Wonderful car wraps and decals! Get yours now!

[Tiriel]

(Edited to say:)
OK, this is one of them run-away threads, we started off with something totally different and are now at the point where we have found someone who can print full-sized rear-window-decals (or even wraps) for self-cost (All Hail guyricardo!) and we have an extremely talented artist ready to do the designs for us (All Hail ||Scorpius||!) :D :D :D

This should provide a comparatively cheap and effective way of advertizement, so all you people out there in urban environments: Stand up and be counted! Yeah, I know, AGAIN :D Besides, I'll make your car look real cool :D :D

Read from approximately page two of the thread :)

Love and Peace and HUGE Window-Decals :)

Tiriel :eek:

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(original post:)

OK, so today I saw the coolest thing ever. Someone had their entire beetle painted to advertize a certain cafe. And I mean bumper to bumper, antenna to tire!
It looked awesome! My jaw just dropped and I stared at that thing for a minute or two (and I was late for work already!)

So here's my question: Is there some type of paint that I could use on my car to paint it in Save FarScape motives that is removable? Mind you, I live in LA and although it's been overcast for a few days, I would hope we have a few more weeks before we get any serious amount of rain, so something watersoluble would probably do... I just don't want to go ahead and use something and then end up having to pay a few grant for a paint-job!

Any and all suggestions appreciated (just don't point out that I'm mad, I already know that :D)

Damn! That thing looked amazing! Wonder how many crashes it has already caused.... :D

Love and Peace and Plenty of Movable Advertizement-Space :D

Tiriel :eek:

[buggabboo]

DRD's are a great idea if your car is small...think one eye and 1812.

[guyricardo]

Great idea, but the simple answer is no.

The long answer: I wouldn't recommend you do this without talking to some experts. I'm not, but I am repainting my car myself, so I know enough to know that if you want anything thats going to approximate what you saw, done by auto paint specialists, it will most likely be permanent and expensive.

You could get a starving artist to airbrush designs on the car for less than a paint shop would cost. Permanence will depend on the type of paint used. No guarantees on what that could do to your cars paint job. Chances are you could compound the paint down to the old finish, but you never know.

There are too many unkowns to give you a better answer than that. Like how old is your car, and what kind of paint job does it have? How much value do you place on that finish vs. your passion fo FS? Would you do it if you could have the car repainted for $300-$500 afterwards? Single color paint jobs with no body work aren't that expensive.

I'm not saying it can't or should be done, just make sure what you're getting into, then go for it. :ewink: I think a permanent Scapemobile would be really cool if Henson's laywers don't come after you. :D

[jadeshand]

writing on the windows like wedding parties do.

[Tiriel]

Thanks guyricardo!!! That answers my question, though not the way I would have liked to! sighs
My car is pretty new and a metalic paint-job and it's still mainly owned by the bank, so I wouldn't feel comfortable to do something that would have a definite impact on the value... tries to imagine selling a Corolla-sized DRD-Pike at AutoNation LOL!

Ah Hell, I'll just print larger and better bumper-magnets (||Scorpius|| has some spectecular designs) and just because you CALL them BUMPER-magnets doesn't mean they don't stick on the doors :D :D :D

Darn! That beetle looked just too cool... and in LA you really have to go the extra mile if you wanna raise an eyebrow ;)

Thanks for the suggestions, I might go for some printable window-cals (sp?) saw them at BestBuy :)

Love and Peace and ScapeMobiles :D

Tiriel :eek:

[un4scene]

At the suggestion of the Chicago Rally Co-ordinator (Voy? Thanks for the idea!) I bought the following items in order to paint 'save farscape' in my rear window. She had a sample of one she did, and it looked great. Also, I'm told these paints last about a year, so no permanence there (but only these brands, so if it's another brand you are looking at, beware and read the info on the bottle)!

I bought them here: http://www.plaidonline.com/ but am told they can be found most any art & crafts stores (which I wont go near right now since I'm in the DC area)

Products Ordered:
Quantity: 1
Product: GALLERY GLASS ® REDI LEAD ™ STRIPS - 16089
Price: USD $7.99
Quantity: 2
Product: GALLERY GLASS ® WINDOW COLOR ™ WHITE PEARL - 16021
Price: USD $5.58

[LadyCrais]

I haven't gotten a chance to do it yet, but I found some transparencies meant to be printed on with an inkjet printer and then stuck to the INSIDE of windows to be used for advertising in stores and such. It's with the specialty papers in any office supply store, where all the other goodies like bumper stickers and T-shirt transfer paper is. My idea is print on it and stick it to the inside of my back windshield. What I bought was in 8 1/2 by 11 so I have to do numerous sheets, but it comes in larger sizes if you want to get Kinko's or another print shop to print it. It's then easily removable.

The only problem I'm having is that I thought it stuck electrostatically (and I would swear one brand I looked at did) but the brand I bought actually has sticky stuff on it. So I haven't done it yet because I have those darkened windows with a film on the glass. First I've got to figure out how to make it visible through the darkness, and second have to decide if I think the film is okay.

But for anyone that has an actual glass rear windshield, I can see turning the whole rear windshield into a nice colorful ad if you want to take the time to design it and have a print shop do it for you. It'd probably be under $100, be very attention getting (albeit not quite as great as the whole car) and be in no danger at all of doing permanent damage to your car. The folks who do the darkening on windows with the applied film may also have a way to do it. And just on a hunch, I'd be willing to bet there's a way of doing something similar on the outside of your car (say car door ads) that's equally removable without damaging the paint. A lot of the striping you see nowadays is not painted, but applied decal-type material that I've never had any trouble removing.

[Giggilles]

ok, about a year ago i checked out some websites that do bubble-wraps to cars. they don't paint cars, but instead create and apply this plastic outer coating. they claimed that it wouldn't cause damage to a healthy paint job (read no nicks or flakes). still, one would have to be prepared to repaint just in case.

this website does wraps, but charge around $2500-3500 (depending on size and model i'd assume).

http://www.adsonwheels.com/Car_Wrap_main.asp

my question is, do they charge less for multiple copies of the same artwork/design?

:finger:

ps. search on "car wraps" and you'll find about a dozen companies that do this.

[Tiriel]

WoW! Thanks for all the great tips! I'm pretty sure the stuff at BestBuy said "without sticky stuff", but I'll make sure :)

The car-wrap stuff sounds awesome, but the price is a bit steep (although if it's good artwork no doubt appropriate!) I've never even heard of that before!

So magnets and window-"stickers" it'll be :D Are there any issues with sticking a large one on your backwindow, though? Where I come from you've got to fill out 10 forms (in triple copy) and can only use prespecified permissable (read "VERY VERY EXPENSIVE") parts if you want to change the screen-wiper frequency on your car! I know the US is a lot easier on stuff, but I'm just making sure :D

Thanks again, some great stuff I hadn't thought about!!

Love and Peace and Resourcefulness :)

Tiriel :eek:

[guyricardo]

I live in Jersey, with some of the strictest auto laws in the country. Even here, you can do almost anything to the back window, so long as you have good side view mirrors. Sunny southern climates like SoCal, tend to be more liberal due to the need to block out the heat.

Doing a transparency should be no problem, especially if you screen the image. Any decent photo editing software should have setting for printing at different screening levels that affect how transparent the print is. (Some printer drivers will let you do this also.) You might want to experiment with different screen setting to see which will give you the best view out vs. the most solid image when looking in.

OK, once again, probably more info than you were looking for, but should answer your question. :)

BTW, the static cling stuff like LadyCrais suggested is the better way to go for a temp install so as not to mess up the defroster grid on removal. Also, for a full window decal, try a sign shop like Fastsigns, print shop PIP Printing, Kinko's, or a good window tinting shop. The sign shop is your best bet for static cling signs though.

[LadyCrais]

This is beginning to sound like a worthwhile effort to go for design and multi-copy so A LOT of us can do it. I'm thinking it would lower the price per person too. Guyricardo...you seem to be pretty knowledgeable about it. Any idea if the idea of going together to get a multi-run is a good one?

[guyricardo]

Actually had no idea how that bubble wrap thing ws done till tonight. This kind of research is right up my alley so I'm on it.

The highest cost in any printing job is the design and setup, which doesn't change for 1 or 100, but I think that the varying car sizes/shapes may be a problem in doing a multi-run. I'm sure I could come up with viable solutions for that too.

Anyone else interested in doing this please email or PM me.

Rick

[guyricardo]

This is too weird! :eek3:

http://www.scifi.com/b5rangers/carwraps/

[Tiriel]

You have GOT to be kidding me!!!

:eek3: :eek4: :thud:

off to sit in a corner and cry

Love and... you know just forget it this time!

Tiriel :eek:

[LadyCrais]

Woohoo!! How cool is that! Now if they'd only get their act together and put Legend into production, though personally I'd prefer the first B5 spinoff whose name I can never remember!

Anyway... I was thinking more along the lines of rear windshield cling advertising as more affordable and mass producable. There should be a particular size that will fit the majority of cars, excluding the minatures. Or we could do two or three sizes. I've asked my local Kinko's person in our Farscape group for price info, but she hasn't responded yet.

[guyricardo]

LC, I agree on the smaller scope. I'll be checking into prices today and tomorrow and let everyone know.

We'll have to be careful when designing the ads to stay within the spirit of the copyright laws. i.e. be positive & promote the show, don't flame skiffy, yada yada yada.

[wmdopple]

Ya know, that wrap site that was posted also mentions rear-window wraps for around $199. Much cheaper, and looks pretty good too. Definately still outta my range, but...

[guyricardo]

OK, before anyone else gets carried away with this. My family runs a printing franchise. I thought this was out of thier realm, but I spoke to my bro and it turns out thier poster printer can print on the static cling and window screen/wrap material.

Quick costs based on prices my bro gave for material.

static cling - 36"x50' roll=$250
# of 18"x36" prints=33
cost per=$7.50

screened window wrap - 36"x50' roll=$250
# of 18"x36" prints=33
cost per=$15.00

I'll take care of in house production myself so thats freeeeeeee!

I'll post more once I understand more about the different material, how to apply them, other sizes available, and the actual costs.

[Kithlyara]

Please keep me updated on this. Provided the costs are too expensive, I can do it. My budget is kind of tight at the moment due to my two munchkins and Christmas fast approaching...

[Tiriel]

Wooooaaaahhh!

I want one! Two! Three! Make that half a dozend! One for every day of the week! :D

I'll post in ||Scorpius||'s thread to see if he would be willing to design something that is somewhat light-coloured, tells the story and advertized the show in bright friendly letters that are readible at 80 mph :D

guyricardo: YOU ROCK!!!!!!

Love and Peace and Window Wraps :)

Tirile :eek:

[Tiriel]

Oh and guyricardo: If this turns out to be as popular as I imagine it might be, you might wanna add a couple of Dollars, because it'll take up time during which their business could be making money!
And it'll still be a lot cheaper than anything we could pull off otherwise!!!

I posted in the Graphics section, let's see what wonderful designs those people will come up with (I keep being amazed!)

Thanks again :)

Love and Peace :)

Tiriel :eek:

[StarsGoBlue]

Kansas.

This is a truly great idea! I bought the CBOOL Save Farscape license plate frame, but the writing is on the small side and I've been pondering how to corrupt my car to the Farscape side...

I would definitely buy a couple (and heck yeah, like T says---add a couple bucks! Extra profits could always go to the ad fund or whatever) and I bet other Scapers would too!

I am so lucky to be part of a movement with people like you guys in it!

:P ******Stars

[Viridian]

What talented people we have in our Scaper communtiy!

how about using the Farscape slogan that we are all voting on this weekend?

suzy:P

[LadyCrais]

Thanks GuyRicardo!

Now for my other question! Given that the Sci Fi Channel did this once, and that Bonnie Hammer is who was involved and did it herself, I'm wondering if there is any chance of getting her cooperation/approval to be allowed to use some visuals. I am really having a hard time with the idea that their press photos of the cast are unusable.

So are we simply refusing to approach them? Or have they said hell no! Henson can't give us permission, but I would think Sci Fi could!

And Tiriel - I'm wondering if we couldn't attract the more commercial and artistic minded folks to our thread if you edited your first post and changed the thread title, given how far we've come since then. Just a thought..... :D

[guyricardo]

Based the thread about copyright, I don't think anyone is about to give us permission to use images. Note my mention of staying within the [I]spirit[I] :wink: of those laws and staying positive with what they say. If we do that, the worse that may happen is that some individuals may be asked to remove the ads. They are being designed to be readily removeable anyway.

As far as starting a new thread, I'm thinking of doing that after I figure out costs and how to take orders, etc. Good thing I already have Ebay and PayPal accounts, even though I've never sold anything there. I keep wondering what the frell I've gotten myself into. :D As already said, I'll price to cover all my costs, print media, ink, shipping, etc. If any profit gets made, it's definately going to the SaveFS funds.

[BritAngie]

Henson own Farscape lock stock and two smokin barrels as far as this stuff is concerned. Sci fi only *had* a % part in the whole funding of the show. Hallmark,Hensons and Australia's channel 9 along with Sci fi all *co funded* the show to different degrees. Sci fi cannot undercut Hensons legal position on this and vice versa I'm afraid... :( I wish people would remember it's not a 100% owned show by sci fi.. We should be grateful it isn't and that hallmark and now Foxtel still want to fund a season 5. :) Henson are obviously exploring options no doubt.. But nothing in life is simple..and I'm afraid getting the okay from sci fi will mean nada.. By pulling out of the contract..I'm wondering just how much legal influence they even have any more..? Anyway whichever way you look at it Henson are the ones who are in control of it all. :)

Also Guy the window cling thing is a fabulous idea!! If any smal profit is made and goes to the Hope fund that would be absolutely fabulous!

I'm astounded at the ingenuity of Scapers at large..but this one takes the veritable biscuit! <g>

[Tiriel]

LOL!!! I sure hope Skiffy has fired their market-analysts by now! It really looks like they never knew what they were getting themselves into and suddenly they see themselves faced with a army of angry Scapers and not only do they know how to write letters, but some of them are PR people others are marketing people, there are the entertainment industry insiders, the lawyers, the designers (web and others), the copy-shop, printshop, magazine publishing owners, the writers and entertainers and a number of rather useless people like scientists, programmers and engineers :D :D :D

They CAN'T have known what they got themselves into, or they're suicidal, if we chose to we could be a frelling society in of ourselves and self-sufficient!!! :D I wonder if we have any telephone-handle-desinfecters amongst us ;)

Ha! They're never going to do THAT again! Even if the channel survives ;)

Love and Peace and Great Communities :)

Tiriel :eek:
(off to bed now, while most in the East are probably just getting up)

[Tiriel]

OK, after this I'm really off to bed:

Phantastic News!!! ||Scorpius|| is willing to put something together for us!!! Whoooohoooo!! :bounce:
In case you haven't seen his stuff yet, check out this thread:
http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4138

guyricardo: he wants to know if a certain resolution is needed and just to make sure: It''ll be printed on a transparency, right (I figure the clingy stuff counts as that). Maybe you can answer his questions directly in the above thread :))

He was thinking about a crew collage, which sounds awesome, but one thing we should check is this: I don't really think they can do much worse to us than send us a cease and desist (if in fact someone realizes it's happening and want's to be really bloody-minded about this), but what's the legal situation for guyricardo? Could they get to him in any shape, form or colour? That's the one thing we should make sure about...

Love and Peace :)

Tiriel :eek:

ps:pardon the typos, I'm sure they're there, but... too... tired... :thud:

[LadyCrais]

Originally posted by BritAngie
Henson own Farscape lock stock and two smokin barrels as far as this stuff is concerned. Sci fi only *had* a % part in the whole funding of the show. Hallmark,Hensons and Australia's channel 9 along with Sci fi all *co funded* the show to different degrees. Sci fi cannot undercut Hensons legal position on this and vice versa I'm afraid... :( I wish people would remember it's not a 100% owned show by sci fi.. We should be grateful it isn't and that hallmark and now Foxtel still want to fund a season 5. :) Henson are obviously exploring options no doubt.. But nothing in life is simple..and I'm afraid getting the okay from sci fi will mean nada.. By pulling out of the contract..I'm wondering just how much legal influence they even have any more..? Anyway whichever way you look at it Henson are the ones who are in control of it all. :)

Also Guy the window cling thing is a fabulous idea!! If any smal profit is made and goes to the Hope fund that would be absolutely fabulous!

I'm astounded at the ingenuity of Scapers at large..but this one takes the veritable biscuit! <g>

It has been my premise from the day one that the most useful thing I could do re: the campaign was to turn my body and car into mobile advertisements. :D I wish I'd come online long ago and starting asking the questions on this one because it's been percolating in my head for some time. Thank's for the nudge Tiriel!
I know I'm not providing much help with this, being the "useless scientist" recently mentioned, but I would REALLY like to see this take off and every last one of us have these on our cars all over the country by late December. And there are not enough words to thank you GuyRicardo for running with it!!

For the little local group I'm with, I'm also hoping we can put together one to adorn our cars advertising the public showing of season 3 that it looks like we're going to pull off in November and perhaps December. So when folks get a better feel for how to go about all of this, some input on how to get a local run done if need be would be appreciated. From what I gather in their discussions, they're ready to go with the large magnet thing for the car doors. Yet again I have the conundrum of how to go about this with my plastic vehical, a Saturn. Will it go through the plastic to my supposedly strong steel reinforcing and protecting beams in the door to stick anyway?

Anyway, regarding your point about the copyright issue, now that I'm feeling half awake and cogent, it has dawned on me that the reason SciFi could do it with a Babylon V franchise is because they own it lock, stock and barrel. So I will desist from whining, other than wanting to understand why press package pictures aren't public domain to be used for any and all free advertising, as one would think was the purpose of providing them in the first place. But then I'm a scientist and know nothing of such things as commercial law and copyright. Despite the fact that we write and publish, one does not do such things for money in my world, but simply for the dissemination of knowledge and to be judged and chastised by one's peers. Oh joy, oh joy, back to preparing said manuscript...

....she said slinking back into the night. ;)

[||Scorpius||]

I have to know what I can use in the artwork if not 'ALTERED screencap images'...note the word altered.
if I do drawing/painterly images of the crew is that going to be a problem?
If it has to be absolutely free of any images that smack of Farscape, I suggest some sort of plain type message.
however
The impact of the ad is not going to be as much if it does not have photographic images that scream "Farscape"....and show something interesting.
In my opinion.

Do you want something very colourful, with images, or something very stark and graphical with just text and maybe geometric design?
One thing about the transparencies is that light shines through them...making colourful, photographic designs look great.

[LadyCrais]

Scorpy - Is there any way these graphics are going to show through if I put them on the inside of my car, which has dark tinted rear windows. Or do I have to go for the outside "bubble wrap" was it?, in order to have an effect? And then does it still get darkened because of the tinting underneath it?

[Druuna]

I'll take one of the entire crew if you can make it. I couldn't decide on just one beyond that, cause they're all beautiful. Wonderful work!

I have a Taurus station wagon, so I have PLENTY of rear window to play with. :)

[guyricardo]

Scorpius, I think the idea here is to "promote" the airings of FS on Sci-Fi. As in we are providing free, positive(!?), advertising for thier network. I think that would allow us to use some of your wonderful, colored, posterized images. As has been mentioned, I think the worst that would happen is that anyone that got caught would be asked to remove the ads.

Being that I will be printing these myself after hours, we don't have to worry too much about making them all the same, so maybe a couple of different designs would be good so anyone can pick what they are comfortable with. I think that it would be good to include the new campaign slogan, the dates (times?) of the chain reaction (12/24) and new airings (1/10), and a couple of websites. The print shop is totally digital with the full Adobe sw suite, so I can make any alterations that was needed, including scaling, screening etc. from a layered photoshop file.

LadyCrais, nice rant on the copyright issue:aok:
As far as your local group and the door magnets, I don't know how much those things cost, but I can produce these things on the same car wrap material the pro's use. The cost is the same as the static cling material, and would look way nicer than any car magnet could. The material uses a special no-permanent adhesive that can be remove up to 1 year later with no damage to the vehicle. That solves your plastic car issue:D

The tinted glass is a tougher solution. The static cling stuff would only work on the inside (i can just see it come peeling off as you head up the on-ramp :rollin: ) so no static cling on tinted glass. That leaves the removable stuff you'd use on the car body, but it's not transparent. Side mirrors only :eek3:

There is also the perforated window film, which goes on the outside of the glass. The images are slightly screened in appearance because of the perforations (look at any of those buses or vans with this stuff), but the graphic is very visable from the outside, and quite transparent from inside. It might make your tint seem one shade darker than it is now, but while the graphic's in place, no-one should know that there's tint underneath. the drawback on the window film is that it costs twice as much as the other stuff.

Still, I'm thinking that to do the perf film for a full size rear window (3'x5' for this example) would be about $50-$55 to cover all my costs. I humbly think that's pretty damn good :cool:

Start getting my some feedback on how many people are interested in what type of sign (cling, removable, window film or combination). Personally, I'd love to see at least one person go for the whole enchilada. Any takers :vroom:

OK, I have to spend some quality time with my 9 yo daughter tommorow, so I'll check back in after Alias.

[Dominar of Action]

This is great! I hadn't checked this thread in ages but got curious because it kept getting bumped up top ;)

I'm definitely in for anything that I can put on/take off repeatedly -- I can't plaster my car during the work week for professional reasons, but I can be a veritable billboard on weekends!

[LadyCrais]

Guy - It sounds like you're getting close to being ready to put something through to the SaveFarscape group. I don't think our little thread is being widely read, so to get a reasonably accurate count of demand for the national ad, we need to get it widely disseminated. Are you going to be able to handle it if we get, say, 2000-5000 people? (which is what I want!!!)

And thanks for all the great info on how to get around my car's inherent lack of cooperation with my desires. Looks like the flat area of my rear window is about 20" x 44". I'm thinking I could do a half-height banner (12" x 36" ??) with the non see through stuff and still have the other half to see through. I doubt if I'm the only one with this problem, so if there are enough of us, it could be one of the offerings. I think your price on the perf-stuff is good, but I'd prefer to spend that much and get more of the car if I can.

I'm ALSO thinking I could do the full 18" x 36" down the sides of the car if (yeah, yeah another problem) I can figure out how to keep the flow over two car doors. As for the local group, I quoted your last post to them to see how they feel and ask if we can get enough to make it worth your while to do. Hopefully they'll start answering some time today.

[Tiriel]

||Scorpius||: Great!!! You already found this thread! Excellent!
I completely agree, a crew-collage would be the best way to go and I for one am not terribly frightened about any consequences... as I said, cease and desist in the worst possible case (in which case I might get a friend to put it up in his car ;D) And thanks again for doing this!!! I can hardly wait to see it :D I put your Pilot design on a letter-sized decal on one of the side windows in the back. Today I had this guy driving behind me and he suddenly changes on the other lane like he wants to overtake... but he just hangs in my dead-corner and kinda makes me slightly nervous (I'm thinking car-jackers, this IS LA after all ;)), but when I turn my head to look they're actually trying to read the writing on the decal! I shall print another one later today with just text giving the next airing times :)

LadyCrais: LOL! Yeah, I'm one of those totally useless scientists as well (and should right now be working on a manuscript, too... or maybe on the talk I'll be giving next Wednesday... or... :D) so after 20 years of education, I am too reduced to being a walking, talking advertisement, isn't it pathetic?! But I am wildly determined to play my small part :D :D :D

I'll be spreading the word amongst the LA Scapers as well, we all have plenty of opportunity to spread the word, we spend so much time stuck in traffic!

Oh, and here's another way to get out the message: Leave your magnets on your car, if they're pretty enough they WILL eventually be stolen and put on an other car :D Yeah, OK, maybe this works best in places like LA and NY, though ;)

OK, I'm off writing emails, then...

Love and Peace and Car-Ads :)

Tiriel :eek:

[Dominar of Action]

Speaking of car magnets -- anyone know how to keep the ink on the magnet sheets you buy at Staples, etc. and run through the inkjet from running when it rains? :(

[Tiriel]

DoA: It runs when it rains?!?! D'OH!!! I wasn't aware of that... well, the worst I had here was a drizzle...

I would guess that you should be able to use clear-coat spray... use only a little and repeat the procedure until you have a coat (put it on a big sheet of paper or something). Or stick a plastic wrap around it (I would hope that shouldn't interfere with the magnetics).

Haven't tried either, so the result could be potentially devastating... maybe you wanna try on a small fridge-magnet first...

Love and Peace and Waterproof Ink!

Tiriel :eek:

[guyricardo]

like DoA said. Use a spray laminate. you should be able to pick that up at any office or art supply store.

[T'railmixx]

I made my own magnets early on with computer printouts. To keep it from getting rain damage, I used clear contac paper. Just stuck the image face down on the clear paper then stuck the paper on the magnet, and cut around. Might work for your magnets.

[cofax]

Guyricardo very kindly pointed me to this thread -- I'm afraid I haven't been following it.

Intellectual property is a touchy subject here: Henson owns ALL the rights to make money off of Farscape related materials -- only they or their licensees are allowed to profit from the use of Farscape characters and images.

What's kept this website, and so many other fan sites, on the right side of the lawyers is that we don't do anything with the images or our fan art for money.

So, what's this mean for the car-advertising project? I think it means you're okay, so long as no money changes hands. If you absolutely do need to talk finances, please do it off the boards. Savefarscape.com cannot even appear to approve of commercial uses of Farscape materials, in order to keep this site strictly non-profit.

The key to fannish uses of Farscape materials is that money be kept out of the equation, and that is the primary reason why we cannot use Farscape-based images in any of the print ads we will be running.

[guyricardo]

Let's keep this to good positive 'fannish' art. Intead of creating flyers or t-shirts, we're decorating our cars. Anyone need a sticker or two for themselves, just email me at carwraps@optonline.net. We'll work out the details of what artwork, text and size you would like.

I should be ordering the material by Tuesday. I'll put something together on my car and post the pictures. Any fans in the NE Jersey/NYC area want in on this, email me and we'll try to get together.

Stay posted.:aok:

Email address updated!

[Tiriel]

So lets have a money-free thread :D

Let's talk about art instead... guyricardo: Have you gotten in contact with ||Scorpius|| about the details? I think we should do as suggested and go with a crew-collage (as it is a fan-art thingy and not for profit it should be fine).

I'm still thinking that not enough people can learn about this right now, I'll try to do what Scapers do best and spread the word :)

Love and Peace :)

Tiriel :eek:

[guyricardo]

I think I owe Scorpius another email, which I'll take care of now. I'd thought people we're losing interest, but got a couple of emails about it today. :)

Just so everyone know, I'm trying to get samples of the material so I'm a little more comfortable/informed about working with it. Aperaently not all brands work with ink-jet printers, and I don't want to end up with the wrong stuff.

Should be ordering material tommorow. My personal budget for to buy this stuff is playing tricks with the timing, but I'm determined to do this. I can't wait to wrap my own car. :D

Thanks for the support Tiriel. Yes please spread the word. Not my forté I must admit.

[Dominar of Action]

Let us know when you're ready to rock, Guy. I'm afraid you're going to be surprised at how many people will want a wrap :D

(BTW, did you get my e-mail too?)

[guyricardo]

Dominar don't think so. Send me a pm.

As far as how many people want to do this, I hope you're right. I would welcome the problem of being overwheled by this. :D

[LadyCrais]

We didn't lose interest GR. Just felt shut down. Personally, I just haven't had time to email you yet. I got no problem helping out with getting the word out. I just haven't figured out what to say when I'm told mention of reimbursement for costs is out of line. Personally I don't think you should have to purchase all the materials yourself and be recouped later.

On the question of legality, is the farscape (yellow on black?) with the rays coming out of the S a copywrited visual, or is that equally taboo?

[guyricardo]

The font at least is is used on plenty of fan sites. Not sure about the rays, but I think we can do just about anything that would be acceptable on a fan run website.

As far as fan contributions, either point people to this thread, or give them my email address. Hmmm...maybe I should get a special email address for this project.

As far as buying the materials myself, not only does that help with the legality issue (I'm one fan doing this on my own volition), but it helps get this done soon.

[LadyCrais]

Originally posted by guyricardo
The font at least is is used on plenty of fan sites. Not sure about the rays, but I think we can do just about anything that would be acceptable on a fan run website.

I just know that somewhere in my many graphics searches, someone posted the "logo?" as it shows up on the TV screen, and I wondered if it was truly a logo and unusable by TPTB on this board. If it's acceptable, simply that with when and where might be sufficient and acceptable for some people.

As far as fan contributions, either point people to this thread, or give them my email address. Hmmm...maybe I should get a special email address for this project.

I just posted a thread on Ultimate and a poll on FarscapeWorld to see if I could get some feedback on interest levels for you. Presumably I'm not permitted to do the same here as a part of the question is how much they'd be willing to spend to turn their cars into a work of art. Where else do people commonly frequent that I could ask the question?

As far as buying the materials myself, not only does that help with the legality issue (I'm one fan doing this on my own volition), but it helps get this done soon.

Good Point!

[guyricardo]

LadyCrais,

As far as the logo is concerned. I did a graphic search of my own, and the 'logo' is used in alot of fan art. Between what has been requested from ||Scorpius|| and what is readily available on variuos FS sites, there should be somthing to fit everone's comfort level.

Thanks for starting the survey. :aok: The poll you posted at FSW was pretty good, but I have a couple of clarifications I'd like to make. Send me an email to discuss. I'll be very interested to see what kind of feedback you get. As far as doing a survey on this site I don't see why not. You're not actually asking for $. Just how much someone would be willing to spend. So with the proper wording I think it would be doable. And we can always run it by TPTB first.

I've decided to go ahead and create a new email address for this project. I'm currently only using 2 of 4 that come with my ISP account. Any suggestions for a handle?

Also I just noticed Tiriel's edit of her original post that started this whole thing. Run-away thread indeed! :D

Is it possible to split a thread (where this wrap discussion really go going) and maybe continue with a more accurate topic. I think the idea of painting your car may deter some people. How do we go about doing that? Email an admin?

Tiriel, you started this. :P Any thoughts?

[buggabboo]

If Tiriel wants one of the mods can just change the topic title. Let one of us know.

[Tiriel]

If the admins could change the title that would be awesome :) I did try to do it (when I added the description of what this thread is NOW about to my original post) but it didn't happen ;)

I was thinking:

Full-sized rear-window decals/wraps to advertize FS: Who wants one :D

guyricardo et al. whatcha thinking? Can anyone get the typos out (I hate my dyslexic keyboard :D)? If that's OK, I'll pm one of the mods tomorrow (well, later today, really).

Love and Peace :)

Tiriel :eek:

[LadyCrais]

Wonderful! We have a thread name now! GuyRicardo - I emailed you so you'll have my addy.

Scorpius?? Are you still checking in? Any chance you'd be interested in using your site to display the artwork you're designing for us so people can get an idea of what we're talking about?

[||Scorpius||]

Hello all,
I can't believe how many posts have been made to this thread since the last time I checked it...
it is off the hook!

I'm still here, still want to make a design. Right now I'm working on two other projects. As soon as I finish them, I'll get to work on the collage of the crew.
Something with that many ppl in it will take a little time...a few days, since I'm not using unaltered photos....I hand draw on them and well, it simply takes time to make them look like 'the posters of mine you've seen.'

You are welcome guyricardo, to use any of the posters I've already made of the cast...
http://scorpius-farscape.tv/master/graphics2.html
(there are other printable graphics on other pages, some high contrast (just B&W) and others that are greyscale. Use the navigation menu at the top of the page.
Also, there are wallpapers here
http://scorpius-farscape.tv/master/desktop.html
And a gallery of images here
http://scorpius-farsscape.tv/master/gallery.html
But be aware the wallpaper and most of the gallery art was made for the web, not for print, although I can convert them to print versions (which involves more time...).
There's a very colourful Moya wallpaper, for instance, that some might like to use.

I'll be here for this project, but I've got to finish what I've already started.
Cheers,
||S||

[DenAstrogeek]

Where's the poll???

I'm interested.

Thanks!

[cofax]

I just haven't figured out what to say when I'm told mention of reimbursement for costs is out of line. Personally I don't think you should have to purchase all the materials yourself and be recouped later.

I'm sorry people feel shut down, that wasn't my intent. It's just that, again, commerce and fannishness don't mix very well.

Savefarscape.com is very high profile and while we want everyone's creative and enthusiastic projects to succeed, we also have to make sure we don't get shut down for encouraging and abetting trademark violations and copyright infringement.

This is why we're not allowing anyone to advertise fan-produced Farscape items for sale on the boards. It has nothing to do with the merits of the project, and we're not saying that people shouldn't contribute to help cover costs. But the line between soliciting donations to cover costs and selling something is very fuzzy, isn't it?

That's why we're asking people try to refrain from talking reimbursement on the open boards. That certainly shouldn't keep you from exhanging emails or PMs on the topic.

But just a word of warning here... buttons, flyers, and bumper stickers are pretty low-profile marketing efforts. Studio reps are pretty much used to seeing those out there, and they are exchanged among fans (for profit or cost) all the time. Nobody much cares. But this car-wrap project is going to make a much bigger splash than someone distributing a couple of hundred "Save Farscape" bumper stickers. You can't fly under the radar as easily when your car is one rolling copyright infringement.

That's all I'm saying. Be aware of the risks you take. (And yes, I'm sorry to be a doom-and-gloomer. Seems to be my job these days. Sigh.)

best of luck,
cofax

[guyricardo]

cofax, no apologies necessary. i pointed you to this thread because I wanted your valuable imput, and because I share your concerns about protecting Henson's property, and this sites intergrity. I want to 'play be the rules', and I don't feel shut down. As ussual, I think there are a lot of people who are waiting to see what I come up with before jumping on the bandwagon...errr... transport.

||S||, thanks for the support. I think all of these images are wonderfull. Can't wait to actually test a couple out.

Speaking of testing, I'm finally ordering materials tomorrow. :aok:

I've also created a special email just for this project. carwraps@optonline.net Don't want to swamp my Hotmail account. As for everyone that's emailed me sofar, I'll be gatting back to you in the next couple of days with datails about your specific artwork.

Thanks all,
guyricardo

[Hmpf]

Originally posted by guyricardo
The font at least is is used on plenty of fan sites. Not sure about the rays, but I think we can do just about anything that would be acceptable on a fan run website.



I *think* the font is actually a 'normal' font, i.e. not invented for Farscape. I've recently seen it here in Germany on some quite unrelated advertising.

[LadyCrais]

Originally posted by DenAstrogeek
Where's the poll???

I'm interested.

Thanks!

Sorry about that DenAstrogeek! Dominar let me know I'd put the same url twice and I just corrected it. For anyone else, it's:

http://www.farscapeworld.com/dcforum/DCForumID10/293.html

[LadyCrais]

Originally posted by cofax
But just a word of warning here... buttons, flyers, and bumper stickers are pretty low-profile marketing efforts. Studio reps are pretty much used to seeing those out there, and they are exchanged among fans (for profit or cost) all the time. Nobody much cares. But this car-wrap project is going to make a much bigger splash than someone distributing a couple of hundred "Save Farscape" bumper stickers. You can't fly under the radar as easily when your car is one rolling copyright infringement.

That's all I'm saying. Be aware of the risks you take. (And yes, I'm sorry to be a doom-and-gloomer. Seems to be my job these days. Sigh.)

best of luck,
cofax

Cofax - That's why I'm asking about the Farscape name with the rays of light coming off it. This whole idea is obviously most effective, the more people who do it. Which is why I wondered if just that with where & when would pass muster with the legal folks. Yes, a full bubble-wrap with characters will draw lots of attention. But my original concept is simply to get the word out, like everyone and their brother is doing with flyers. Much as I love the artwork, I think name recognition and how to find it on your TV are the two most important pieces of information, and I'm willing to forego the glitter in return for big numbers if we can get you folks behind it. Even if everyone has to print out their own and we provide the locations to buy the raw material to print on, I think numbers are what count the most. Of course then even us poor farbots can afford to do it.

So if you can make some suggestions that would allow you to work WITH us, it would be greatly appreciated.

[LadyCrais]

So I got a couple of funny suggestions on another site that I just have to pass on to you.

From gennighia:

I thought that this would be a funny to add to this thread... The other day my husband and I were passing a gas station and a dodge prowler was there. I told him the only way I'd get one is if I could paint it black with a red pinstripe and the peacekeeper symbol on the back. Then I'd be a prowler pilot.
--g

And from AgentSun:

anyone have a yellow vw beetle they could turn into a DRD?

[Dominar of Action]

LadyCrais -- don't know how/if I frelled up, but I went and voted in the FW poll, but it's not showing my vote (although it says I've already voted) ... is there a delay of some sort between voting and it showing up? Or could there be a problem with the poll?:(

[LadyCrais]

Originally posted by Dominar of Action
LadyCrais -- don't know how/if I frelled up, but I went and voted in the FW poll, but it's not showing my vote (although it says I've already voted) ... is there a delay of some sort between voting and it showing up? Or could there be a problem with the poll?:(

Well I would certainly feel better to know it's frelled up rather than everyone refusing to even acknowledge it. It does say about posts in general that there is sometimes a lag between posting and when it actually shows up.

However, it is true that that board software won't allow more than one vote per person. So it's frelled if it says you've already voted, unless you're the one who so kindly put that single vote in for "you have got to be kidding me!" by accident. That's the only other vote that's registered. The $50 one is mine. I can't check it without getting a new logname, so maybe Denastrogeek can let us know if it works for him/her. Or anyone else out there that would care to check it out for us.

[guyricardo]

I'm planning on adding the standard copyright disclaimer to all artwork. Like the one at the bottom of all of these webpages. FARSCAPE and all related characters and elements
are trademarks of The Jim Henson Company

It'll be small enough not to be a distraction, but clearly legible should anyone look for it.


prowler pilot :rollin:

[BritAngie]

Lady Crais I'm a mod on FW's board.. If you post a message on the board comments thread about it to Dani he may be able to have a look at it for you. :)

[DenAstrogeek]

(Had to register first...) It took my vote. (I think I'm really inbetween the 50 & 100 choices, but I thought I'd try a choice that hadn't been used yet.

BTW, the link to the poll on the Ultimate didn't get fixed. I'm going to go post the link there now.

[Along the lines of the Prowler and the VW, I've often noticed Talons on the road and thought that especially the red and/or black ones must have the name spelled wrong!]

[Tiriel]

LadyCrais: Hmmm, I don't think it took my vote... at least it looked all the same after I voted...

Hope that helps!

Love and Peace and Working Software :)

Tiriel :eek:

[Dominar of Action]

LadyCrais, if you voted for the $50 and DenAstrogeek voted for the $100, then it definitely didn't record my vote cause I know I voted for one of those (can't remember which :P ), but no worries. I've e-mailed guyricardo privately.

[LadyCrais]

Okay - At the moment we've got one person for $100, two for $50, one for the $25, none for $5 and one "you're an idiot!". Does that cover everyone here? I'll spend a couple of hours this weekend plastering it on lots of boards. I think a lot of folks aren't surfing as much with no episodes on. And not all those that are are jumping into the SaveFarscape section of their boards. At least I hope that's why I'm not getting any numbers.

I need cofax to get back with us and let me know if it's okay to post it here.

[Truemyth]

I still have no idea where this vote is happening. I swear I've been following the thread, but I can't see where the poll was posted.

[DenAstrogeek]

HERE:
http://www.farscapeworld.com/dcforum/DCForumID10/293.html

[Dominar of Action]

LadyCrais, based on the fact that it most definitely did *not* register my vote, I wouldn't doubt you have had a lot more than 4-5 respondents. Unfortunately, many of them may not have noticed whether their vote registered.

You may want to acknowledge that possibility in your e-mails/posts to let people who had problems know to try again and to let new voters know that there may be a problem so they can contact you if their vote doesn't go through.

Just my 2 cents, of course.

[Tiriel]

Hmmm, yeah, I think I can see one more vote than when I tried to vote... and I'm pretty sure it didn't take mine, but it does tell me I have already voted, so it looks like something fishy is happening there...

guyricardo: Argh! My computer is screwing with me, I had another total wipe-out, which means I have (once again) lost all my eamil for the last half year or so :(

Could you please be so kind and send me the one with the attachment again? Pretty please :)

Love and Peace :)

Tiriel :eek:

[TardisRepair]

So what's the status with this venture?

I regestered and voted at FSW but it didn't get counted either.




Proud NashScaper

[guyricardo]

It a go!

Please email me at carwraps@optonline.net to discuss the specifics of your car and just how far you want to go.

I hope to have my car done by the weekend, and post some pics to give everyone an idea of how it will look.

For a quick idea for those that missed it, here is what Sci-Fi did with car wraps to promote B5. http://www.scifi.com/b5rangers/carwraps/ Make sure to click on the links to each of the regional winners.

[Dominar of Action]

Hey guy, what artwork are you using for your car? Has anyone heard from ||Scorpius||?

[guyricardo]

I've sent ||Scorpius|| a pm. Haven't heard back from him yet. I'm sure he's busy with RL and his other projects.

As far as my car. First off, I drive an '83 Camaro Z28, so HUGE rear window and W I D E doors. I plan on using a full crew collage on perforated window film for rear. On one side (door) I'll do a J/A collage being the shipper that I am. :D On the other, I think I'll do a Moya/space collage. I was thinking about going for the hood and fenders as well, but that's alot of sheetmetal, and I'm repainting them right now, so probably not a good idea to slap a sticker on there for a couple months, no matter how cool it would look :( (Hey Tiriel, isn't that how this all started :D)

I'm working on the details of my artwork now. Trying to learn some trick in Photoshop, surfing for high quality images, etc. Not sure when I'll hear back from ||S||, and I don't think he could handle what I'm planning for my car anyway. Hopefully he'll still be able do something for the general public.

Of course, everyone is free to pick thier own artwork. It just has to be a high enough resolution to look good at 18x24 (or bigger).
I think all ads should include the following;

FarScape in FS font - duh!
Chain reaction & new ep dates on Sci-Fi Channel - where else would they be
Campaign slogan(s) - I liked more than one from the contest
Copyright disclaimer - too visible not to CYA
SaveFarscape.com

Personally I'm going to use the tag line ||Scorpius|| has on his wallpapers. "Watch Farscape and know the wonders I've seen". It's not my sig. for nothing. :) Other items, like critics quotes, other websites, could also be used depending on how much room you have on your car.

OK. Waaaay longer than I expected! :D

Anyone who's interested and needs help with picking/designing artwork (could be all text), deciding what type of material (static cling vs trad. car wrap), etc. please pm or email me.

carwraps@optonline.net.

[scaper mary]

Bumping this- I plan to order one!

[Dominar of Action]

I do too as soon as I see how guy's car turns out this weekend ::hint:: ::hint::

[guyricardo]

No pressure huh Dominar! :D

Unfortunately the supplies didn't get here yet. I should have everything by Tuesday the latest. ;) In the meanwhile, I'm working on the artwork. Photoshop here I come! :eek:

[LadyCrais]

I'll be getting one too, but I'm notoriously slow at deciding on artwork. It takes me a week just to decide what to iron on this week's sweatshirt or T-shirt! ;) I keep forgetting to ask how the perf film is removed. Is it with a blowdryer too like the white vinyl?

[Druuna]

Bumpin' up!

I'm in for 3 12"x20" rear window clings (or whatever size you have closest to that). Me and my friends have station wagons! :)

[guyricardo]

I keep forgetting to ask how the perf film is removed. Is it with a blowdryer too like the white vinyl?
yep. The heat softens the glue, allowing you to peel the film off cleanly.

I will be including installation and removal instructions for everyone.

[scrubschick]

:bounce: I want one, Guy!! I'll have my email talk to your email! :hi:

scrubs :spin:

[guyricardo]

||Scorpius|| has offered to help with designing some artwork for the car ads. What do you want them to show? We need some help figuring out what you guys want most.
I plan on using a full crew collage on perforated window film for rear. On one side (door) I'll do a J/A collage being the shipper that I am. On the other, I think I'll do a Moya/space collage.

Check out my full suggestions a couple of posts up.

I have everything necessary to go ahead withthis, so artwork is the last hurdle.

Rick.

[cheeeky8]

*BUMP*

Been following this for awhile. I'm definately interested getting a rear window cling. Just got done voting. Can't wait to see how yours turns out Guy. :D

:bounce: cheeeky8

[scaper mary]

Your ideas for artwork sound great to me- 3 cheers for ||Scorpius|| for helping with the artwork!:aok:

I do have a comment about using the slogan from ||Scorpius||, however...
(Though I do LOVE it Scorpy!) Shouldn't we use the slogan that won the contest on this site, "Farscape: Use your mind, lose your heart"?

What other type of text do you plan to use? Will we have an option to chose or alter it? I live in the UK and references to times on the US Sci-Fi channel may be confusing because there is a UK Sci Fi Channel (no relation) that airs it on a different night/time. Also BBC 2 airs it.

I do think it would be valuable to include air times for those displaying them in the US to help boost ratings.

Thanks to guyricardo for all of your time and research (and investment $) you have spent on this!:D

[guyricardo]

scaper mary, I'll try to work something out with ||Scorpius|| to lose the channel info for you. I do have some ability to edit text, but that could frell with the image underneath.

||S|| can you place text and images on two separate layers that I would merge before printing?

If you read my post at top of page, I do suggest use of the campaign slogan. I personally voted for the winner. I'll be using it on my shipper pic. I use "Watch and know the wonders I've seen" as my sig. Just my personal choice. Works well with the Moya/space/alien collage that I'm designing in my head.

[scaper mary]

I realized after I posted that you did suggest using the slogan. should have looked closer before writing! I like your idea of using both- 'cause they both are soo good!

Thanks for trying re: the text, if not, I don't care, I still want it!
:rollin:

[cheeeky8]

I forgot to ask this in my earlier post. My rear window is rigged for defrosting (can't quite think of the technically term at the moment aarrgh!) Will this interfer with the cling? I saw the post about heating it to take it off. Unfortunately I live in the midwest and things are just starting to get cold. No garage so my car's outside. What do ya think?

Did someone already ask about this? :help:

:bounce: cheeeky8

[guyricardo]

I've been told that the static cling isn't recommended in the cold. The small sample I used did peel off after a couple of days, but the defroster didn't seem to affect it.

I printed my first large static cling tonight. I'll be testing it out over the next couple of days, and it's already pretty cold here. We've had heavy frost already a couple nights.

If I can borrow my bro's digital camera, I'll post some pics.

[Dominar of Action]

So, any word on where are we on this? :)

[Druuna]

I've had a cling for my business (Creative Memories) in my Window since February and it hasn't been affected by the heat, cold or my rear window defroster.

You definitely have to make sure the window is clean and damp (I used Windex) before applying though, and then don't move it around after the initial application. The first time I applied the cling I dried the window off before application and it fell off in less than 2 hours.

Just a little experience talking... I have no idea if the size of the cling makes any difference whatsoever. This cling is 6" tall by 18" long.

I'll still take 3 and try my luck. Hell I'll scotch tape it up if it won't stay. :)

[guyricardo]

didn't turn out as great as I hoped. The image itself looks great, but it's just not very visible from outside. I spoke to the vendors about it, and they suggested some adjustments to make to the print settings. I wish I had know this going in, but unfortunately printing with an ink-jet printer on clear static cling (actually it's translucent) has a limitation of not being able to produce the color white. Also purely photographic images like the one I used, (hail ||Scorpious||) tends to less vibrant than the more artistic ones he has been doing.

As you can see, it does look pretty good from inside, and I had to stop myself from looking in the rear-view mirror every two seconds. Hope fully I can get to print another test tomorrow.

BTW, this won't be a problem with the other materials.

[Dominar of Action]

Thanks for the pictures. Hopefully the test tomorrow with the different printer settings will be brighter. Is this the final graphic that will be used, or is it just for the test?

[guyricardo]

This graphic was just for the test. I chose it because it was a large image size.

Stay tuned.

[cheeeky8]

This is great! I'm definately in for one. Hmmm? Better go measure...

:bounce: cheeeky

[||Scorpius||]

I must apologise for being so behind on this.

I'd rather have redone that poster in your example above (a very early one, converted from a wallpaper image)...the text is not what I'd like...however...
frell, the thing looks pretty good. ;) Still do let me redo it.

I AM working on the full cast one. It is a process; I'm trying to find just the right images of all of them, for expression, lighting, and colour. I have to hand work on each pic, so it is several days' work.

ANYONE with decent quality Sikozu pics please send them to me (put Sikozu pics in header of email) to
darkastronomer@hotmail.com
(note: my scorpius@mindfrell.zzn.com addy has been down for a few days while they upgrade their server so send to yahoo mail above please)

There is so much going on in my RL including work and the recent dire illness of one of my closest friends; it's been hard to get this done. Over the last 2 weeks I did finish 4 character images that I had started but not finished...see Graphics thread "Shedload of new PDF posters"
Stark, Zhaan and Stark, a new Aeryn one, and a Crichton and Scorpius collage.
Upcoming posters: Crais, (possibly Sikozu if I get enough non-publicity still pics of her), Jool and Chiana, a new multi-image Chiana poster, Chiana and D'argo...maybe more.
http://scorpius-farscape.tv/master/graphics2.html
also some versions of these posters *without text* are here:
http://scorpius-farscape.tv/master/gallery.html

Guy, I'm adding 'Characters and names copyright Jim Henson Co'
on all my pdfs. I'm hoping soon watchfarscape.com will host them.
I think all window art you make should have that disclaimer on it.
So, before you print anything, email me so I can make sure the most current PDF of the images you want is online.

I hope you can use some of the crew images I've already made.
and, does the whole-crew image have to be 1x2 proportion? What you had there with the Crichton one looked ok to me.

Also, an idea occurs to me.
You say the white doesn't print on that particular media. Well, how about taking a sheet of frosted mylar (it's translucent white). Stick that over the image on the inside, use spray glue or whatever. I think that might provide the white background necessary...though it defeats the see-through quality. If it were a smaller image put to one side in the rear window it might be ok. The light coming through the mylar should retain the luminous quality of the colours, and I think it might make them 'pop' more than the clear bg.
Another thought: how about putting a small, diffuse light on the image from inside the car, illuminating it from within?
Might look killer at night. A small flourescent light, perhaps...or a light behind frosted mylar...
It looks like you've got tint on your windows...do you? If so, I don't think the colours will ever look bright, not unless you print them on something nearly opaque white and put it on the outside of the window.

[Tiriel]

((((||Scorpius||))))

Glad to hear you're on it! And don't worry, RL is always first! We will need to advertise Farscape until the last epy is over, which won't be until April, I think! It's well worth waiting for :)
And then we'll just have to change the channel and air-time information around half a year later :D :D :D

I'll have to train driving without my rear-mirror then... just side-mirrors... I hate that, but all for the cause :)

Love and Peace and Inspiration :)

Tiriel :eek:

[scaper mary]

I agree with Tiriel, ||Scorpius||, take care of yourself first. I am sorry to hear about your friend, know that many scapers will be sending positive thoughts your way. Your wonderful art will be worth the wait.

[guyricardo]

I tried to get a picture with some sunshine this time. Not alot of sun in NJ lately. :( Got home just in time to take these before the sun went down.

The pictures are obviously from outside and inside. Sorry about the dirty windshield. Didn't look so bad till the light hit it. :)
The top ad is the static cling, the bottom one is the perforated film. (Ignore the backwards text). The perforated film is more transparent from inside than shows in the pic.

I would definately recommend the perforated film for all window ads unless you have to be able to remove and replace the ad.

[Dominar of Action]

Looks like the perforated film goes on smoother too... fewer bubbles. Remind me, how does it get along with the window defroster?

[guyricardo]

As Druuna mentioned before, static cling has no problem with heat, cold, or defroster. I just put these on this evening, and I we have a wet cold weekend ahead, so it will be a good test of how they hold up.
I only hope I have enough laminate on that window film.:)

[Truemyth]

yes, yes! I like the perforated film... When will you start taking orders? :)

I'll have to start thinking up more excuses to drive around! :D

[Tiriel]

guyricardo!

Whoa! I'm so with you on the perforated film! It looks awesome! I'm sure this is somewhere in the thread here, but I'd really appreciate if someone could quickly check to make sure I'm getting this right:
The perforated film goes on once and then stays until you take it off at which point it will be destroyed in the process.
Is there anything particularly difficult about getting it onto the window (besides trying to keep your mouth closed to avoid getting a chill? :D)
And is there any particular problem in getting it off?

And what size is the one you got on there?

Love and Peace and Colourful Cars :)

Tiriel :eek:

[guyricardo]

The perforated film is designed to be applied only once. Interestingly, this is the second time I've applied this particular ad. I had it on a storm door glass overnight. I was able to remove it and reapply it quite easily, but I wouldn't recommend doing that. It is noticeably less sticky this time around. I think it will become more attached to the glass when left in place longer, like ene painters tape left on a wall for more then a couple of days will take the paint of with it. Anyway the point is that the ad doesn't get destroyed, so you could save them as souvineers of how we got our show back:D

The ad is 22" wide by 13.5" to top of John & Aeryn's heads.

Anyone ready to go on this just email me. I'm already working on two orders. One's for a fellow Jersey scaper doing both sides and the back of her car. We'll post pics as we go.

[cheeeky8]

*BUMP*

Hey guy! Did you get my e-mail?

:bounce: cheeeky8

[Dominar of Action]

Is this the final design?

[Truemyth]

Okay, I've been semi-following this thread for a while, and must have missed the answers to these questions. However, you never know until you ask...

Is this being done on some kind of case by case basis? I mean, are you really ready to take mutiple orders? In which case, maybe you, or someone who knows what's going on better than me, should write an article for the SFS.com site and send it to Red.

What are the final costs?

Where can I see the possible art? Or do I have to provide it myself?

[guyricardo]

originally posted by cheeky8 Hey guy! Did you get my e-mail?yes I did

posted by DoA Is this the final design? No. This was just an iron-on transfer image designed by Brian J. Hall that I used as a test piece.

from Truemyth Is this being done on some kind of case by case basis?you betchaI mean, are you really ready to take mutiple orders?ready? hmmm...I still have a choice:). ok, yesIn which case, maybe you, or someone who knows what's going on better than me, should write an article for the SFS.com site and send it to Red.err...not sure if that's a good idea.What are the final costs?very reasonable:D. actually, it depends on the type of sign, and how much of the car you're doing. email meWhere can I see the possible art? Or do I have to provide it myself?Since each project is being handled seperately, the artwork will vary from project to project. You can look around at all the farscape sites to find something you like. ||Scorpious|| is doing a cast collage for this project, and he has lots of fantastic save/watch farscape posters in the Graphics section here and on his site. I can also work with someone like I'm doing with CatsEye (a scaper in my area) who is going nuts and doing 3/4 of her car.:eek: Artwork for her was pieced together from lots of different sites. Pics of first phase will be posted Wed evening.

Hope that answers all questions up to this point. The bottom line is, anyone that wants to do this just send me an email and we'll work things out. I've been a little distracted by RL lately, but I'm back in full scaper mode.

email: carwraps@optonline.com

[cheeeky8]

Ah that little pesky thing called real life. Too bad we can't box it up. Nah, then we'd all be bored. :P

:D

[guyricardo]

Here 1st pic of our first project car. Thanks to Catseye for being bold enough to want me do do this her car.:aok: Unfortunately pic had to be taken at night, so colors aren't as bright as during the day, but it should still give you an idea of what we're up to.

We're going to do the back and the other side over the next couple of weeks. We have ideas, but haven't done the artwork yet. We'll also be tweaking this side to get more pop from the background images, and make the small text more legible.

Maybe if I can get better quality pics (or I'll just post the artwork only), you guys and gals can play name the picture source:)

Alright, it late...eerrr, early so I'm off to bed.

[Dominar of Action]

OMIGOD, that is absolutely awesome work, guy! :eek:

Makes me wish I had a second car I could go all the way with like that. How will you still have the time to do the small projects!?

[guyricardo]

One of the advantages of being unemployed:)

[guyricardo]

I been in touch with ||Scorpius||. Our 'artiste extroidinaire' is trying to put together a crew collage for this weekend! From what he's described it should be awesome. I know that alot of people following this (myself included) have been waiting to see what he comes up with.:)

[rorykearn]

Catseye showed me a pick of her car at the Burbank Con. I love it. What a great way to advertise Farscape.

Rory

[OneEye the DRD]

I sent an email, but have not yet gotten a reply. Is there a delay I don't know about? Did my email get lost in the ether? Is this project still active?

Hello???

OneEye

[guyricardo]

Sorry OneEye. Just sent you an email.

We are very much active, and should have some wonderful artwork from ||Scorpius|| very soon.:aok:

[Dominar of Action]

What will the turn-around time be once we get ||Scorpius||'s artwork?

[||Scorpius||]

Look here for some of the preliminary images:
http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5549

||S||

[Dominar of Action]

Excellent! [/Dell Dude voice]

[cheeeky8]

||Scorpius||'s new images are fabulous! Ok, that's what I want for my crew picture!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: Can't wait, can't wait, 'til I can get car all Farscaped up!

cheeeky8

[Ripley9]

First off, ||Scorpius||’s new crew collages in the Graphics section look amazing! :aok:

I’ve wanted to get a window decal, but hesitated thinking my rear-window windshield wiper (whew, that’s a tongue-twister) would damage it. After digging out the other day from under our early snow surprise in the eastern U.S, I was wondering how the decals fared after snow/ice car-clearing.

To Guyricardo, Catseye, or anyone else who already has the decals and had to clear snow or ice off their cars, could you please tell us how they held up? Can you use an ice scraper (carefully) on them? Or (hopefully) does the snow not stick as much to their surface in the first place?

Thanks for your time :)

[||Scorpius||]

There are Nine finished Car ads here:
http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5549

These can be printed on two different types of translucent media...or on paper...talk to him about it.
I have pdfs of these available if you need them to do your own printing.

PM guyricardo here for ordering information or email him at:
carwraps@optonline.net

EXAMPLE
http://scorpius-farscape.tv/master/graphics/crew_collage2_tn.jpg

you can see them all on the thread above or go to my gallery
Sanctum of Scorpius gallery
http://scorpius-farscape.tv/master/gallery.html
to see larger jpgs of them. The actual images are LARGE...over 3 feet at least.

[guyricardo]

||Scorpius|| you rock dude! :aok::cool:

Ripley9, when properly laminated and installed using an edge sealer, the decals hold up just fine under a scraper. I'm using a spray laminate which is a clear automotive top coat used on most car finishes today.
I'll make sure the lamination is heavy enough, and I'll include instructions on installation and sealing the edges so you won't scrape the decal off.:D

[Dominar of Action]

Guyricardo, if we ordered one today, when would you be able to get it to us?

[Selena]

LadyCrais .... I think you are referring to Crusade.

[Selena]

Probably has already been asked and answered but I have yet to see Farscape T-shirts anywhere. Could we get some printed with our SaveFarscape.com and non copyrighted artwork?

And an even more bizarre thought ... I'm a quilter and I would love to have some Farscape fabric! Could we send our designs to Cranston Print Works or Hoffman Fabrics in California?:D

[||Scorpius||]

*BUMP*
Get 'em now Scapers!

About using my images (for other purposes than these car ads)
All I ask with my Farscape art is that you don't alter it when you use it...ie, don't cut off part of it, or add other text to obscure characters. Just EMAIL ME if you need modifications. This art represents me...and I want it to look right.
Also, please leave my signature on there (the Scorpion glyph) and my website url (tiny).
These are the only way I'm signing them and the only way people can get in contact with me about them.
THANKS. I trust you will use them as gentlemen and women.

If you need the PDFs (high resolution files) for other printing purposes, for instance as posters to display at Nemesis showings or Lord of the Rings Two Towers...for flyers, banners, or for personal T-shirts, whatever...
let me know. I will email you the URLs for them. I'm not posting them publicly because they are big files.

http://scorpius-farscape.tv/master/gallery.html

[Dutch]

I'm gonna *bump* you up.

[Kithlyara]

Please humor, as this thread is HUGE!!! My pretty new silver Elantra would look simply awesome with a Farscape car wrap in the rear window! How do I order one and how much do they cost?

[Tiriel]

Thanks (((Dutch))) for the renaming!!!!

I feel like I'm starting to sound like a market-crier :

"Get your car-wraps!
Get them NOW!
Get your car-wraps!
Get them CHEAP and get them COLOURFUL!
Get your car-wraps!
Get them NOW!"

:D :D :D :D :D :D

Need to decide which design I want... oh dear, oh dear, oh dear!

Thanks again ||Scorpius||, they're all simply fantastic! Hehe, you're spoiling us, soon we're not going to accept anythingless than outstanding! ...which kinda defies the whole idea of "out"-standing, but there you go :D

And Kith: ||S|| gave an email-address through which you can contact guyricardo, he can tell you all you need to know :)

Love and Peace and Colourful Car Wraps :)

Tiriel :eek:

[guyricardo]

I think I need to start a new thread for this. Getting way too long for newbies to slog through.

Tiriel, not standing for anything less is what this whole campaign is about, isn't it?:D

Kith, and anyone one else that's interested, please email me at carwraps@optonline.net. I will need to know kind of ad you want, and where. If you're not sure, I will work with you to figure it all out.

[Kithlyara]

THANK YOU! Please ignore my PM :) Sorry to bug you!

[||Scorpius||]

Hey everyone, I did just post a new info thread about the Car ads--see "CARSCAPE..." :cool:
this way info will be easier to find for new folks

Guyricardo; maybe you could post a run down of the info and all that on the new thread?

Cheers!
And thanks DUTCH and TIRIEL!:aok:

||S||

[Cygnus092299]

Man This could help me a lot I am working on a serious computer case modification and I need a second decal of the entire cast for one full side panel. I could really use some help with the graphic and obviously someone to print the decal. I will pay for this!!!

[guyricardo]

Man. I can't believe anyone actually found and dug up this crusty biscuit! :)

Cygnus092299, I'd be happy to make the decal for you. Check out the CARSCAPE (http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5716) thread at the pinned near the top of this page for some of the graphics, as well as how to contact me (also in my sig..hint, hint). You can also check out the graphics forum for other graphic ideas.

I'll have to get some more of the decal material, but I think ComputerScape would be much fun.

[waltersgirl]

but I think ComputerScape would be much fun.

we got TONS of people asking for stickers and decals. many thought the ratscape postcards were stickers and were very excited, then sad, then happy they were pre-addressed.:D

[Dominar of Action]

Ooooh, Ratscape stickers would be wonderful! It's back to school season soon, you know, and those kids need material to decorate their notebooks and book covers with! ;)

And I'd gladly put a Ratscape decal next to my "Frell the Whales: Save the Leviathans" decal :)