Either the "Do it Yourself Media" project will send out its own press release specifically for this project or we will have the gracious help from the Marketing Team to do it for us.

The press kits that the marketing team is working on will encompass the entire campaign, and will include the commercial, but it is not strictly for this project.

Those press kits look like they will be finished after the commercial has aired. Our press releases will be sent BEFORE the commercial is aired. The two are not the same, so when someone says press kit, they may mean the marketing team press kit and not ours.


Denis DaMENACE

[waltersgirl]

(where fans are directed in the blurb on the front page. (which isn't there this morning...did we do a bad thing?)

good heavens, no. ;) the page is set up to put the most recent addition at the top and the other messages scroll back one. it's there in the archive when you click "latest news" on the menu on the left hand side.

[beowulf]

Originally posted by DaMENACE
:eek:

I just wanted to clarify that there has been confusion between the press release for this commercial project "Do it Yourself Media" and the press kit the marketing team is working so hard to produce.

This may in some part be my fault. I have been using press release and press kit interchangeably. Understand that I have been so focused on this project and this thread, that I was unaware that there is an "uber-press kit" project underway.

What this project is sending out is a single sheet of paper and a video CD. It needs to go out before the commercial so that the press receives it at roughly the same time as the ad is about to air.

DaMenace is working with the FWA to get priorities and responsibilities sorted out, so be patient. As soon as we have all the responsibilities assigned, then I'm sure we'll be looking for volunteers. Apologies for any confusion I may have inadvertently caused.

[waltersgirl]

beowulf,

i meant to tell you before, the commercial is excellent.

[Dominar of Action]

May not be any help, but I'll throw this out anyway:

For contact information, I seem to recall someone posting a link in the early days following the cancellation to a website used by lobbyists/activists that let you put in your zip code and it produced a listing of all the media contacts in the area. Does anyone else remember this, and would it help?

[Tiriel]

DoA: I haven't seen that thread, but that would be HUGELY useful! TREMENDOUSLY helpful! ENORMOUSLY helpful! (OK, I'm running out of words, but you're getting the idea :D)
Any chance you can find the thread again?

Love and Peace :)

Tiriel :eek:

[Gabriel]

Okay, I looked through my bookmarks and I have a few links to sites that will allow you to look up local media contact information that I will post, but these sites were designed for political activists and usually list just websites or allow you to send letters to the editor. Hopefully they will be useful.

http://www.INFOSEARCHinc.com/ - They have a service that will let you select from several thousand local newspapers and email their "letters to the editor" box - they also have a directory of TV/Radio station links that I glanced at and seemed somewhat thourough

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/dbq/media/ - This might be more of what your looking for, enter a zipcode, a state, the name of an organization or the name of an individual reporter, publisher etc and it will let you email them - this is the same database/service provided to all sorts of organizations, I found it through the NEA

http://capwiz.com/rr/home/ - this might be the same service as above in a slightly different format, but after a brief glance it seems to be more thourough and comprehensive

Hope this helps,
~Gabriel

[GeekedOut]

Rock on Gabriel! You beat me to the punch of offering to research!

[Tiriel]

Gabriel? Can I marry you?! Please?!?! :D :D :D

Thanks! This is unspeakably useful! I'll memorize the bloody url, just in case my computer dies spontanously on me!

The bad news is: there are 12 TV-stations, 14 radio stations and 34 newspapers ... and that doesn't cover any of the shows that might have an interest in reporting... sits flat on her butt Oh dear...

Love and Peace and Media-swamps ;)

Tiriel :eek:

[ctegan]

I love this idea! I've actually suggested it to some people as well.

Time to go check into advertising rates I guess on local cable! Very cool idea.

[Dominar of Action]

Tiriel -- this is the site I was thinking about:

e-Advocates (http://www.e-advocates.com/media_tools.html)

If you haven't already, you can also try the site run by Tracey Minor, who I believe is part of the media team here at SF. She's got contacts up for several major cities:

Save Farscape Pressroom (http://www.multiculturaladvantage.com/farscapepress/war_room/default.asp)

[atlantagirl]

Press Release Service Agencies

Has anybody ever used one of the press release services that's online? Such as this service? http://www.eworldwire.com/newswire.htm

I remember seeing information about this kind of business several years ago but have never used it myself so I don't know if it's the press release equivalent of mass URL submission to search engines or if it's something that might be really helpful to us.

[Tiriel]

Thanks DoA!! Funnily enough it's a different interface to the same service as Gabriel pointed me to! LOL! I actually DID memorize the URL ;)

It's bookmarked now on my computer and I recommend it to everybody who's looking for their area (as it appears to be US-wide).
Well, at last, there IS a good side to lobbyism :D :D :D

Hmmm, come to think of it, that's what we're currently doing, isn't it, lobbying?

Now THIS feels odd!

Love and Peace And Plentyful Thanks!

Tiriel :eek:

[akimbo]

Well if the press release and the "Marketing Team's Press Kit" are two different things (and I think its a shame and a redundant effort if they couldn't be coordinated), I'm willing to help with getting the word out for the "Do It Yourself Media" project as well.

I'm in the midwest. My CD burner is newer and I have software to burn VCDs, but I've never tried it before (but I'll give it a go if it will help). If you're looking for media contacts, you may be able to take advantage of the list the Marketing Team is putting together (or at least merge what the two groups come up with). Let's not reinvent the wheel with redundant research. The sites are great, I hope Scapeartist and Twich are keeping up with this thread.

If your date for airing is last week in November, I'm not sure how many people will get ads in their cities up and running by then for a coordinated effort. I would think we're running short on lead time (4 weeks) and would be better to go the broker way. But that's just one opinon.

[DaMENACE]

The budget proposal has been submitted to Scapeartist and Deneba. The Farscape Webmasters Association (FWA) is meeting on Sunday to decide on the proposal. We should know about funding early next week.

The proposal itself asks for $1000 in to pay for the commercial spots on cable. Only $787 is earmaked right now for 10 cities, but I wanted the wiggle room to add or change cities, so I proposed $1000. I know the majority of the community wants more cities, and I am for that too, but let us get this budget approved and get the rates for more cities and then we can expand if we want to.

For the shipping of the tapes I asked for $150. The shipping alone is about $60, but we need packaging material and I wanted money available for emergencies; i.e. lost or damaged tapes.

The press release will be handled by the marketing team. Scapeartist has agreed to head up that piece of this project. She will be responsible for getting out all the press releases before the commercial airs. Target commercial airdate is Nov 24 - Nov 29.

There is a lot of great information coming up on this thread and I want to thank all of you for your help in keeping this thing rolling. My goal has been to focus on the budget and proposal this week so I haven't responded to some of the questions and information that has been on the thread. If someone working on this hasn't responded to your question, please forgive us as we all are hunkering down to get this thing off the ground.

AIRING YOUR OWN COMMERCIAL
Kith and Loco (and maybe someone else) want to air their own commercial and I think that is great. Anyone that wants to book their own commercial spot that week is free to do so. We will make sure you have a BetaSP tape to do that. The tapes are not made yet, and it should be a couple weeks before any tapes will be sent. We'll decide who to contact for copies of the tape soon.

PRESS ADDRESSES
Scapeartist is the press release coordinator for this project. Contact her with all of the media addresses you have and ideas about obtaining those addresses. I know she will need help.

VCD's
Beowulf said he would burn VCD's, but we don't know how many VCD's we will need yet. Once we have that figured out we will coordinate people to burn those VCD's. Thanks all for your offer of help on that.

One more thing. Here is the list of cities currently targeted for this project. It may grow or change still, but I wanted you guys to have this in case you were planning something on your own:

Los Angeles
San Francisco
Seattle
Dallas
Chicago
Miami
Washington DC
New York
Boston
St. Louis

OK, this thread is getting our of control... mostly because we keep writing these books.

[Tiriel]

Thanks for the update DaMENACE! I emailed ScapeArtist with the link to that amazing site that helps you to identify relevant media-targets :)

We still have a month to go and most things look pretty much set. I will try to get as much video-footage of the LA con on Friday and Saturday (22nd and 23rd of November) then, so we can get it to Fox News in NY before it's too late. I hope if I give an early enough warning, the contact there will be able to edit stuff until that Monday.

Thanks again :)

Love and Peace :)

Tiriel :eek:

[kimrb]

I am leaving the cyberworld for about a week. I leave with full confidence in the team and each and every one of the Scaper community. I am filled with pride to see the enthusiasm as I watch the community come together for this project. This large extended family will win the attention of millions of people who have never even heard the word Farscape. New people will seek us out to find out more, wondering what TV show could be this good that these people would go to such lengths to save it. Your voice will become louder and your army larger. And that is something to take great pride in. It will be proof that simple ideas backed by the passonate work of true believers can become very powerful. As I leave for a short while, I do so with a warm and fuzzy place in my heart. Know, that in some small way, I am associated with these very special people. Keep your eye on the ball and I'll be back soon. Thank you.

[Dominar of Action]

*sniff* :cry2:

{{{Scaper Family}}}

[Chryse]

This email was received by a scaper who wanted to take out Movie theater ads. She asked Henson directly, and this their response from 9/25/02:

"Dear Dalequan (real name not used here):

Thank you for contacting us regarding Farscape. Everyone at The Jim Henson Company has been greatly touched by the outpouring of support from our fans with regard to this project as it is a true testament to both the admiration felt for the program and the loyalty of the show's fan base. We have received your request regarding use of the Farscape name, logo and images to create 35mm slides and regrettably, we are not able to grant your request.

Like you, we are hard at work in our efforts to continue the Farscape franchise and as such we must continue to respect and protect the copyright and trademark rights in the property. As importantly, we must also be sure to honor all facets of the arrangements and contractual relationships for the series, which involve obtaining the approval of several production companies, the on screen talent, our product licensees, etc.
Although it sounds complicated, the contributions of each of these partners have in their own way been an essential component of the show's success, and it would be wrong for us to act without them. As a result, although we wish it were otherwise, we cannot grant or imply authorization to make use of any of the elements of the series.

Once again, we wish we could assist you more in your efforts, but given the complexity of the issues involved, we simply cannot.
On behalf of everyone at The Jim Henson Company, thank you for your support and enthusiasm for Farscape.

Very Truly Yours,
The Jim Henson Company"

So, 1. any ad that features even the name of "Farscape" is at least going to get Dalequan in really hot water with Henson, whether or not she had anything to do with it because they already know about her.

2. The inference is that as fans, we do not have permission to use anything from Farscape, including the show's name, for any purpose.

=)
aileen

[loco2]

1... Dalequan doesn't have anything to worry about. I wrote a letter to Henson asking them what they were doing regarding the issue of getting Farscape back into production and they sent me the exact same message. It's a form letter apparently. A very nice, very carefully worded form letter.

2. Regarding the use of the Farscape name, I know of no law that states that a person can't look at a camera and say I love ____. If there was a legal problem with saying what we feel then we would have heard of it by now. And there would be a whole lot of angry people.

So buck up. Everything is going to be great. :D


Chris
imloco2

[beowulf]

Originally posted by Chryse
2. The inference is that as fans, we do not have permission to use anything from Farscape, including the show's name, for any purpose.


Given that this site's URL and motto have been plastered all over the news and the internet, and we're still here throwing it about, I think we're safe on the name thing. ;)

Best,

[unohoo]

What a great idea. I love it!

Have one little question, though. Should there be some text running at the bottom of the video that says something like "Ad made and paid for by FANS of Farscape. Watch Farscape this January on SciFi and fall in love as we did."? Or other words to convey a message. Or is it constructed such that someone seeing the ad is supposed to be left wondering what is Farscape? Or am I completely missing the whole point?

[Tiriel]

Hiya unohoo!

The point is to get the media to pick the spot up for us and then broadcast it explaining what its all about at the same time :)
So all the info necessary will be provided as a side-dish, so to speak :)

I love these kinda evil sideways, through the knees into the eye shots :D

Love and Peace :)

Tiriel :eek:

[akimbo]

We're electromagnetic candy for the budong media!

:rollin:

[beowulf]

Originally posted by Tiriel
I love these kinda evil sideways, through the knees into the eye shots :D


Hey! It's not evil! Just kind of...intensely devious. :D

[HoldenC]

If they don't have enough money to make the show, do you think they have money to burn to prosecute borderline copyright cases against people trying to save it?

This is a grassroots effort. If you ask, you will get carefully worded responses from a legal department. If you don't ask and go ahead and do it, and get Farscape back on the air, I guarantee the last thing you will have to worry about if Henson chasing you down for copyright infringement.

On top of that, can you imagine worse PR than a company going after its most loyal supporters? I think this is a non-issue.

Of course, i think the DCMA is the most ridiculous, unconstitutional piece of legislation ever to pass through the hallowed halls of our congress, but that doesn't keep entertainment companies from using it to impinge on creativity and ingenuity either, so what do I know. IANAL, but I am a lawyer's son...

-Holden

[jadeshand]

Holden. Henson has to send out that letter - in fact, I think there is an exact copy of it in the Copyright thread.

The ad thing is safe because that is basically and 'on the street' interview type thing.

I also agree that Henson would look foolish for jumping on fans who are trying their damnest to get the show back.

They are writing that letter to cover their...hmmm...butts ( and Brian does have a cute one!)

Say we put an ad in the paper with loads of photos, that's when we might be called down on it, but would they sue? Not in this lifetime. All we would get is another politely worded message about not using the photos...sorta like Dallascaper got for using film captures on his site.

Besides, we are a bunch of relatively poor Scapers. What are they going to get if they did sue? The lawyer fees would be something that wouldn't make it worth their while.

But if Sci-Fi protested (and they don't have copyrights), then Henson can shrug their collective shoulders and say, "We wrote them and stated our position."

So, no, I think hell would freeze over before they went after us for using the word "Farscape", but as to photos and such of the actors, it might be best to stir towards their request on that because of just what they said in the letter - there are too many people involved in having to give permission.

But we can work around it and still be affected, I think

[Gabriel]

I don't know much about copyright law but it seems like we have nothing to worry about.

As Henson says, there is a lot of outside copyrighted work that goes into Farscape so they can't put out a blanket statement saying we can use everything and they don't want to go to the trouble of reviewing EVERYTHING we use so they have to deny our request.

Lets say we go ahead anyway, what's the worst they can do? They could send us a politely worded "regretful" cease and desist order, but by the time we actually get it the commercials will have already aired and the press kits will have gone out. Why would Henson alienate their own fans? This is free, very positive, publicity for them and they'd have to be really stupid to turn it into negative publicity. It might be a good idea to talk to a lawyer, but it doesn't make any sense that we'll run into any problems.

Isn't there a saying like "its better to ask forgiveness than permission"?

[Tiriel]

Originally posted by beowulf
Hey! It's not evil! Just kind of...intensely devious. :D

Aha! grins That's how you learn new words! Devious :D :D :D

I LIKE devious :D

Love and Peace and, uhm, Deviousness :D

Tiriel :eek:

[beowulf]

Originally posted by Gabriel
Isn't there a saying like "its better to ask forgiveness than permission"?

Yeah, that's what I've been asking too, specifically about using the FS theme music in the commercial. However, there are extenuating circumstances in that the SFS/FWA organizers have previously publicly promised not to use copyrighted materials in this campaign without permission. So there's an "honor-thing" at play here too. I can't really blame people for trying t be honorable. Plus, we don't want to sink to the level of those who wouldn't honor their committment to a 5th season! :(

[ameliamo]

Hello everyone!

I hope I'm not veering too far from the current topic with a quick suggestion that was posted on the Corona Farscape board. If it's been discussed here before, I apologize...I haven't had time to read the entire thread. Anyway, here goes:

I LOVE the commercial as it currently is! In fact there is only one thing I can think of that would possibly make it better (and I admit, I didn't think of it - that would be Crichton at Corona...) wouldn't it be great if someone could take video cameras to the conventions and get shots of the cast saying "I am an actor and I am Farscape"?

Couldn't you see Ben or Gigi or Lani popping up in the middle of the footage of all the fans? What a hoot that would be! Don't know if there's anything contractually that would prevent them for doing it, but if nothing else, you'd think Virginia Hey wouldn't have a problem (and we'd love to see her with hair!).

I realize that all the details and materials may already be produced and ready to go, but this idea brought such a smile to my face that I couldn't help passing it along...

:) Ame

[ameliamo]

Well, I just went back and browsed some more of this thread and realized after reading one of beowoulf's posts that including the cast in the commercial might not really be in keeping with what the commercial is supposed to accomplish if it is really aimed at network execs.

You are absolutely right - they can see the cast all they want. They need to see US - the average every day fans, so while I still think Crichton's idea is loads of fun (and would attract new fans if that was the purpose), it may not hit the right mark in this situation. Oh well, sorry for the side track... back to the previous topic of the thread!

:) Ame

[beowulf]

Originally posted by ameliamo
Oh well, sorry for the side track... back to the previous topic of the thread!


Hey Ame,

No problem. That's what these boards are for: brainstorming. I actually did try to get some help from some people who have cast contacts to maybe get Claudia or Lani to do the voiceover at the end of the current commercial (it was going to be my big surprise for everyone), but no luck. Kim pointed out to me that that would take away the fan-focus, and in the end I agree. I also thought about maybe trying to get something at the Burbank Con when I'm there, something that I can use down the road, but the CreationEntertainment site lists a strict-sounding, "no cameras or other recording devices" rule, so I'm not sure how it could be done.

In the meantime, I encourage you and everyone else to continue reading back through this thread. There's a lot of good information here, including posts from some other fans who are talking about doing another commercial project with a different focus and slant in the Dec/Jan timeframe. Get involved. Make it happen.

Later,

[BritAngie]

Videotaping of any kind is normally frowned upon at any convention and alot of actors have it in their contracts for no videotaping.

Also..I know it's only a few minutes..but the actors at the cons will (If I know from previous experience) be working their butts off and may not have the time to do this anyway around all the other stuff arranged for them.

I think rather than push extra burden onto the Farscape cast who are probably at this moment trying very hard to find other jobs to pay their mortgages and get over the emotional shock of the show being treated as it is-we need to look to ourselves to carry this one off. :) As nice as the idea is..it doesn't gel with the aims of the grass roots ads.. We have been asked to carry the torch guys..lets not pass it back to the cast and crew just yet! :)

[DaMENACE]

It is official! The Farscape Webmasters Association has agreed to fund the initial run of the commercial in 10 cities in the amount not to exceed $1000.

The ten cities are:

Los Angeles
San Francisco
Seattle
Dallas
Chicago
Miami
Washington DC
New York
Boston
St. Louis

The current budget calls for one spot to run in each of these cities for a total of $787.

The estimated freight cost to mail one tape to each of these cities is $52.56.

Anyone that wants to see a copy of my spreadsheet on these totals can e-mail me at: deymann@fanboyz.com
I am more than happy to discuss the budget with anyone.


AIRING YOUR OWN COMMERCIAL
Now, I know some of you wanted to get tapes and air the commercials on your own. Anyone from the community is welcome to expand the scope of this commercial by airing it in their own community at their own cost. We will do our best to provide you with everything you need to get it done. We would ask that you stick with the scope of this initial project when airing the commercial.

Please book the commercial only with cable companies for now. Please book the commercial for the week of November 24-November 30 as that is when the press release will be targeting as the dates. If you want to send out press releases on your own, there should be some mechanism to get that done; details to follow. Otherwise, please provide Scapeartist with a few (not tons please) media contact addresses to add to the list.

To get a copy of the BetaSP, for now, please contact me. I will coordinate it for the moment, as the tapes are not complete yet and we don't know how many we are making. Somehow we will get you a tape. If it is not possible, it will be because of limited available tapes.

You are welcome to book your own commercial with your local cable company, or you can book it through our broker. If you want to book it through the broker contact me and I will help coordinate it. I don't want to bombard the broker for now.



Now that the funds exist, things are moving ahead full steam. I will be booking the ads next week. All of you wanting to book ads yourself should tell me by the end of this week so that we can try to have enough tapes. This is going to be so great!

[Tiriel]

Beowulf: I'm trying to round up Scapers willing to turn up in costumes and maybe organize a meeting Friday morning before the con (it looks like Creation is pretty harda$$ about the video thing). I'll try to put something up on this board as well some time later today. Fox News wanted something colourful (you know what the news are like nowadays :D) and I'm sure there will be plenty of opportunity to get footage you can use later, so bring your camera anyways (I'll keep you updated as to developments there):) I guess there is precious little the Ceation people can do about us filming people before the con and outside the premises (the cast themselves might be a considerably more difficult problem).

Secondly: It looks like the idea is already dead, but if you give me the exact words and approximate timing, I might be able to mimic Aeryns diction for a voice-over. But I would need at least a week, as I would have to get the various examples to listen to together first. Also a friend of mine here is a sound-engineer with his own studio, so he might be able to make changes to the sound-part of the spot quite easily (my sound hardware went AWOL on me, so I've only seen but not heard the spot yet! But I seem to remember that you mentioned having to make changes and how that could be painful to do... I would imagine it's easier with professional hard and software, but you might already have the entire setup :) grins I just like volunteering others :D)

Love and Peace and FarScape :)

Tiriel :eek:

[beowulf]

Originally posted by Tiriel
Beowulf: I'm trying to round up Scapers willing to turn up in costumes and maybe organize a meeting Friday morning before the con (it looks like Creation is pretty harda$$ about the video thing).

Hey Tiriel,

Thanks for the heads-up. Not sure yet whether I'm heading down Thurs night or early, early Friday morn. If I decide to arrive Thurs, I'll definitely be there Fri morn. If I head down on Fri, then I may not be there in time. Looking forward to meeting you and everyone else at the con though!

Secondly: It looks like the idea is already dead, but if you give me the exact words and approximate timing, I might be able to mimic Aeryns diction for a voice-over.

Well I was less interested in Claudia's diction than I was in the amazing quality of her voice, which can stop a charging full-grown male moose dead in its tracks. I'm really surprised we haven't heard her doing more commercial voiceover work.

At any rate, we're coming down to the wire now that the project is actually funded, so I'm reluctant to add any further dependencies to the schedule. Plus, next week is when I'll be shipping the final version off to Kim to dupe onto the beta sp tapes. But thanks for your kind offer.

Best,

[beowulf]

Originally posted by DaMENACE
To get a copy of the BetaSP, for now, please contact me. I will coordinate it for the moment, as the tapes are not complete yet and we don't know how many we are making. Somehow we will get you a tape. If it is not possible, it will be because of limited available tapes.

And I'd like to just insert a little reminder here: these tapes are being donated by Kim from his own production company, so please don't request a tape unless you are really, really 100% going to use it to air a commercial. These are professional, industry-standard tapes that won't play in any consumer VCR, so will do you no good as a keepsake.

That said, however, I am going to be putting together a keepsake DVD of all the commercials, plus a little something extra I've been working on ;), for our military FS friends in Baghram, Afghanistan. PKBarbie is going to be sending this to them in another care package in mid-November. If anyone else is interested in having a copy of this DVD (for the price of the media), I could probably be persuaded to bring copies to the Burbank Con. Let me know if you're interested.

Best,

[Stargate2077]

What do you guys think about contacting Time Warner to place the ad using their cable advertising service? I have the websites of the various cable branches. All I have to do is post the contact information of the person, who is in charge of Time Warner Cable Advertising in that area. From what I can tell, there are 23 seperate Time Warner Cable divisions in the USA.

[Tiriel]

OK, I'm going to raise the question in this thread, simply because so many people read it.
The main idea behind airing the commercial is to get media-attention and kinda let them do the work for us.
Now, would it be good to try to keep the ball rolling once we've achieved that? As soon as the commercial airs and the media start reporting about it, there will be a huge interest in the entire campaign. So I'm thinking it might be good to have a number of further actions lined up, that will allow them to maintain interest. The longer we can keep the main media interested the further the message should spread (some reporters might not think it's worth it until they see others report at which point they might jump on the wagon, if there is still something to report on).
I know that people have been planning on charity stuff and sending a care-package to Afghanistan, I haven't had the time to follow all of these things, but I would imagine that getting the timing right on those might get them a lot more publicity than they might otherwise get and keep the ball rolling.
If this turns out as big as I suspect it might, we will have trouble to create that much interest again (the novelty factor is always ever so crucial).
Anyways, these thoughts are not very well organized as yet (I don't seem to find time to even think anymore!) but I thought I raise it, before we go out there guns blazing :D

What do other people think?

Love and Peace and Great PR :)

Tiriel :eek:

[kimrb]

Just a note to let you know I have returned to the cyberworld and the warm/fuzzy place known as saveFS. It was hard to be away and out of touch. I just finished reading my many emails and PMs and am delighted (doing the naked antler dance) about the funding and how well the press problems are being handled. Once you guys get started it is best to stand aside 'cause the train is coming thru. My hardiest congrats to the whole team. You folks are going to make this happen and I wish I could be a fly on everyone's wall when you see the project come to life on the national news media. If I know anything, it will give you a small idea of why I do what I do. Ya just can't beat the feeling! Let me catch up on a few items if I may....
BETA SP COPIES: Yes, I will gladly make your copies for you at my expense. I have my own 'easy-bake oven' and can slam out copies easily. I buy the tapes cheap, relatively. They will only be 5-minute tapes and so this shouldn't be too expesive at all. I may have to manage my beer budget closer for a while but no big deal. Beowulf is correct, this is a pro format and you can't play them in any machine you would have. So, please remember, BetaSP copies are for air only.
MORE MARKETS: DeMeance is correct in staying in the 10 we have chosen. If the funding allows a small expansion into other big markets, then I see no problem. That said, if you want to go it alone in your market please step right up. It is amazingly inexpesive to do this in each market. Just stick with the plan and let us know what you need. We will do what it takes to get you a BetaSP and press release/video.
KEEPING THE MOJO WORKING: Tiriel is correct. It is to our advantage to catch AND HOLD the media's attention. Once the media has their eye in our direction, everything done will have a greater chance of being picked up. You just have to keep the media informed of what you are up to.

OK, I'm really worn out from a tough few days and 10 hour drive home so enough for tonite. From here to the history books. Keep it up.

[Vianney]

Kim said:

There is nothing real about TV.

But that Claudia Black lady sure can make you believe in it.... oh boy.

Anyway, i've been reading this thread for a whole day now and NOT finished yet, but it seems that the last couple of pages have been a bit less focused on the current project, and more about funding ad campains. Which worries Kim, who sure has some other things to do in his life than posting here for the 20th time what the end-goal is, and how the plan perfectly covers it. To his credit, this hasn't moved by a yota since the very first message of this thread, and is still as brilliant a concept by its simplicity.

So, for all people talking about raising big bucks and paying for commercial time on Sci-Fi, or new -great- commercial ideas, i say: Hell ya!
Of course we'll need this, and sooner than later (if you want people to watch the first three seasons and a half BEFORE the January fireworks). I'll personally be more than happy if I can get a chance to participate in such a project. But we should talk about THESE in another thread, to keep the confusion to a minimum here. For all I know, there are already such new threads flourishing accross the board; haven't had the time to check yet, i'm still catching up this one.. 'One evil at a time, that's the best i can do' ;)

So long fellow scapers,

Vianney

[DaMENACE]

We received some more rates in the top 20 markets and since we had room in the budget I added 5 more cities to our commercial run. Both Kith and loco2 have agreed to run the commercial in their local market on their own so that brings us to 17!

Here are the cities running the commercial now:

Los Angeles
San Francisco
Seattle
Dallas
Chicago
Miami
Washington DC
New York
Boston
St. Louis
Houston
Phoenix
Atlanta
Denver
Philadelphia, PA

San Diego (booked by Kith)
Lexington, KY (booked by loco2)

Remember to tell me by Friday if you are planning on airing your own commercial so that we can be sure to get you a tape.

BUDGET: The new total for airing the commercials is $882. Estimated shipping is $89.65

Take care all,

Denis DaMENACE

[atlantagirl]

Fabulous news!!

I was trying to figure out how to run the spot in Atlanta myself, but I'm stretched pretty thin at the moment with various projects. Is anyone taking care of the Atlanta press release aspect? I'm torn between really wanting to help and REALLY not having time to take on another project, but I would like to know the status of the project in Atlanta.

[Dominar of Action]

DaMenace -- do you have more rates for cities that are not on the list (presumably for budget reasons)?

[DaMENACE]

Originally posted by Dominar of Action
DaMenace -- do you have more rates for cities that are not on the list (presumably for budget reasons)?

I do! I don't have it with me at the moment, but send me an e-mail at: deymann@fanboyz.com

...and I will e-mail you a copy of the budget spreadsheet. It has all of the costs on it.

Denis DaMENACE

[tcpike]

I'm new to this thread. Saw the announcement by Webmaster Assn. of the great ad you've created and thought I'd check out your site. In looking at the list of the top markets to be targeted, Chicago is the nearest midwest city listed to my area. A lot of midwest cities (Iowa to Minneapolis, MN to Bismarck, ND) get the Chicago station WGN through their local cable companies. Would the network you are targeting happen to be that one? If so, please let me know airing info, and I'll begin passing the word around the Midwestscapers chat site. Thanks! And, again, great work you're doing here!

[DaMENACE]

Originally posted by tcpike
I'm new to this thread. Saw the announcement by Webmaster Assn. of the great ad you've created and thought I'd check out your site. In looking at the list of the top markets to be targeted, Chicago is the nearest midwest city listed to my area. A lot of midwest cities (Iowa to Minneapolis, MN to Bismarck, ND) get the Chicago station WGN through their local cable companies. Would the network you are targeting happen to be that one? If so, please let me know airing info, and I'll begin passing the word around the Midwestscapers chat site. Thanks! And, again, great work you're doing here!

tcpike,

For the money we are paying in Chicago, we will be on between 12m-5am on one of these channels: Food, Hallmark, CNN Headline & Travel Channel.

Not that glamorous, but that is not the goal of this project.

Denis DaMENACE

[DaMENACE]

I'm getting lots of requests for when and where the ads will run, and I really don't have that all compiled yet. I will have a better idea next week when the ads are booked, and I will create a list of possible times and channels for each city. In most cases, you are going to be hard pressed to find the actual spots locally.

[tcpike]

DaMENACE--Thanks for your prompt reply. Guess maybe I was on the wrong track? As I read your list, I was thinking Chicago TV network (i.e. WGN) and not Chicago cable company provider (Food, Hallmark, CNN Headline, etc.). Or, have I misunderstood that, too. No matter...I think it would be wiser for me to go back to the original thread of all this and begin reading before I waste any more of your time. Anyway...don't knock the midnight to 5 am slot as being non-glamourous! There are many "glamorous" night owls and insomniacs out there who will see the ad and marvel! Keep up the great work!

[beowulf]

Originally posted by tcpike
Anyway...don't knock the midnight to 5 am slot as being non-glamourous! There are many "glamorous" night owls and insomniacs out there who will see the ad and marvel! Keep up the great work!

We're hoping that the best time/place for you to see the ad will be on your local 6 o'clock news, Entertainment Tonight, and so on. If all goes according to plan, that's what you should be watching instead of the all-night cable. :aok:

Best,

[DaMENACE]

**My e-mail is back, so no need to PM me!**

We have now moved to booking the commercials! I have begun the process with broker. I will be booking the spots officially for the week of November 25-December 1.

The cities being booked are:

(THESE BELOW CITIES ARE BING BOOKED BY THE FARSCAPE WEBMASTER'S ASSOCIATION)
Los Angeles
San Francisco
Seattle
Dallas
Chicago
Miami
Washington DC
New York
Boston
St. Louis
Houston
Phoenix
Atlanta
Denver
Philadelphia, PA


(BEING BOOKED BY A CONTRIBUTOR FROM THIS COMMUNITY)
Cleveland

(BEING BOOKED BY A CONTRIBUTOR FROM THIS COMMUNITY)
Tampa
Detroit
Minneapolis
Pittsburg
Salt Lake City

(BEING BOOKED BY A CONTRIBUTOR FROM THIS COMMUNITY)
San Diego

(BEING BOOKED BY A CONTRIBUTOR FROM THIS COMMUNITY)
Lexington, KY


So, we are in 23 markets! That is great, but we are in DESPERATE need of help with media addresses. PM me if you are able to help with that end of this project. I will probably end up assigning you a city that we do not have covered. Anyone that is buying their own commercial, I also need your help with getting the media addresses for your cities. We are short manpower and paying for a commercial that gets zero press releases is a waste of money.

Everyone that is paying for the commercial on their own; I will be receiving price quotes from the broker that I can fax to you if you would like. I will take care of getting the tapes sent to your local cable stations. Money will need to be in the form of Money Order or Cashier's Check.... that was a request from the broker. I will have you send the money direct to the broker.

We are ready to rock-n-roll!

Denis DaMENACE

[Tiriel]

Heya!

I'm not sure if I ever brought it up clearly, so let me try :)

I'm sure you are aware of the cross-talk with the contact person at Fox News and how she was looking for additional footage. Now I didn't get all that much on Halloween either (we weren't quite enough people to make it impressive, I'm sure she can take cuts form our gathering, but there should also be something will larger numbers). So my hope is the Burbank con, which I was told is sold out, meaning we'll be seeing around 3,000 Scapers. With the costume contest we should get great footage out of that, but the con is from the 22nd to the 24th and the costume contest is usually the last day (or so I was told), which means we won't get the footage to Fox News in time to get mixed with the press-release and send out as a more or less doen story (making it that much easier for Fox Affiliates to pick it up without putting too much of their own effort into it).

So my question is: Is there a chance to push the airing back a week, to allow enough time for at least the Burbank stuff to get to Fox and be edited and ready to go?

If this is too late, I appologize :) I brought it up once before, but I'm not sure if I made my self really clear that time ;) I think it might be a great reinforcement loop to time these two things, but it's really up to you guys, 'cause you did all the work!

Love and Peace and Great Publicity :)

Tiriel :eek:

beowulf: Sorry! Still haven't heard anything! You'll be the first to know :)

PS: 23 frelling markets!!!! This is so frelling awesome!!! :D :D :D

[Dominar of Action]

Question: for both the FWA markets and the additional markets, are there any plans for follow-up telephone calls to the press, etc.? Or is that just for event planning?

Also, how soon do you need the media contact list?

[jadeshand]

the cost is running in a single city - like the single contributors are doing? I'd love to see Houston added to that list and would work toward that myself if it was in my affordable range.

[jadeshand]

the first time - sorry! :(

[Dominar of Action]

Additional question: Someone got news services like Reuters, AP, etc. covered?

[DaMENACE]

Originally posted by Tiriel

So my question is: Is there a chance to push the airing back a week, to allow enough time for at least the Burbank stuff to get to Fox and be edited and ready to go?

If this is too late, I appologize :) I brought it up once before, but I'm not sure if I made my self really clear that time ;) I think it might be a great reinforcement loop to time these two things, but it's really up to you guys, 'cause you did all the work!


I hear you 100% on this... I am mixed. The goal was to air the commercial during the November Sweeps time and at a time when the news is slow. I would like the news channels to be able to air footage of the con in Burbank, but it isn't necessary to the goal of the campaign.

I am inclined to keep the dates the way they are for a couple of reasons. The first is that the press releases really need to be mailed out 1 week before the air date, and we have been working under a timeline with that in mind. I just hate changing plans once they are started. The second is that the goal is for the commercial to be on the air; I'd hate for footage of the con to replace the commercial if the editors decided they had limited time to show footage. It could undermine our goal.

That is my sole opinion, and I am completely open to hear other opinions. I do not get final say in this, and if the majority of volunteers on this project think we should wait, then we will wait.

Thank you so much for your support of this project Tiriel, and your work on the campaign has been outstanding. If anyone wants to add thoughts, please do so...

Denis DaMENACE

[beowulf]

Originally posted by Dominar of Action
Also, how soon do you need the media contact list?

Yesterday. Don't mean to be flippant, but this is really important and we need action now. Thanks!

[atlantagirl]

I agree with DaMenace that adding Con footage to the package might detract from the message of the commercial.

I also think that part of the appeal of the commercial and the whole commercial campaign is that these are real people. I think that footage of costumed fans, as fun as that might be, could actually be detrimental. It takes time to get to that point. We want the average person on the street to know that Farscape is a show that they will enjoy, and not to think that it's only for die-hard sci-fi fans and people who enjoy dressing up.

[DaMENACE]

Originally posted by Dominar of Action
Question: for both the FWA markets and the additional markets, are there any plans for follow-up telephone calls to the press, etc.? Or is that just for event planning?

Not that I know of... There should be a telephone contact for the reporters to contact from our team that will be able to field questions. Are you voluteering for that duty? :P

Also, how soon do you need the media contact list? [/B]

ASAP. We need to have a good managable number of contacts for each market to mail the press releases no later than November 18th. Sooner would be much, much better.

Twich from the marketing team has been coordinating the gathering of addresses. She is getting back to me with the markets that need the most attention. Once we know that, we will need volunteers to chase down thos addresses. I know San Diego is covered... 1 down 22 to go. Seriously, I will try to organize it so that volunteers can work on as few markets as possible.

As for the major media outlets, Twich also has those. I will look them over when I get them and if we need to get more contacts for the national list we will chase them down.

Denis DaMENACE

[Tiriel]

DaMENACE: I hear ya! I didn't really think of that, but you're probably right, not wanting to take a risk there. Personally I think that the commercial will be THE news, everything else would just be supporting material! But I might be biased, I still maintain that this is TV-History in the making!

Let's keep it apart then and hope we get the coverage over to Fox while it's still hot enough to ride the tail of the commercial!

In that case: Who do I give the contact info for the lady at Fox to? Twitch? I'll shoot of an email now, to make sure she's on the list of people who get the press-release!

And DaMENACE: I have done very little compared to what you guys pulled off! Way to go!

BTW: Who is spear-heading the Second Wave?
And whose name can I put down as contact for this one (this is for the Current Projects Page :))?

Thanks so much! Can't wait :D :D :D

Love and Peace and Hope :)

Tiriel :eek:

[beowulf]

Originally posted by DaMENACE
The second is that the goal is for the commercial to be on the air; I'd hate for footage of the con to replace the commercial if the editors decided they had limited time to show footage. It could undermine our goal.

This is an excellent point, and ties in well with how I feel about it. Let me preface what I'm about to say with, I love costuming! But I get it. Everyone here gets it. However, I don't think the average person who enjoys an occasional science fiction movie or show, gets it.

The problem I see is that when most people think of hardcore science fiction fans, they think of pimple-faced nerds who memorize the blueprints to the Enterprise and run around at conventions in Mr. Spock ears. Why perpetuate that stereotype? This is why I didn't use people in costume and wearing a lot of FS garb in the comercial spots. We want people to take this seriously and be intrigued enough to maybe checkout the show. We also want to hopefully influence mind-share at any network considering an attempt to acquire the show; potential advertising income brought in by an affluent audience will do that, not costumes.

When this thing hits the news the last week of November, what I want to see when the story ends and the camera returns to the news anchors, are those anchors saying, "wow, that must be a really good show!" Not a snicker and then, "did you see that fat guy with the tentacles on his head?"

Best,

[DaMENACE]

For now, I am leading the charge on the 2nd wave. At the very least I am willing to book the commercials in January.

Check out the "Do it Yourself Promoting - Commercial 2nd Wave" thread. That is where we will be doing our planning for that campaign.

[DaMENACE]

And away we go.....!

We have final rate quotes from the broker and a complete list of addresses for all the checks and tapes. The request has been sent to the Farscape Webmasters Association, as well as individual contributors, to mail out checks immediately. The commercials are not booked until the money is received.

We have 24... yes count them... 24 markets we are booking! Whew! And the winners are:

Tampa
Detroit
Minneapolis
Pittsburg
Salt Lake City
Atlanta
San Francisco
Boston
Chicago
Dallas
Denver
Hartford
Houston
Los Angeles
Miami
New York
Philadelphia
Phoenix
Seattle
St. Louis
Washington DC
Cleveland
San Diego
Lexington, KY

We are not out of the woods yet my fine friends. We still have a press release to uh... release. But this is a huge start. I'm going to go take a nap.

Denis DaMENACE

[beowulf]

Originally posted by DaMENACE
We are not out of the woods yet my fine friends. We still have a press release to uh... release. But this is a huge start. I'm going to go take a nap.

Can I get a big HELL YEAH! for Denis?

[akimbo]

Hell Yeah!

[Tiriel]

HELL YEAH!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D

Love and Peace and PR!!!

Tiriel :eek:

[Truemyth]

HELL YEAH ! ! !
:love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

:joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy:

[loco2]

HELL YEAH!!!!!!

You guys are my hero's *g*



Chris
imloco2
how 'bout you?

[sandinafh]

I have been a regular to the watchfarscape.com (Save Farscape) website on at least a bi-weekly basis now. I keep checking back to see how things are going. This site gives me hope that we can in fact save the show. I have been sending emails and writing letters to the networks and advertisers like mad! I'm ready to do more, whatever it takes!

I can offer this:

I have great skills when it comes to graphics and creating/enhancing/altering images (using Photo Shop). I would be happy to put my artistic talents to use if they are needed!

I have worked in PR before, so I've got some background with that, and I'm an Administrative Assistant for Williams-Sonoma, Inc.

I think the commercial is great, by the way. If I had the equipment I'd send in my own video to add to it. Just for kicks about 4 months ago I took an image of John & Aeryn and altered it to look like they were posing for a West Elm (that's a catalog my company offers) ad. (see attachment)

Please let me know if there is anything I can do! I'll make calls or help design stuff, or whatever!

[sandinafh]

AAAAARRRRGGGHHH!

The whole picture didn't make it!!!

I'll try again!

[nhfearme]

Kudos all around on this!

Fantastic concept and execution. Real peeps telling it like it is.

I'll go further to say that it maintains the grassroots approach. It's us in our raw form: :love: Loving FarScape!

Whatdoyousay we break it down to each peep at commercial breaks instead of the whole wad playing? The blurbs by themselves, I believe, would implement the takeaway close exquisitely :D to keep the watcher watching, wanting more; to see these intriguing people who are FarScape!

[Chiana]

Real peeps telling it like it is.


what's a "peep"? do you mean, people?

[kimrb]

Just wanted you all to know that I have not disappeared, just recovering from surgery. I have been lurking and communicating with Beowulf, DeMeance and Scapeartist as the project moves forward. You have done a wonderful job and we're just a press release from making TV history. We have been working on the press release and are still tweeking. I'm sure the release will be done very shortly. All the BetaSP copies have been made and went out Airborne Express/overnight to Beowulf this morning, so thats a done deal. Just a reminder, if you can aid in press contact info for any of the targeted markets please step up and help us out. Contacting the press with a kickass release is the soul of this project so please let the savefarscape.com media people in on any and all press contacts you can muster. I'm off to work on the press release. Hold the torch high Scapers.

[Dominar of Action]

Great to hear from you, kimrb! Hope your recovery goes well. :)

[nhfearme]

Wb Kimrb!

Hi all :hi:

:-)

One good idea and the determination to carry it through to produce this grassroots video will make *certain* suits *pea green* with envy :D I love the main Ad:

http://homepage.mac.com/beowulf/iamfarscape/iMovieTheater41.html

But Stan Young at the *nunnery* in is *my favorite*:

http://homepage.mac.com/beowulf/farswitch/iMovieTheater48.html


I know it's too late to help with this batch... but if we need to do more may I suggest: (I apologize ahead if it's off the wall, and I have a tendency to ramble.) :spin:

1) I for one would love to see even jostled Internet feed from those great peeps in Afghanistan that participated in the 5th of FarScape with us.

2) Tiriel has a vid of Ben Browder saying "I am FarScape" If it is legally possible ... I would also :love: love to see that put up.

3) Keep making these or make them available to whatever channel wants to run them :)

4) Run the voice track on Radio.

5) Take some close-up stills for poster & card handouts.

6) Once the Ads start running peeps may call the stations wanting to appear in a commercial ;) We could use that to cause a buzz. Maybe make a big deal out of all the videos people are sending in or taking to their local stations to run :aok: The down side would be quality control. But even a dark goth in low light saying "I am FarScape" can gain the media attention we crave.
______

Oh, and Chiana? Here's lookin at you peep! :lol

Sleepy go night night :O

[nhfearme]

Ashes to ashes
Dust to dust

Life is to short
Watch FarScape we must!

[nhfearme]

...

[beowulf]

Originally posted by kimrb
Just a reminder, if you can aid in press contact info for any of the targeted markets please step up and help us out. Contacting the press with a kickass release is the soul of this project so please let the savefarscape.com media people in on any and all press contacts you can muster.

I'll volunteer a big HELL YEAH! on that. I just finished producing 200 video CD's of the main commercial followed by all 22 of the individual web spots. These CD's will go out with the press release, and if you're going to see any of this on primetime TV, it's going to be because of the release and the CD. But this is only if we have addresses for press contacts!

So if you live in one of the target cities and haven't yet contributed any research on press addresses, then take a minute to list all the major TV stations and news services in your area, and find out if the PR folks have them on file. Thanks!

[beowulf]

Originally posted by nhfearme
I know it's too late to help with this batch... but if we need to do more may I suggest: (I apologize ahead if it's off the wall, and I have a tendency to ramble.) :spin:

1) I for one would love to see an internet feed from those great peeps in Afghanistan that participated in the 5th of FarScape with us.

Hey,

Thanks for the kind words and encouragement. Yes, I'd like to see video from "the front" too, but haven't so far.... :(

2) Tiriel has a vid of Ben Browder saying "I am FarScape" If it is legally possible ... I would also :love: love to see that put up.

Tiriel and I are talking. There are issues. Stay tuned.

3) Keep making these or make them available to whatever channel wants to run them :)

I still have a quite a few folks I just haven't had the time and energy to get to. I also had a video to finish for the Burbank Convention video contest. So I'm tired and need a breather. But perhaps after Burbank I'll have renewed energy to start editing again.

As for making them available to whatever channel wants them, well, there's two ways for that to happen:
[list=1]
the video CD that will accompany the press release will contain the commercial followed by all 22 Farswitch spots.
the media will be able to come to savefarscape.com to find them. I've requested that WDSection create space for the vids on this server, and hopefully this and a link on the front page will be in place by the time the commercial airs.
[/list=1]

Once again, stay tuned.

4) Run the voice track on Radio.

5) Take some close-up stills for poster & card handouts.

6) Once the Ads start running peeps may call the stations wanting to appear in a commercial ;) We could use that to cause a buzz. Maybe make a big deal out of all the videos people are sending in or taking to their local stations to run :aok: The down side would be quality control. But even a dark goth in low light saying "I am FarScape" can gain the media attention we crave.

All great ideas. You might run the radio idea past the "Guerrilla Radio" folks, and the printout idea past the FWA PR folks. As for making more vids, it's not something I can even fathom right now! :eek: However, DaMenace is already planning another run for January (checkout the, "Do it Yourself Promoting - Commercial 2nd Wave," thread for more info), so who knows what I'll be up for by then? ;) Preferably though, I'd like to see some of other Scapers take some of the great ideas that have been posted here and run with them. No reason I should get all the glory, and besides, variety is the spice of life! :aok:

Best,

[akimbo]

Originally posted by beowulf
I'll volunteer a big HELL YEAH! on that. I just finished producing 200 video CD's of the main commercial followed by all 22 of the individual web spots. These CD's will go out with the press release, and if you're going to see any of this on primetime TV, it's going to be because of the release and the CD. But this is only if we have addresses for press contacts!

So if you live in one of the target cities and haven't yet contributed any research on press addresses, then take a minute to list all the major TV stations and news services in your area, and find out if the PR folks have them on file. Thanks!

200 video CDs - wow you must be tired. That is awesome Beowulf.

I've done my research duty for a couple of cities.....I hope you have all you need. If not, I'm willing to take a crack at other cities. It will of course be internet only research, but better than nothing.

Akimbo

[beowulf]

Originally posted by akimbo
200 video CDs - wow you must be tired. That is awesome Beowulf.

Luckily, I found access to a duper. Applying the labels by hand sucks though....

I've done my research duty for a couple of cities.....I hope you have all you need. If not, I'm willing to take a crack at other cities. It will of course be internet only research, but better than nothing.

Awesome! I guess you coordinated with Twich then? We're waiting to hear from her tonight or tomorrow. Hopefully the news will be good. And if not, I'm sure you'll all be hearing a loud call-to-arms! ;)

Best,

[akimbo]

Originally posted by beowulf
Awesome! I guess you coordinated with Twich then? We're waiting to hear from her tonight or tomorrow. Hopefully the news will be good. And if not, I'm sure you'll all be hearing a loud call-to-arms! ;)


Both Twich and Damenace had my data by last Friday - though it was only two cities. I think she called for everyone's data by the end of last week. So you should be getting something soon. I'll be waiting to fill any holes you have tomorrow. Can I get a Hell Yeah!

[Deneba]

Checks were copied, faxed and dropped at the post office to mail to their respective recipients today to pay for airtime. On our way, guys!

D. :aok:

[Dominar of Action]

So if you live in one of the target cities and haven't yet contributed any research on press addresses, then take a minute to list all the major TV stations and news services in your area, and find out if the PR folks have them on file. Thanks!To avoid duplicating work, just let us know here what cities still need coverage and I'm sure you'll get all the help you need. :D

[sandinafh]

OKAY, HERE'S MINE

[beowulf]

Originally posted by akimbo
Can I get a Hell Yeah!

Okay. And this one's also for Deneba's checks and for Sandinafh's very nice "I Am Farscape" graphic! :D

HELL YEAH!

[Chiana]

Here's lookin at you peep!


so that would be yes, then to by peep, you mean people?

[BritAngie]

peeps is people.It's English slang. :)

[nhfearme]

Oh! Please sandinafh!

Let's do this thang! :jedi:

I've started a new thread over in Graphics :aok:

http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5129

[nhfearme]

I didn't mean to ignore you Chiana. I thought I answered you earlier...

Originally posted by Chiana
so that would be yes, then to by peep, you mean people?

ty BritAngie :rainbow:
__

Hell Yeah!

beowulf

and big time Congratulations!

:aok:

[iflywormholes]

First of all I want to say wonderful job to all those who've been involved in this project. I *finally* got to see the commercial a few days ago when my new laptop arrived (from Dell of course :) ). Unfortunately Honolulu isn't a major market, but I can't wait to see all the results. :rollin:


Originally posted by nhfearme
1) I for one would love to see even jostled Internet feed from those great peeps in Afghanistan that participated in the 5th of FarScape with us.
Well, my cousin is the one who organized the rally over there. They are all a bit overwhelmed with the response from their efforts, but I can ask if they are able to make a recording. I think one of the soldiers has a digital camera and don't most digital cameras include the option of recording mpgs? If Beowulf or others can contact me with what is needed I'll pass along the suggestion and see if it is possible. They should be getting their first care package from the multitude of kind scapers in the next two weeks so maybe they can work that in too. And they would love any excuse to have another rally! :us: Anyway, just contact me and let me know what is needed.

Again, great work all and can't wait to see the commercial on the news. If there is anything I can do out in the middle of the pacific just let me know.

Hope, that's what keeps me going.

-iflywormholes
barrett@ifa.hawaii.edu

[DenAstrogeek]

This 350-post thread is a little daunting. (!!!) Perhaps if help is still needed finding media/press information for some of the cities, a new thread could be started to coordinate getting that help?

[tcpike]

Would someone in this thread let me know if you still need media/press info for Minneapolis...I could probably pull some info together for you by tomorrow. My job workload is a bit on the heavy side right now, but I'd see what I could do. Let me know asap.

[DaMENACE]

Thanks to all that have offered or is interested in helping with the press contacts. At this time we have only one city that we know of that needs media contacts and that is Hartford, CT. If anyone wants to do Hartford media contacts, please send me an e-mail: deymann@fanboyz.com

Here is a quick update on the commercial status. We have tapes now and we have addresses to send all the tapes to. We are in great, great shape on that end of things.

All cities have been paid for accept for one, and that is coming shortly so there should be no issues on that end of things.

The actual city count is 23, not 24 as I previously posted. San Diego has two cable nets and I shouldn't have counted them twice.

We are also planning a Sunday 11/17 Bay Area press release stuffing party. If you want to go to that, e-mail me.

Yes, this thread is daunting. I am looking forward to the thread we create that talks about all the press we are getting. : )

Denis DaMENACE

[DenAstrogeek]

Will it air in St Paul too or just on the Mnpls cable stations?

[kimrb]

It wasn't so very long ago that some idiot posted the idea of making and airring your own TV commercial in an effort to save FS. Look where we are now, right on the edge of making television history. Without the loyal following and passion shared by Scapers this project would have never even began. I just want to drop a big "HELL YEAH!" on this amazing group of fans. To each and everyone of you who donated funds, helped with ideas, put the spot together, researched the rates and offered words of encouragement and support. We are so close you can smell it gang. I never imagined you could not do this. So, the powder is down the barrel, the bullet has been rammed home and the primer set. We've pulled back the hammer and selected our targets. Now my fellow Scapers all that is left is to pull the trigger. Go get your earplugs cause this is going to be a big bang! HELL YEAH!!!:aok:

[tcpike]

I know you mentioned in an earlier post that the ads were going to be during the week of Nov.25. Is there any way for you to let us know when these will be shown? (I guess, I'm asking as a Mpls. viewer who wants to spread the info around.):aok:

[nhfearme]

:joy: Yippie!

This is fabulous iflywormholes!

If Beowulf or others can contact me with what is needed I'll pass along the suggestion and see if it is possible.

I hope someone answers this soon! Frell, we may not get anything back from them for months!

I heard one of the foreign correspondants for CNN say once that she just uses her cell phone and the person on the other end takes care of the tech to record the image. She says it's a little shakey :scramble: but otherwise it would take weeks to get the story out. ... Just an idea. Do any of the toops have a cell phone that can do that?

Or even the tape. Tiriel said she used ordinary video to record Ben and still she is able to load it on her computer and cd for playback...

so technically they could just record it, upload it onto a site and we could download it! :beer: You mean they don't have a webcam??

If it is a matter of time I'd say just do the thing on what they have and exchange it when the care package arrives or just mail it (Do they have mail in Afganistan?)

Another way Newscasters sometimes do it is have a still shot of the person speaking and just use audio. That way a regular phone or internet feed would do it.

Then there is the thread of writing "I am FarScape" on a pic of the person. Could you emagine those sitting in stacks on our table in Burbank and NY cons? :D Maybe even posed on a flack gun or in their jeep?

Ramble...ramble...ramble...ramble...ramble...rambl e...ramble...ramble...ramble...ramble...ramble...r amble...ramble...rambl

beowulf,

Guerrilla Radio? :eh:

Say, what do you think of making the DVD of the commercial blurbs available at our ebay account?

Were all these peeps on the street? Any of them in their office or a bathtub :ewink: My fav is a guy leaning into work on his car engine. ... tee hee Or have them pose like those old Gene Harlow photos... Just for fun (There I go thinking stills again)
___

tcpike!

Fabulous to tell all your friends when the commercials start to air... in fact maybe I'll even design handouts for it! ... create a buzz

Hell Yeah!

Sleepy, go night night

[DaMENACE]

According to my paperwork Minneapolis and St. Paul will both be covered as it is considered the "Twin Cities". tcpike, Minneapolis is covered for contacts... thanks for the offer!

I will post the when's and where's next week. The official airdates for all of these will be 11/25-12/1/02. It will fall somewhere during those dates and most likely late at night. Some cities have specific channels some don't. I will post all of that before the spots will air, but after the massive job of the press releases is complete.

Stay Tuned... and stay up late at night if you want to see the commercials.

Denis DaMENACE

[nhfearme]

Originally posted by DaMENACE
...The official airdates for all of these will be 11/25-12/1/02. <snip>
Stay Tuned... and stay up late at night if you want to see the commercials.

Denis DaMENACE :eh:
Time marches on... DaMENACE
next year is 2003.
:think:

[beowulf]

Originally posted by nhfearme
beowulf,

Guerrilla Radio? :eh:

Say, what do you think of making the DVD of the commercial blurbs available at our ebay account?

Were all these peeps on the street? Any of them in their office or a bathtub :ewink: My fav is a guy leaning into work on his car engine. ... tee hee Or have them pose like those old Gene Harlow photos... Just for fun (There I go thinking stills again)

Hey Again,

Yes, there's a "Guerrilla Radio" project underway, sponsored by the FWA, that's going to try and get FS DVD's to give away on morning radio shows around the country. It's an FS-awareness-raising thing. I'm sure there's a thread for it like this one somewhere on the board.

You must be telepathic, because I've been thinking about eBay too.... I think I'm going to wait until after the Burbank Con before I do anything like that though.

I shot all of my video in a single weekend at Justin-Herman Plaza in SF (10/5 FS Rally; the ones with the weird sculpture in the background), and in a volunteer's backyard in Santa Cruz (the ones with the blue wall in the background). Kithylara shot her videos in a shopping center parking lot, at a park in San Diego, and in her home. Lorac shot her videos at a 5th of FS rally at a beach-front park in Oz.

Wish I could edit some more of the great folks I have on tape (sorry, no one in a bathtub, but if anyone wants to volunteer...), but I'm pooped and there's still so much to do with the tapes for the cable co's, the press release, and the video CD's (not to mention my regular job), I just have no time left for more right now.

Hasta,

[Dominar of Action]

Originally posted by kimrb
So, the powder is down the barrel, the bullet has been rammed home and the primer set. We've pulled back the hammer and selected our targets. Now my fellow Scapers all that is left is to pull the trigger. Go get your earplugs cause this is going to be a big bang! HELL YEAH!!!:aok: Hehehe, I think kim's pain meds are kicking in :D

HELL YEAH!

[beowulf]

I'm very happy to have a couple of little surprises to announce to everyone! First, I have received official word from Creation Entertainment that the "I Am Farscape" commercial and web spots will be shown at the Burbank and New York Farscape conventions! :aok: I know, it's preaching to the choir, but hey, there's probably a lot of fans out there who haven't seen them -- especially on a big screen!

And next, some of you may have seen me refer in my posts to "something special" I've been working on. Well that something special is a music video entitled, "The Rescue: It's Going Down!" This video is just for us. For us FS fans to vent a little frustration over the cancellation, and to take some pot-shots at the SFC. :devil:

I'm now very pleased to announce that, "The Rescue: It's Going Down!" is a winner in Creation Entertainment's music video contest and will also be shown at the Burbank and New York cons!
:joy::joy::joy::joy:
I'm not going to post the video on the web until after the con, but you can see a preview of it now at:

http://homepage.mac.com/beowulf/rescue/

This one's for all of you. Hope you enjoy it!

Best,

[kimrb]

:aok:

[akimbo]

That is so totally frelling awesome. You rock big time beowulf.

I'm sorry I'm going to miss the big screen debut and can't wait to hear how it all goes. So take notes :)

We'll all be there with you in spirit!

Akimbo

[beowulf]

Originally posted by akimbo
We'll all be there with you in spirit!

Just wish everyone could be there so we could celebrate the culmination of the last month and a half together! :(

[loco2]

Now....

I am leaving on Nov 20 for CA and the con. The ad rep has to have the tape by the 21st. Does that look like a possibility? I'm hoping the press release will be available soon so I can send them around to newpapers and radio stations before I leave too. Do we have any time frames?


Chris
imloco2

[beowulf]

Originally posted by loco2
I am leaving on Nov 20 for CA and the con. The ad rep has to have the tape by the 21st. Does that look like a possibility?

Awesome! :aok: Can't wait to meet you in person, Chris! Yeah, the tapes are labeled and ready to go. I was going to mail them all on Friday, but I can mail yours tomorrow. In fact, I think I'll use 3-day ground just to ensure it gets there in plenty of time.

We're still awaiting final sign-off of the press release from the FWA. We had hoped to have that and the press contact addresses from them today, but didn't hear anything. Hopefully tomorrow. We're really coming down to the wire now. We'll post here as things progress.

Thanks Chris. Talk to you later!

Best,

[Vianney]

There was a SF rally????

[beowulf]

Hey Everybody,

Just want to let you know that all the beta sp tapes are now on their way to cable companies across America. The majority of the tapes actually shipped yesterday, and the few remaining west coast tapes left this morning.

Now all that's left to do is to mail the press releases and VCD's on Monday, and then sit back to watch what happens! Woo hoo! :D

Best,

[tcpike]

Happy dance goes out to beowulf and all who pulled this together!!! Great job!! But, before you sit back in that Barcolounger...or however it's spelled :grr: ... please give us viewing info...then you can kick back and see what happens! :D Thanks!!!

[Eve11]

Do you have a list of the cable companies you sent the commercial to? And do you have the media companies? It might help if local Scapers in the community also contacted the media groups which were targeted and asked about the campaign. You know, give it some local flare.

[DaMENACE]

:aok: :aok: :aok: HELL YEAH!! :aok: :aok: :aok:

Beowulf, you rock!

Denis DaMENACE

[atlantagirl]

Thank you Beowolf, DaMenace, kimrb and everyone else who worked on this project.

Keeping my fingers, toes, and eyes crossed that it makes the BIG BANG we are all hoping for!!


:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[jadeshand]

It Doesn't Get Any Better Than This!!!!

It Doesn't Get Any Better Than This!!!

:joy:

:love:

:bounce:

[Kithlyara]

VERY AWESOME!

Great job beowulf, DaMENACE, kimrb, and everyone else who helped pull this off! Whether you gave press info, booked a commerical locally, or just sent good thoughts this way, you have ALL been a major help! Without you, this would not be possible!

*standing ovation for everyone, especially beowulf, DaMENACE and kimrb* YOU GUYS ROCK!

[beowulf]

I think DaMenace has already posted this a number of times, but here's the re-cap as I understand it (Denis may correct me on this...):


The tapes are going to AT&T cable affiliates in the 20-something target cities. In a few cities, tapes went to non-AT&T companies, probably because they were the dominant cable supplier for those cities.
The list of channels will be different for each cable co, but will include such channels as Lifetime, History, Home & Garden, and so on. Again, Denis posted some of this a while ago; perhaps use the board's search feature for the keyword "channel?"
Times will be different for each cable co, but will generally be sometime in the middle of the night, and may occur on any day between 11/24-12/1.
Fans should not contact the cable co's, since they're only airing the commercial, not reporting on it. It would be like contacting your local highway administration to tell them about your favorite brand of gasoline; they don't care, they just make sure the roads can carry the cars.


So again, let me repeat something I've posted many times now: I think it's going to be an exercise in futility for any of you to try and actually catch the commercial as it airs. That's not the goal.

What you should be doing during the week of 11/24-12/1 is setting your VCR's and TiVo's and whatevers, to record the local news broadcasts, Entertainment Tonight, E!, your locally produced "infotainment" shows, and so on. This will be your best bet to see the commercial on TV, and it's why we're doing this whole thing.

And regarding fan letters to the media during this time: my fear is that if the news stations start getting an avalanche of Scaper mail, it may cause the press release and VCD to get lost in the shuffle. We've done the commercial/press release thing so that we can present ourselves in a single, unified fashion. A lot of these places won't know their Farscape from a Netscape; I think it's important that we let this project do what it was designed to do and not muddy the waters with a letter-writing campaign on top of it.

The FWA PR folks have mentioned on a couple of occasions the possibility of setting up a national Kinko's account that would let Scapers around the country obtain printouts of the press release so they can help distribute the release to print/radio media sources, but I don't know the status of that effort. If you want to mail something to the media though, the press release would be the thing to send.

Thanks For All The Enthusiasm and Support!

[DaMENACE]

I promise I will post a list of cities, channels and times... but not right now. The work is not done yet so I will get to that when I have time... patience my eager friends, patience.

Also, there will be no national Kinkos account. We will figure out some way to get people that actually need the press release a PDF. It is a beautiful press release. Well designed and skillfully worded.

Stay tuned.

Denis DaMENACE

[kimrb]

I just can't resist jumping in here at this moment...this critical moment. I know you've heard me say this before, but there is so much to wade thru on this thread and it is getting a lot of attention right now, so please bear with me. As Beowulf & DeMeance have pointed out, and now me, this is a very carefully planned event. From concept to the point we are right now has been carefully, carefully managed. We all understand your enthusiasum and share in your expectations. But please, let the concept work as planned. Don't flood local media with calls and letters, it will impact the project negatively. If you want to forward the press release then that is just fine. But please, please, don't call or write advising the local media on what to do or the like. It will appear to be an ambush and the project will suffer greatly. I ask that you trust us in knowing what we're up to and how best to make this work. We have worked very hard to be as professional and adult as we can be. So please, enjoy the ride and cross your fingers. Let the project proceed as planned. Not only is this a chance to get our message to millions we couldn't ordinarily reach with our story, it is an opportunity to shed the scifi-fan-geek perceptions held by John Q. We have gone out of our way to present ourselves as a diverse, educated and intelligent group of people. All they have to do is see the spot, hear our story and see us as just ordinary people, who truly enjoy and extra-ordinary show. Not only can we make television history, we can make a statement about who we are. I have told you in the past and am going to tell you again; you can move mountians and shake the halls of the mighty. You just have to do it together. Thank you for all your support and we'll keep you up to date as milestones are reached.

[Dominar of Action]

Thanks for the wise words, kimrb. Might I suggest you post this as a separate thread on the board to be sure everyone gets to see it? Many people are aware of the ad now, but not everyone checks this thread.

[Eve11]

okay, I understand. Sorry about the mishap; I haven't read the whole thread so don't know all the details (shame on me!). I certainly wasn't advocating bombarding media points with letters. It was more like, include the contact info of regional representatives in the press release for the regions so the media can interview somebody local if they want to. But that is an idea I'm sure has been considered in the press release design already. Sorry for stepping on toes.

[JA_Shipper]

Well said, DeMenace and kimrb! So, folks, it sounds like the bottom line is to sit back and let the folks planning this commercial do what they do best. As much as we might want to "push" it, these guys know what they're doing and it would be best to let them lead. :)

Hee, this is gonna be so cool ... :cool:
Suse

[kimrb]

There are no toes to step on, no egos to hurt with this group of people. This project exists for only one reason...to save Farscape.

[beowulf]

Originally posted by kimrb
There are no toes to step on, no egos to hurt with this group of people. This project exists for only one reason...to save Farscape. HELL YEAH!

[uisceboo]

Originally posted by kimrb Not only can we make television history, we can make a statement about who we are. I have told you in the past and am going to tell you again; you can move mountians and shake the halls of the mighty. You just have to do it together.

Thank you for this eloquently-put affirmation of what we CAN do, why we are here, and what we have to do to reach our goal.

jackie u, delurking on this thread for a few moments

[Kismet]

This commercial is your baby. As the time for the airing draws closer I think a separate thread or on the home page should be posted emphasising that scapers should not call or mail their local media. Some scaper (though well meaning at heart) need a brick wall to fall on them to understand how important this is.

[DaMENACE]

HELP!

We need the following cities television contacts badly:



Los Angeles (I know there are a few of you in that area)
Washington DC (I know there are a few DC area folk around)
Dallas

Please, if you can provide us with a list of TV stations in one of those areas, send it to: deymann@fanboyz.com

Our press release stuffing party is tomorrow, so the sooner the better.

Many thanks to all of those that have already helped gather addresses. It could not be done without yah.

Denis DaMENACE
HELP!

[akimbo]

DaMenace...Did you get any help with this? I missed your request until just now. Sorry.

I don't live in any of the three places, but I'll do internet lookup if you want and get it to you by tomorrow.

You can email me if you'd like.

Akimbo

[DaMENACE]

Everyone pulled together and it got done. We got help from numerous sources to get Dallas, LA and DC and it worked out! Thanks to all those that stepped up to the plate and did it!

And the hugest thanks of all to Scapeartist and Twich who spent countless hours putting the list together in the first place. It was an enormous task and they came through for Farscape!

The press release addresses had many people spending many hours gathering, researching and typing. Now here it is Sunday morning and we are about to sit down and stuff the press releases. The dedication to this cause is unbelievable. Thank you all for helping to make this happen.... :aok:

Denis DaMENACE

[kimrb]

Hey gang...way to go in your help for DeMeance and Beowulf. Gathering and collecting all the press contacts seems to be a done deal. Thanks all. And we now have an excellent media contact data base for all to use. This was a huge chore that we can put behind us now. Now the mental image of Beowulf, DeMeance and others, all gather around reams of paper, stacks of envelopes, boxes of Video CDs and pages of stamps. Going thru the list and checking it twice, hoping the media won't be naughty, instead real nice. Oh, oh! Starting to slip into rhyme. Best stop here. Good luck guys and watch out for those papercuts.

[jadeshand]

of you who have poured your heart and soul into this. I know the workload must have been tremendous.

All Scapers everywhere are eternally grateful to you guys.

Let the good times start to roll! :rollin:

What's that? I think I hear that wheel beginning to turn! :D

[kimrb]

As always, Scapers are full of...good ideas. I will make it a point to start a new thread concering the project and what the fans can do to assist in being successful.:eek:

[DaMENACE]

Originally posted by kimrb
Now the mental image of Beowulf, DeMeance and others, all gather around reams of paper, stacks of envelopes, boxes of Video CDs and pages of stamps. Going thru the list and checking it twice, hoping the media won't be naughty, instead real nice. Oh, oh! Starting to slip into rhyme. Best stop here. Good luck guys and watch out for those papercuts.


Well you don't have to have a mental image any more... I took pictures. :D

None of the pictures have my smiling face in it, and it looks like I cut Beowulf's head off.

The picture you see in this post is all of us working hard:

Beowulf is in the back with the black vest. Vianney is in front of him in the brown shirt. Jessica is in the Red shirt and Stewart (Jessica's husband) is closest to the camera.

Many thanks to David, Vianney, Jessica and Stewart. Those fine folks along with myself made this happen. And a special thanks to my wife Jessica (another Jessica, not pictured) , who kept the little Menaces busy while we pounded out the press releases.

Denis DaMENACE

[DaMENACE]

Here's Stewart, Jessica and Vianney working away. We hand wrote the 200 addresses. Everyone's hands are doing fine. :P

[DaMENACE]

And here is a close up shot of one of the envelopes as Jessica is completing it.

[loco2]

Standing ovation! Applause, applause!

You guys Rock! Muy Thanks for all your hard work. It's appreciated by more than just me. We all are grateful for you guys/gals stepping up to the plate and putting in the time and effort to make this a reality.

Ya done good. :cool:


Chris
imloco2

[Eve11]

holy heck! That's a lot of envelopes! It's one thing to say, "send press releases to 24 markets", but quite another to actually do it. Yipes!

And, have I mentioned yet how much you guys rock? Because you do.

[kimrb]

Well done all.:aok:

[ipimen]

omg!!

i really hope your hands and wrists are fine...that's a lot of work.

Thanks a lot for everything. You are awesome!!!

[JA_Shipper]

Way to go you guys!!! :joy: :bounce: :bounce: :joy:

Excellent work. We are all very appreciative of all the time and effort you all have put into this project. :cool:

Suse

[DaMENACE]

There is still some work left to be done on the Do it Yourself Media project.

Check out the following thread to find out how you can help:


http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5247


Denis DaMENACE

[kimrb]

DeMeance and the entire project needs your help. And we need it now. Please follow the above thread and do your part. Without press releases in the right hands, this project will fail. Here's your chance to be a part of history.:eek:

[tcpike]

I wanted to add my thanks to you all for the incredible jobs you did in putting this project together on such short notice and getting the job done! May I also add a personal thanks to Dominar of Action for funding the 5 additional commercial sites which include the Twin Cities! Your name suits you! Thank you for your generousness! You ROCK!!:bounce:

[kimrb]

Bump this thread so netik can find it easily.

[Darkness Ascending]

for what we got, the tv commercial was beyond great:D

[Darkness Ascending]

how much do ads cost in newspapers and scifi mags? any one know? could use ratscape posters.

If descussed already, sorry new here, hehe :P

[angie]

Simon,

I researched this pretty thoroughly before deciding on the USA Today ad. I picked 3 large markets (OC,Chicage, and NY) and the Friday or Sunday TV sections you could get a small ad(3" x 2") in all 3 about $4000 total. Total estimated circulation was 1 and a half million.USA Today was closer to 3 million which was why it was my choice--it was national. A full page ad in the LA Times was $86,000.

[Darkness Ascending]

that about £45? isn't to bad, if you were a company it would be pocket change in the trousers that you haven't worn for a couple of years.... hmm could the save farscape fund go to making a company to make money that way, could make our own orginisation :D , then if it takes off and makes lots of money, make another... then another. then we'd have lots of money :D

o sorry, i live in my lil fantacy land, was tryin to drag you into it... it's a bit like starks :rollin:.... sept cooler :rollin:

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I got a new name for this site, change is good, :D

:confused: <-- you after reading:rollin:

:finger: (had to add this one, is kewl :D )