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fialka
10-17-2002, 03:10 PM
This is going to stay pinned to the top of the board, so if you get a response to any of your To-Do list letters and you don't see it already here, please post a copy. On behalf of we who are going to be up late tonight making tomorrow's list, it is fantastic to read them and see the letter campaign *is* having some effect. We can't thank you all enough for the efforts you've made with this.

By the way, don't be put off by the fact that people are getting form letters back. That's a good sign -- it means they got too many letters to answer them by hand, but enough to make it worth their while to take the time to draft a response and *spend the postage* to answer back.

---

The first response we heard of was from KFC (see thread at http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4562.)

There's also this one from Best Buy (provided directly to SFA by Karen Copp -- thanks kc!)

I received two letters today from Best Buy -- both the same, but still good:

"Thank you for contacting Best Buy's Corporate Headquarters regarding
Farscape. We appreciate the opportunity to assist you and to address
your concern. I apologize I was not able to respond sooner; please
allow me to do so now.

"On behalf of Best Buy, please allow me to apologize for any frustration
or inconvenience this situation has caused you. I would like to thank
you for making your concerns about the Sci-Fi program, "Farscape" known
to Best Buy's corporate headquarters. Our company purchases broadcast
time on a wide variety of television shows. Our purchase decisions
focus heavily on the audiences reached by the various programs. We are
concerned when one of our customers is moved enough to share his or her
comments and suggestions with our Consumer Relations department. Please
be assured your remarks have been heard and forwarded to the employees
charged with making key advertising decisions for Best Buy. Your
valuable input enables Best Buy to better evaluate the advertising
vehicles we choose in the future.

"In closing, I would like to thank you again for taking the time to
write. Your business is important to us and your comments are
appreciated. We thank you for your patronage and look forward to having
you back in a Best Buy store very soon!

"Lena Morris, Contact Center Representative, Best Buy Enterprise
Customer Service."

kc

Dinzy
10-17-2002, 06:41 PM
Nice.

Best Buy is the only sponsor I actually buy from. I actually plan to go tomorrow and pick up some stuff :)

uisceboo
10-19-2002, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by fialka
[B]By the way, don't be put off by the fact that people are getting form letters back. That's a good sign -- it means they got too many letters to answer them by hand, but enough to make it worth their while to take the time to draft a response and *spend the postage* to answer back.

That is an incredibly important insight, Fialka, and thank you for pointing it out. In moments of doubt, we tend to look at things first negatively and bypass the positive. This is a big positive!

I've worked in the offices of big companies, and I have been the letter-signer (my poor hand) and the sender. It is so true -- companies only send mail if they feel it is important, because mail on that scale is expensive. They feel our words, opinions, feelings and outrage are important, otherwise they would not be bothering to send letters back.

Thanks again!

jackie uisceboo

akimbo
10-20-2002, 08:21 AM
Got a response from Mitsubishi:

"Thank you for your letter to Mr. O'Neil regarding our Television Commercials. Please accept this response on Mr. O'Neills' behalf.

"In you letter you expressed your concern regarding the cancellation of a particular television program. Mitsubishi Motors commercials run in connection with a wide variety of shows on a rotating schedule and we are not tied to any particular show. We regularly evaluate our advertising program and will take your comments into consideration.

"Thank you for sharing your concerns."

"Sincerely,
Robin J Strom
Customer Relations Support
Mitsubishi Motor Sales of America"

Didn't mention Farscape by name, sounds like they don't know who they're advertising for :goof: :headbang:

CMScaper
10-20-2002, 11:15 AM
Nothing encouraging from the agency that handles Domino's Pizza (any errors are theirs):

Thank you for your letter dated September 21, 2002 regarding sci-fi channel movie Farscape.

As a matter of policy, we do not consider suggestions or idea's which are offered to us on an unsolicited basis. I am sure you can appreciate that consideration of such material could tend to place us in an awkward position, since it is always possible that an idea submitted may not be original or that it may have occurred to one of our clients or to our own employees.

We trust you will understand that, as an advertising agency, we feel obliged to maintain this policy without deviation. However, we do want to thank you again for your interest.

Sincerely yours,
Judy A. Adams

Management Supervisor
J. Walter Thompson USA Inc.

Scapekid
10-20-2002, 01:33 PM
Even though they said they weren't going to respond to UPN, it's still a good sign that we bugged them enough that they put together a customized form letter just for Farscape. It shows we're bugging them enough for them to notice.

Even though they aren't (by the sounds of it) going to put any pressure on UPN for us, *when* Farscape does roll out on the air again, you can bet that they'll go, 'huh, wasn't that the show we got all those irritating letters about? Maybe we should keep advertising there - people actually watch...'

They're adhering strictly to policy here, and I can't blame them, but that's so that we can't sue them later for not paying us because we gave them advertising advice they listened to or something else crazy.

We're making people notice us, that's the important thing.

Love,
Scape'

:jedi:

MJN
10-21-2002, 11:01 PM
I received a few letters back already, Best Buy, Jim Henson, a post card from TNT, KFC and this Mazda letter today.

RE: Farscape
The Sci-Fi Channel

Dear Consumer,
We are in receipt of your letter regarding your request for assistance to keep the program feature, "Farscape" from being discontinued.
We just wanted to take the opportunity to thank you for taking the time to bring your suggestions to our attention, as consumer feedback is very important to Mazda.
Your suggestions have been documented for the corporate record and a copy has been forwarded to our marketing/advertsing department for their review as well.
If we can be of any future assistance, please contact us.
Sincerely,
Mazda Customer Assistance
They also included a 800 # and if anyone is interested they can ask me.:)

Stygian
10-22-2002, 03:57 PM
If we can be of any furture assistance, please contact us.


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jadeshand
10-29-2002, 01:25 PM
Dear Reader,

Thank you for your suggestion that we publish an article in TV Guide about the "SAVE FARSCAPE" <interesting here is that they had Farscape underlined!>

Our editors are interested in readers' ideas and opinions, and we have passed your letter on to them.

Sincerely

Helene Curley
For the Editors

It was hand-signed.

loco2
11-04-2002, 09:49 PM
I posted this a while back, but I did think it was a positive sign and didn't want it to just get lost...

Chris--

Thanks for your interesting idea, and for being a loyal viewer. While I agree that a 90 Second Life Story on "Farscape," could be fun and informative, the segment has been designed to promote movies on Pay Per View. We have never done a piece that did otherwise.

I am however sure that we will want to cover the Sci Fi channel's running of the last eleven episodes within "What's On," our nightly segment that reviews the best of primetime.

Thanks again for your interest in TV Guide.

Larry T. Robkoff
Director, Programming
TV Guide Networks, Inc.


If more people write to TV Guide Channel requesting them to cover Farscape in January perhaps they'd be more sure...

Chris
imloco2

harveywhispers
11-06-2002, 09:31 PM
Just got this email response from KIA -



Dear (real me deleted):



Thank you for writing regarding your concern with the cancellation of Farscape. As Kia has been an advertiser in the past on this program, we investigated this cancellation and discovered the following:

* This is Farscape's last season on Sci-Fi due to contract issues.
* Farscape will air new episodes through March '03, and repeat episodes through September '03. Kia will air commercials on Farscape through September 03.
* Unfortunately, it is our understanding that UPN will not be picking up the show as was rumored.

Kia is eager to support shows with a loyal following, thereby ensuring that quality programming remains on the air. Although Kia was unable to affect the Farscape cancellation, we will continue to support similar quality programming, such as Stargate on The Sci-Fi Channel and Star Trek Enterprise on UPN.



Thank you for writing with your concern.



Sincerely,





Walter Anderson

Vice President, Marketing





/tl

**sent the letter writer a real nice response w/some better info - her email is TLachman@Kiausa.com

scaper mary
11-07-2002, 04:15 AM
This is a good sign, let's keep up with the letter writing- it is making a difference!:D

fialka
11-07-2002, 08:37 AM
It's actually good news.

Anderson obviously contacted both SFC and UPN, and that's all the sponsors can do. Getting them to do so, however, is quite a coup. Sci-Fi is, of course, going to give their spin, that's not the point. The point is Kia called, Kia is a major advertiser on both networks, and Kia has bought time not only for the new eps, but also for the reruns -- a hard market to sell for this particular show. So thanks are in order, to them and to everyone who wrote -- they did what we asked them to do.

With reference to UPN (indeed with any new network or with SFC), no decisions are going to be made until after January, probably not until late spring. Everyone's waiting for the numbers, if they're high enough, believe me, interest will spring up where there's appeared to be none.

Until then, everyone's going to be keeping stumm, because that is how these things are done. Our only way to measure interest is to keep writing to them. Until they issue a formal statement requesting that we pick up our toys and go home, there is hope.

Dominar of Action
11-07-2002, 09:03 AM
Thanks, fi. I am continuing to plug along, counting on the fact that we WILL be sent a message unequivocably and directly through the FWA if it's ever time to pack it in.

Until then ...

SCAPE ON!:finger:

GeekedOut
11-07-2002, 09:14 AM
I am continuing to plod away as well though this week I have been innundated with college related things. I have one more semester till I have my degree in my hands and unfortunately, that does take precedence.

Still writing, still hoping, still praying. And I also hope we will be given a sign when things are no longer worth pursuing.

And it does send a message when a group of fans can get a major advertiser to call both networks.

MediaSavant
11-07-2002, 12:11 PM
I thought some people might be interested in knowing a little bit more about how advertising buys are made.

First, most advertisers have ad agencies or media agencies who do their media planning and buying for them. It's the media agency's job to determine what media are best for advertising their product and what vehicles within each medium should be bought. The agency does all the research and makes the recommendation on what to buy to the advertiser. When the advertiser agrees, the agency negotiates with the network or the magazine or whatever is going to be used.

For national broadcast and cable TV, there are two marketplaces:

1. Upfront
2. Scatter

The upfront is where the agencies negotiate big year-long deals with each network. The deals have a lot of advantages, but they do involve a yearlong commitment to buy time on that network. The time is bought for a year that begins in 4th Quarter and ends in 3rd quarter of the following year. The negotiations for these deals begin around Memorial Day and end during the Summer.

Many of the advertisers you are contacting cut their deals with SciFi last Summer and are committed to them through next Summer. "Upfront" is how most of the time is sold.

As you can imagine, these longterm deals only vaguely involve knowing what the actual programming is going to be on each network since that is a very volatile thing.

This is why a "Kia" knew that they were advertising on SciFi and Farscape through next quarter and beyond.

The other marketplace "scatter" occurs during the year for advertisers who didn't want to or couldn't commit. Often the prices are higher and inventory fluctuates based on supply and demand. Those are the disadvantages of scatter buying.

If you are seeing a big major advertiser on TV, the chances are that the spot you are seeing was negotiated a long time beforehand in the upfront market.

Hopefully, this explanation of how business is conducted will help you understand some of the responses you are getting a bit better.

RobinC
11-07-2002, 03:24 PM
I posted Michelin's answer to my letter in another thread (named "Michelin Response"...sorry, probably should have posted it in this thread...still getting the hang of this).

Thank you MediaSavant--your note on how advertising buys are made helped me to better understand their response to me.

Robin

(To TPTB: If you want me to repost my Michelin info in this thread, please let me know, otherwise I won't double post.)

harveywhispers
11-07-2002, 05:05 PM
MS -

Thanks for the insight.

Also, to everyone, didn't mean to sound bummed about the email response - it just caught me a little off guard to find it.

Mike@Pilots Chamber
11-09-2002, 10:22 AM
Sent this to both Michael Jackson (not the singer, though that'd be quite good if we had Michael Jackson supporting us) and Bonnie Hamer at the Sci-Fi Channel -

First, I would like to congratulate yourself and the Sci Fi Channel on the excellent programming it creates - or what I've seen of it (I live in the UK and watch the UK Sci Fi Channel which I understand gets some of your content).
Out of the shows I have seen I have enjoyed both Dune and Farscape, being an ardent fan of both. Indeed, I started with the Dune books and moved on to the 80's movie, and then onto the TV series.
And with Farscape, let's just say I eventually got hooked.
I have recently read about the decision to cancel Farscape, and was quite disappointed. Not angry - I can understand why businesses need to do these things and, in the end, the Sci Fi Channel shouldn't waste cash on what it believes to be a floundering show.
I am unsure of what the current status is of the rights your channel has regarding Farscape, and would greatly appreciate it if you would consider putting them up for sale so the show can be bought by another channel.
I shall close by saying that, even though the perceived audience for Farscape is small, the viewing figures merely reflect how many television sets are used to watch Farscape, instead of how many people watch it. I regularly watch it in a group of three and am sure many other fans do the same.
Thank you for your time.

Michael Bell

Erp
11-11-2002, 03:40 PM
I've written all the to-do letters, with a few exceptions, and sent several emails. I'm glad to say that I finally got a response, and by email at that.

Dear Dr. Robinson,
Thank you for taking the time to contact us with your comments regarding our T.V. advertising. Our Norelco customers mean a great deal to us, and we take your feed back seriously. I will forward your comments to the appropriate department.

Karen Leigh
Customer Care Specialist
Norelco Consumer Products Division

NYPinTA
11-13-2002, 01:22 PM
I got my KIA letter just yesterday. It was exactly the same as the one posted above.
I was bummed when I got it. I had to read it twice to be sure I read it correctly.
The other letters I have gotten were vague but positive. "Thanks for the input... our customers are important to us.. . blah blah blah." But this one stated quite clearly that they investigated. That was slightly reassuring till I read the rest.
But, after comming here and reading the other posts I am renewed, a bit.
'Never give up, never surrender!'

:P

Back to work.

waltersgirl
11-13-2002, 01:59 PM
don't feel too bad, though. he didn't write anything that we don't already know. there is no confirmation about UPN. and if UPN is in negotiations with anybody to fund the 5th season, it wouldn't be something anybody would discuss publicly. look at it this way, KIA took the time to do the legwork about Farscape based on letters that they received. that's actually a good sign. they didn't just blow us off.

when we succeed, we'll just remind KIA of their committment to shows with loyal followings. :D

NYPinTA
11-13-2002, 02:23 PM
Thats what I was telling myself. That UPN wouldn't spill the beans until it was a done deal. (Hope hope hope....!)
I just would have been nice if they had added one sentence:
'But we did tell UPN that if they did pick up the show we would be glad to advertise on it....' or something to that effect.

dax0402
11-13-2002, 07:46 PM
Also got a Kia response letter. At least the campaign to getting noticed. I'll take that as a good sign.

jltaylor
11-13-2002, 10:43 PM
I also recieved the Kia reply letter. After staring at it for a while and feeling for indentations in the paper, I've decided that it's hand-signed.

marph
11-14-2002, 02:13 PM
just out of curiosity, did they ever post the results of how many people have been keeping up with the homework?
i wasn't sure if it was posted and i missed it somewhere...

grapeshot
11-14-2002, 06:22 PM
I mailed my letter to Best Buy on 10/21 and finally got a reply today. It's a form letter, and doesn't say anything other than what's been reported here, except it does APOLOGIZE for not getting back to me sooner. On the other hand, it's NOT signed at all, even though it has a person's name typed at the bottom.

akimbo
11-23-2002, 12:59 PM
Got a reply from Clorox today:

"Thank you for your recent letter about the Sci-Fi program "Farscape". We appreciate your loyalty to a quality program like this and also appreciate your loyalty to our products.

The Clorox Company will remain committed to quality broadcasting and we will continue to support programming that adheres to our programming guidelines.

Sincerely,
(Printed signature)
Terry Dittus
Product Specialist"


Not great, but at least a recognition.

Akimbo

BTW - My IBM letter came back "Addressee Unknown" hmmm

dax0402
11-23-2002, 01:28 PM
Just received the following response from People Magazine's Managing Editor, Martha Nelson:

"Dear Farscaper:

Thanks for your letter to me about Farscape. I have received 36 letters on this subject and I appreciate your heartfelt plea, but we can't yet see a story here for People. (I am enclosing a copy of our review one year ago, however.) If your grass-roots campaign continues to build, keep us informed.

All best of luck. You're among a very passionate group of fans.

Sincerely,

Martha J. Nelson"

Maybe People Magazine should be added to every "to-do" list every week until they can see a story!

Scapekid
11-23-2002, 02:56 PM
Somebody send those people a press release quick!

If that's not a newsworthy story, I don't know what is...

Let's add them to the to-do list! Yay!

Love,
Scape'

:jedi:

RobinC
11-23-2002, 06:17 PM
Got a reply from Procter & Gamble today. They write:

Thank you for conctacting P&G about the Sci-Fi Channel's show, Farscape.
I'm sorry you're disappointed this show has been cancelled. However, we have no control over programming decisions. You may want to write directly to the network to share your comments.


So...no help there. But onward and upward.

Robin

deweytoo
11-24-2002, 01:30 PM
I received the exact same letter from People Magazine. I thought that there were more than 36 of us writing letters on the To Do
List. On another note, it doesn't sound that negative. At least she gives us some hope for a future story.

Hmpf
11-24-2002, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by deweytoo
I received the exact same letter from People Magazine. I thought that there were more than 36 of us writing letters on the To Do
List.


There most certainly are more than 36 of us. I, for one, do participate in the To Do Lists, but I do not write to every recipient, every week - I just don't have time and money for that (mailing from Europe is expensive). So, most weeks I only write a letter to Sci-Fi, UPN and/or Showtime. I suspect many people do the same.

As for newsworthy stories... yeah, I think we're newsworthy, too. But I'm not sure if these 36 people pointed out to People that this group of fans is doing some pretty amazing, highly unusual things. They probably think we're 'just another letter writing campaign', and *that*, I agree, is not that newsworthy.

marph
11-24-2002, 03:59 PM
i had asked earlier on this thread if the results of the HW poll had been posted somewhere because i was curious to know how many people had been keeping up with the to-do lists...
and i really HOPE it's more than 36!!!

Hmpf
11-24-2002, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by marph
i had asked earlier on this thread if the results of the HW poll had been posted somewhere because i was curious to know how many people had been keeping up with the to-do lists...
and i really HOPE it's more than 36!!!

It's probably more than 36 but not an impressive number, so they probably decided not to post the result so as not to discourage the easily discouraged. However, I think that no matter how high or low the number of active letter writers is, we are *still* probably the biggest and best organized fan campaign since Save Star Trek. We've been doing this for almost three months now, it's natural there will be some decrease of active participants. 36 letters to People Magazine are still pretty good - I bet they don't often get 36 letters on one subject (except for reactions to articles they did, I suppose) in a week!

Still, a little bit of explicit encouragement to write letters, maybe on the mailing list, probably couldn't hurt, either... ;-)

CMScaper
11-24-2002, 07:51 PM
IBM was on the list a few weeks ago, and both letters I sent to them were returned addressee unknown, with no forwarding address. I double checked the address on the ToDo list and it's exactly what I used, so that address is no good.

Also, when were we supposed to write People Magazine? Did I miss a list one week?

Dominar of Action
11-24-2002, 08:31 PM
Yeah, I must admit that I didn't write People either, although I've been writing my share to advertisers & networks (even sent one to Henson this week). With limited time available, I think many people are just chosing which items on the to do lists they think will have the greatest effect. (I don't really remember People being on a to do list, but could have easily missed it.)

To give you an idea of the number of people involved in the campaign (perhaps not actively on this BB, but involved all the same), I was reading Juliet Blake's (Henson) interview from late September and she said she had gotten over 5,000 emails ... and I seriously doubt a large % of us chose to email Ms. Blake. (And remember how the FoxTrot guy remarked how if Sci Fi had gotten a fraction of the e-mails he had received in the wake of his comic strip, they'd be overwhelmed?)

So, don't let the 36 number for People bug you -- I just think it wasn't high on most lists of people to write to. ::shrug::

And now, I think we've been asked to lay low for a bit to let the press release do its thing. If that doesn't get attention, then, hey, I'm all up for a weekend of concerted, polite letter-writing to a few magazines to let them know we are still here.

marph
11-25-2002, 08:23 AM
thanks, guys - you're probably right... i won't let myself get too discouraged!!

RescueFarscape
11-25-2002, 06:59 PM
Received letters back form Norelco and Clorox today. Same as the others mentioned above, but the Norelco letter was hand-signed:)

I'm glad to see some results. Hmmm, maybe I can get to a couple more letters tonight...

dwballance
11-25-2002, 10:31 PM
I just got the same reply from People Magazine. I am curious to know what others think on this:

The primary methods of mass awareness seen to be (1) mention on a national news broadcast; (2) TV ad; (3) ad in a national newspaper; (4) ad in a national magazine; (5) article in a national magazine; and (6) rallys/conventions. It seems to me that the single MOST effective of these is #5, with #1 coming in second (ok, first if the press kit push succeeds). As a youngish professional with small kids, I rarely watch TV news and don't have time to read more than headlines in the paper, but I *do* go through my magazines in entirety. (Conventions are great, but, really, they are preaching to the choir.) I'm not trying to be inflammatory, just curious if I'm onto something.

If others agree, then I think a BIG push to get 'scapers to write to a couple magazines (either to get an article in something like People, or an ad in People or Popular Science) would be the biggest bang for the buck in terms of raising awareness. We're talking millions of readers here! I suspect that a few hundred requests to People could be enough to generate an article.

Addendum: After writing this, I saw the thread that focuses on People - I guess they got a press kit, and advice is to hold off on flooding them for now. But definitely I shall keep sights on the mags!

--Dennis

aeryncrichton
11-26-2002, 12:24 AM
I got the same letter from Clorox today.....

Well, at least they called it a "quality program"! (And they spelled it right! *g*)

Lee/aeryncrichton

grapeshot
11-26-2002, 05:17 PM
Talking to fans at cons is NOT a waste. Although you generally don't have to explain Farscape to fans at Cons, they are only dimly aware of all the facts behind the cancellation. Often they have no idea of what is being done to save our show, or what they can do to help. This may not be exactly true of the fans who went to Burbank, or those going to the NYC Con, but I found it to be true of general sci-fi fans at other conventions.

dwballance
11-26-2002, 06:17 PM
True enough. Don't get me wrong - I think promoting at cons is great (I'm trying to help organize one in Sacramento as we speak) but in terms of attracting new viewers, it's a pretty small piece of the pie. Fortunately, cross-genre cons (general SciFi events, ala Dragonfest) provide a nice targeted venue for 'learnin' folks who come with a high likelihood of interest. :)

--Dennis

waltersgirl
11-26-2002, 07:23 PM
but in terms of attracting new viewers, it's a pretty small piece of the pie.

actually, i don't think that's true. con attendees are one of the key target audiences as they are already fans of "genre" product, but they may not be Farscape viewers, or they may only be casual viewers, or, they may not know that there are more eps still to air.

we cannot afford to make any assumptions or to disregard any potential viewer outreach.

JA_Shipper
11-28-2002, 02:58 PM
I have to agree with waltersgirl. Save Farscape Canada's Intrepid!Events!Crew was in Montreal the first weekend in November with t-shirts, bookmarks, buttons, flyers, and a laptop AND vcr/tv playing Farscape eps and I know we got the attention of more than just Scapers! :D (If anyone wants to see pics of our table and some of our gang, go here: http://www.corsaont.icomm.ca/images/ConCept%20Nov%202002/ or here www.savefarscapecanada.com).

As for the homework - I didn't respond because though I have been writing letters and sending postcards and such, I haven't been doing it on a regular basis, so I wasn't sure if responding "yes" would have been entirely accurate, although "no" isn't accurate, either ...

Suse

Xenajules2
11-28-2002, 07:16 PM
Maybe we should word our letters to People a little differently. Mention the impact the cancellation has had on the cast and crew. How Froon and Ben and DK have had to move back to the US. How Claud is trying to find acting in the US while Anth and Wayne have formed a band. Etc. They might see more of a story for THEM in that. Also, how about mentioning how the fans have connected with the FS people?

Jules

akimbo
11-29-2002, 03:48 PM
I think we need to give the person at People math lessons. I got one of the "I received 36 letters" responses in the mail (I admit that I don't remember sending the letter - there have been so many). There had to be more than 36 of us.

Akimbo

jadeshand
11-29-2002, 08:00 PM
when they had received 36 letters. I've got a feeling they got a lot more after that.

CMScaper
12-04-2002, 10:50 AM
I just got the People reply stating they had only gotten 36 letters. My housemate also received one. I find it hard to believe that my house was responsible for 2 of the total 36 letters. There had to be more letters sent in, right? :eek:


A while back, one of the ToDo list items was to send an email in saying that we'd been writing the letters. How many people sent in emails?

marph
12-04-2002, 04:32 PM
CMscaper-- i asked the same question a page back on this thread, but i haven't heard an answer yet.
but someone suggested that they might not have posted the ToDo results because the numbers might have been discouraging and not necessarily a good assessment of how many people are actually writing letters.

i really wish we knew if more than 36 letters reached people magazine...

Dominar of Action
12-04-2002, 05:23 PM
Well, hard to say how many they've gotten, but let's look at the evidence:

* First report of letter received - 11/23
* Latest report of letter received - 12/4

Time elapsed - 11 days (or 10 days, if discount for no mail on Thanksgiving)

So, unless someone's secretary is EXTREMELY slow and takes 11 days (assuming constant mail delivery times to all recipients) to set up a mail merge with 36 addresses, I somehow kinda doubt that's the true number. :D

marph
12-07-2002, 10:17 AM
good point, Dominar of Action!

lance
12-11-2002, 06:17 PM
Hi all,

First time posting here. I have just sent off a letter to People Magazine and Jim Henson.

Question: Any Ohio scapers here? Any from Southwest Ohio?

Lance

RescueFarscape
12-11-2002, 06:58 PM
:hi: lance!

Welcome.

harveywhispers
12-11-2002, 08:40 PM
I received the response from People & the Procter Gamble response - finally got to the bottom of the mail that had collected while I was on vacation.

Sunderflame
12-11-2002, 09:49 PM
I made up a quadrillion(well it seems like it) Save FARSCAPE Fyers and I'm sticking them in every mailbox or newpaper holder I can find. Also I'm making a outdoor signs like realtors do and putting these at various busy intersections. I live in a very Yuppy or whatever neighborhood you'd call it (pod shepole from urbanized America)....Stepford Wives, that's the ticket.....any way not your ordinary FARSCAPERS.......but then there isn't anything ordinary about us is there...CAN I Have a HELL YEAH!!!!!!! This message has no intentions of hurting any feelings or meant to step on any ones toes hummmmmm, I can't get into any trouble for this? Can I?:goof: :bigger:

RescueFarscape
12-12-2002, 01:09 PM
Received a letter back from Kraft. Same general thing: They appreciate writing, but have no control over programming(did I write anything like that in my letter?), but will pass it on to their advert people.

They mentioned FS by name:)

Eve11
12-12-2002, 01:21 PM
I sent out a letter to People magazine this past weekend, telling them who I was, what I liked about Farscape, why I'm willing to campaign to save this show as opposed to others, and what I'd done so far. I mentioned the show's respect for its fans, their use of the Internet, and the way Ben Browder sought those three LA Scapers (hi guys!) out of the crowd on Halloween for the "people" aspect.

akimbo
12-12-2002, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by RescueFarscape
Received a letter back from Kraft. Same general thing: They appreciate writing, but have no control over programming(did I write anything like that in my letter?), but will pass it on to their advert people.

They mentioned FS by name:)

Got my letter from Kraft too:
"Thank you for contacting us to express your disappointment with the cancellation of the program "Farscape" on the SciFi Channel. We appreciate your concern.

Entertainment has been very important to us since we sponsored our first hour-long programs in 1947, and today we continue to participate in proven top rated programs and specials chosen for family appeal and entertainment value.

As a participating advertiser in shows other than our own television specials, we unfortunately do not have a voice in the decision to continue or to discontinue a program.

Thank you again for contacting us, and we will share your comments with the people responsible for our advertising. We appreciate your expressing concern about this program and hope that you understand our position.
Sincerely,
Kim McMiller
Consumer Resource Manager"

I don't understand. Actually, I don't appreciate that they "don't have a voice". They have a powerful voice, they just ain't shoutin!

Akimbo

waltersgirl
12-12-2002, 08:47 PM
that's actually not inaccurate. they don't have control over the decision, they just fund what's up.

and keep in mind what, i think it was MS that said many companies don't buy shows per se, but packages of advertising. she 'splained it a bunch better though...i'll see if i can find her post for you.

be gratified that someone took the time to reply to you and that they will forward that info up.

waltersgirl
12-12-2002, 09:02 PM
i knew i could find it.


MediaSavant
Senior Member

Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Long Beach, NY
Posts: 256
I thought some people might be interested in knowing a little bit more about how advertising buys are made.

First, most advertisers have ad agencies or media agencies who do their media planning and buying for them. It's the media agency's job to determine what media are best for advertising their product and what vehicles within each medium should be bought. The agency does all the research and makes the recommendation on what to buy to the advertiser. When the advertiser agrees, the agency negotiates with the network or the magazine or whatever is going to be used.

For national broadcast and cable TV, there are two marketplaces:

1. Upfront
2. Scatter

The upfront is where the agencies negotiate big year-long deals with each network. The deals have a lot of advantages, but they do involve a yearlong commitment to buy time on that network. The time is bought for a year that begins in 4th Quarter and ends in 3rd quarter of the following year. The negotiations for these deals begin around Memorial Day and end during the Summer.

Many of the advertisers you are contacting cut their deals with SciFi last Summer and are committed to them through next Summer. "Upfront" is how most of the time is sold.

As you can imagine, these longterm deals only vaguely involve knowing what the actual programming is going to be on each network since that is a very volatile thing.

This is why a "Kia" knew that they were advertising on SciFi and Farscape through next quarter and beyond.

The other marketplace "scatter" occurs during the year for advertisers who didn't want to or couldn't commit. Often the prices are higher and inventory fluctuates based on supply and demand. Those are the disadvantages of scatter buying.

If you are seeing a big major advertiser on TV, the chances are that the spot you are seeing was negotiated a long time beforehand in the upfront market.

Hopefully, this explanation of how business is conducted will help you understand some of the responses you are getting a bit better.

akimbo
12-12-2002, 09:08 PM
Point taken about controlling the decision waltersgirl, but they can exert influence just by where they advertise and stating what shows/channels they're interested in advertising on. My point is saying they don't have a voice contradicts the influence implied in the previous paragraph.

Kraft made specific points in the letter about "participating in proven top rated programs" "entertainment value" etc. which implies they take interest in where they advertise and why. They even sponsor their own quality programming. They opened that door not me.

Though I'm glad they took the time to appreciate my concern, I just hope they appreciate my position that the letter is muddled and feels a bit patronizing.

Or I'm just a little grumpy today. :)

Akimbo

CMScaper
12-23-2002, 03:13 PM
I received a basically anonymous thanks for writing response from Norelco. They'll forward my opinions to the appropriate department. Couldn't even type the word Farscape in there anywhere. :(

lance
12-27-2002, 12:38 PM
Hey all,

Last week I sent in my letter to Mark at Sci Fi. I am encouraged that some of you are actually getting replies to your letters, even if they are form letters.

To date I have received nothing: from Sci Fi, UPN, Showtime or the WB:(

Has anyone heard anything from UPN, Showtime or the WB?

Best,

Lance Man

harveywhispers
12-27-2002, 04:31 PM
networks & really haven't expected to as they do their "thing" behind closed doors & seldom like to keep the rabble informed.

**No news is good news.

akimbo
12-27-2002, 07:11 PM
Received a letter from Norelco, too - amazing they didn't take the time to put the show in the letter.

Also got one from Proctor & Gamble. Nothing exciting in that one either. But it is a reply! :)

RescueFarscape
12-27-2002, 08:06 PM
Letter from Proctor & Gamble:

"Thanks for contacting P&G.

"Blah, blah, blah.

"Thanks for writing."

Well, they did write back;)

grapeshot
12-27-2002, 08:09 PM
I got the usual response from Best Buy.

However, I also got a reply from Orkin. It said thank you and blah blah blah. But they also sent a coupon for services. (I had promised to consider hiring their services for my ant infestation...which I'll be dealing with when the snow melts!)

RescueFarscape
12-27-2002, 08:15 PM
A coupon! You lucky devil...

:devil:

grapeshot
12-27-2002, 08:37 PM
LOL!! Would rather have had them promise to sponsor a new season!!

Harvey'schurl
01-03-2003, 06:18 PM
Heard from people magazine. They said they've only had 98 letters. So the cancellatio of Farscape and this campaign still isn't news worthy enough. I think we should get people from other cancel shows to write to them to sell the angle of all these shows getting cancelled (witchblade, Firefly Farscape etc). Come on thses cancellations have made CNN and newspapers but its not big enough for People.

lance
01-04-2003, 09:44 AM
Harvey'schurl,

Yeah I got the same letter. Do we have idea of how many people actually are responding to each of these to-do-lists? I have the sort of dread filled feeling that the same 98 people are participating in each endeavor.

Lance Man

BritAngie
01-04-2003, 10:34 AM
*counting* the letters says alot! I think it's more than 98..I'm betting they can't be bothered to retype it each time they get more..

deweytoo
01-06-2003, 02:17 PM
I got a letter back from S.C. Johnson today. It said

Thank you for writing us about "Farscape." Like you, I am a big fan of the Sci-Fi Channel {I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE GOT THIS IDEA} and I appreciate your interest in keeping a favorite show on the air. Star Trek is one of my personal favorites.

I can tell you that we do intend to keep advertising S.C. Johnson products on Sci-Fi, and current plans are for our commercials to air during "Farscape" through its run. I am sure you understand that advertisers have no control over network content or schedules.

We wish you and other "Farscape" fans success in your efforts to keep the show alive,

Regards,
Fisk Johnson

It looks like a personal signature and he does wish us luck.:)

Dominar of Action
01-06-2003, 03:22 PM
That does sound very personal. It sounded to me like he meant he was a fan of science fiction, not the SFC per se, and someone took the time to write up a special "FS" letter. The bit about advertisers not having any control over programming does have me a bit puzzled, though, unless he feels Johnson is small potatoes in terms of its advertising budget.

harveywhispers
01-06-2003, 04:07 PM
too , & I must say that it is one of the more upbeat/personal responses that I have received in quite a bit (& I think that it is an actual signature).

**Also of note is that H. Fisk Johnson is the Chairman.

akimbo
01-06-2003, 04:43 PM
I got the same letter from SC Johnson today.

It does look like a real signature, but as harveywhispers noticed H. Fisk Johnson (whom the letterhead says the letter is from) is the Chairman.

I can't imagine he'd sign all these - but it looks like he dictated it though if the marks at the bottom of the page are accurate :)

Hmmmm. That's interesting and it was written to sound very personalized. I'm impressed.

Dominar of Action
01-06-2003, 08:02 PM
Oh, don't assume he didn't sign them personally just because he's the Chairman. Having worked with plenty of senior execs of large companies, I can tell you that it's the execs who set the tone for the rank and file. If a company values its customers highly and wants its employees to do the same, the practice begins in the corner offices. And I'm sure Mr. Johnson sets aside a block of time every day to do nothing but sign letters, so signing these for Farscape fans who took the time to write in would not be a big problem.

akimbo
01-06-2003, 08:06 PM
That would be even cooler, thanks DoA - I've worked in way too many organizations where that wouldn't happen so I'm a bit jaded.
:)

grapeshot
01-06-2003, 09:34 PM
I agree with DoA! I've worked in many corporations, too, and you can believe that the behavior in the top office filters down! Good OR Bad!

(There are a few "good" CEO's out there, but on the other hand, Enron didn't surprise me much!)

Kempers_Babe
01-09-2003, 08:02 AM
To my wonderful Scaper Friends,
I wanted to share that I also heard back from People, same date and number of people as every letter stated - 98. Here are my thoughts:

I too am afraid that it is us same 98 people who are writing letters, and not more. I believe this because when I read the notice about writing to People, it was the most promising thing that had come across during the whole campaign. I mean wow! they basically said to send them enough letters and they'd do a story. I figured that whoever on the mailing list who hadn't been writing letters would surely do so for this. So actually, the 98 people might even be a high number.

So my suggestion is to get tougher. Get a bit more pushy in your mailings. Spell out exactly what people should say for them to cut and paste or for them to use the text word for word in their hand written letters just to get more people to write letters. Like SCAPERS! EVERYONE RECEIVING THIS MUST WRITE AT LEAST THE FOLLOWING WORDS TO (so and so) RIGHT NOW AND SEND IT OUT. Then you would add other suggestions. I think people need to be pushed somehow.

It’s just a thought. I am writing weekly. I am indeed one of the 98.

Heartsick for Farscape Forever,
Ellie aka Kemper’s Babe

Dominar of Action
01-09-2003, 08:57 AM
Ellie, don't be discouraged. Don't take the 98 number as an absolute.

First of all, we've had plenty of anecdotal evidence that the recipients of our peculiar brand of Scaper love are overwhelmed by its volume. :D

Second of all, can't you imagine a timeline like this:

1) First letters start coming into People in September.
2) PR assistant is asked to respond to said letters, looks around and says, "gee, we've gotten 36 letters so far" and promptly plugs that number into the mail merge document to be used to generate the form letters.
3) As letters continue to come in, their names are added to the mail merge source list, but PR assistant doesn't bother to change the form letter itself used to generate the responses.
4) Upon receiving the 98th letter, said PR assistant realizes that the "36 letters" reference looks pretty silly and updates it to say "98."
5) Letters continue to come in and names are added to the mailing list, but the form letter is not updated.

So, I'd be willing to bet good money that they've received significantly more than 98 letters. And I'd be willing to bet that the volume they've received for Farscape is greater than what they've received for many other topics/shows they do choose to cover. They are probably as influenced by the ratings as anyone else, though, and so we won't see a story there unless the ratings show a big jump.

Just my two cents.

Wolli World
01-09-2003, 01:34 PM
I think that's a good idea! Tell me what you're saying, and I'll write People a letter too!

Moge
01-10-2003, 08:38 AM
I just noticed this People thread. Can someone point me to the right contact details at People? I'll be sure to send them a letter!

Moge :aok:

Kempers_Babe
01-10-2003, 09:52 AM
This is the information sent out in the SaveFarscape email To Do list for December 6th. Martha Nelson is the woman who responded to the letter I sent which stated that she had only received 98 letters as of December 29th and it was not enough for them to do a story.

THE TO TO LIST LETTER FROM COFAX
First, we'd like you to write a letter to People Magazine. They're showing some interest, but they'll need a lot more than the 36 letters they've gotten so far to convince them it's a story worth covering. If you have time for nothing else, please, make time to do this over the next week or so. Be sincere, be fun, be original. Tell them about yourself, what you've done, and why it's so important to you to save Farscape. Talk about how the internet has affected both the campaign and your relationship to the show -- that's the angle all the media are interested in. (If you must refer to Sci-Fi Channel, be polite. *grin*)

Martha Nelson, Managing Editor
People Magazine
1271 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10020-1300
Fax: 212-522-0794
Email: editor@people.com

TheGhost
01-13-2003, 06:40 PM
Just to let you guys know

I sent an e-mail to HP after "Kansas" and today I got a response from Carly Fiona. It was a short message, but the messages are getting to them so keep it up guys!!!!

TheGhost
01-13-2003, 07:10 PM
Just to let you guys know

I sent an e-mail to HP after "Kansas" and today I got a response from Carly Fiona. It was a short message, but the messages are getting to them so keep it up guys!!!!

anomia
01-15-2003, 02:44 PM
Clorox wasn't specifically on the to-do list, but I did send them an email as one of the sponsors of "Kansas". Their reply:

Dear Ms. (real name):

Thank you for your recent letter about the Sci-Fi program "Farscape".
We appreciate your loyalty to a quality program like this and also
appreciate your loyalty to our products.

The Clorox Company will remain committed to quality broadcasting and we
will continue to support programming that adheres to our programming
guidelines.

Sincerely,

Mary Brylinski
Product Specialist

MEB/GMV

rorykearn
01-17-2003, 07:05 PM
Hey everyone,

I did the to-do list for "Kansas" and wrote or emailed every sponsor I could get to. Today in my email box I got nice emails from Long John Silvers, Clorox, Visa Check card and Charmin (I think it was them). They were all really nice letters thanking me for noticing their advertisement and letting me know that they have heard from Farscape fans and appreciate our devotion to the show.

I'm not at home, at a friend's and don't have access to me email right now, so I can't paste any emails in, but I wanted to write and let everyone know...we're being heard.

Rory

Woody Woodstock
01-19-2003, 07:07 PM
Sorry to put a question in this thread, my head is beginning to pound from reading this screen all day, I started at 11 am this morning, and it is 9 pm...

I would like to get involved in hard copy snail mail to do lists and the email to do lists. I realize that they are probably posted very clearly somewhere, but I cannot find them.

Could some one briefly overview it and send me a link.

Also, are we writing all the people involved in the show at Sci-fi and other networks to indicate we would be loyal veiwers if they picked it up, as well as every sponser that airs an ad in each show?

Thanks.

Dominar of Action
01-19-2003, 07:30 PM
Welcome to the insanity, Woody. We need fresh meat ....errrr.... you know what I mean ;)

To get on the mailing list for Fi's To Do lists (which are also posted on the home page of this site - www.watchfarscape.com and then archived in the older news section), go to yahoogroups.com and subscribe/join the SaveFarscapeAnnouncements group. As for your other question, we have been writing to Bonnie Hammer, Tom Vitale, and more recently Mark Stern at Sci Fi

Bonnie Hammer, President
bhammer@usanetworks.com

Thomas Vitale, Senior Vice President
Acquisitions, Scheduling, and Program Planning
tvitale@usanetworks.com

Mark Stern, Executive Vice President
Programming
mark.stern@unistudios.com

Mailing address:
The Sci-Fi Channel
1230 Avenue of the Americas, F115
New York, NY 10220-1513

Phones:
Switchboard: 212-413-5000
Extensions = the first letters/numbers of the last name
Programming Phone: (212) 413-5821
Comment Line: (212) 413-5577
New Comment Line: 212-413-5679

Faxes:
212-413-6531
212-413-6522
212-413-6503

Other Email addresses:
scifiweekly @ scifi.com
program @ www.scifi.com
feedback @ www.scifi.com
series @ usanetwork.com


And Barry Diller:

Barry Diller, Chairman & CEO
USA Networks
152 West 57th Street
New York, NY 10019


We are also currently writing to Kevin Levy at UPN:

Kevin Levy
Senior Vice-President, Schedule & Acquisitions
United Paramount Network (UPN)
11800 Wilshire Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90025


As for advertisers, we're trying to write as many as we can ... see the posted thread for each episode.

Hope this helps! :bounce:

aeryncrichton
01-20-2003, 07:48 PM
I got an e-mail back from HP, too.... Very generic, but here it is:

Thank you for your kind comments and feedback. We very much appreciate
them.

Sincerely,

HP Executive Communications


Better than nothing, I suppose. :)

Sunderflame
01-21-2003, 03:51 PM
Ms. Karla Hawk
15011 Oakridge Road
Carmel, IN 46032

Dear Ms. Hawk:

Thank you for your recent letter about the Sci-Fi program "Farscape". We appreciate your loyalty to a quality program like this and
also appreciate your loyalty to our products.

The Clorox Company will remain committed to quality broadcasting and we will continue to support programming that adheres to
our programming guidelines.

Sincerely,

Mary Brylinski
Product Specialist

MEB/GMV


3436772A

I received this from Clorox today. BIG Smile

harveywhispers
01-21-2003, 04:35 PM
Got one from the Henson Company today:

Dear (real me),

Thank you for your continued interest in Farscape. There are currently no plans for a Fifth Season to be produced.

Fans have continued to inquire about how they can help save Farscape. With the final new episodes of season four about to air on SCI FI Channel, we at the Jim Henson Company feel that the best way to support the show would be to tune-in and watch these last 11 epsidoes beginning on January 10, 2003 in the new timeslot of 8:00 PM ET/PT.

For more information, visit www.farscape.com

Regards,
The Jim Henson Company

**Nothing new - I did love how they were called the last 11 of season four.

fialka
01-21-2003, 09:03 PM
This was forwarded to me, by KCopp. It's the response she received from HP:

>
> We thank you for your support of HP and our decision to advertise on the
> Sci-Fi channel, and more specifically, Farscape. We have communicated
to
> the station the tremendous feedback we have received from fans such as
> yourself. Thanks again for your interest in HP.
>
> Best,
> Meredith Brace
> Media Program Manager
> Hewlett-Packard

harveywhispers
01-25-2003, 02:43 PM
Got the paper resonse from Quaker today.

LadySakura
01-25-2003, 05:31 PM
They have a DUNE TV SERIES in the UK! @set me=maximum envy

littulkittons
01-26-2003, 08:56 AM
Got a response from ConAgra by email today.

Dear Cindy:

Thank you for the compliment! We think our Orville Redenbacher's\ Smart Pop
Kettle Korn Microwave Popping Corn is great and it's nice to know you agree
with us. Comments like yours make us try even harder.

I am passing your compliment on to our Marketing Division since I know they
will be pleased with your nice comments too.

We appreciate you letting us know about this. To thank you for your kind
words, I will send out a cents-off coupon to you at the address you
provided.

Sincerely,
Renee Beneke
Consumer Affairs
ConAgra Snack Foods, Specialty Snacks

scape_sister
01-27-2003, 11:55 PM
I've recieved responses from Mitsubishi, Best Buy, and People Magazine. But this is the first one I've gotten by email today. In the email I told them I mailed them a letter with upc's also, which was sent off a couple of days ago.

Dear Mrs. Smith:

Thank you for contacting General Mills. We appreciate your comments regarding our advertising for General Mills products. The information you provided will be carefully reviewed with our marketing and advertising team. We hope you continue to enjoy our products.

Sincerely,
Eric Metzer
General MillsConsumer Services

Sounds hopeful, since it will be carefully reviewed by their marketing and advertising teams.

Better than that blah, blah, blah stuff.

kcopp
01-29-2003, 01:33 PM
Well I'm completely stunned. Scifi weekly printed the letter I wrote to them this week. I've been diligently writing my 3 letters to SFC, 5 emails, and 3 faxes. And they printed it!

http://www.scifi.com/sfw/current/letters.html

kc

scape_sister
01-29-2003, 10:39 PM
Here's another email response. I don't know who Ori is (no title, or last name), but it sounds as if he took appropriate measures so that Quaker Oats will look into it!

RE: Old Fashioned Quaker Oats , REF.# 4609830A

Hello Sarah:

Thank you for contacting us about Old Fashioned Quaker Oats.

Comments about our advertising and the air time that we buy are important to us.
They affirm our standards regarding the types of television programs we sponsor.
There are many ways of measuring success, but none are as satisfying as hearing
directly from you.

Your point of view is important to us. We have shared your comments with our
Marketing and Advertising staffs for consideration as future advertisements are
planned.

Ori

=============================================
I am writing to thank you for advertising on the episode #412 of the television
series Farscape, on the Sci-Fi Channel. Please consider contacting UPN or the
Sci-Fi Channel about advertising on a fifth season of Farscape. You will also
receive a letter from me in the mail soon. My family has been relying on your
Old Fashioned Oatmeal since I was little and now with my own family. We
appreciate an affordable, healthy breakfast alternative like your product.
Please consider our request and we will continue to buy your quality foods.
Thank you,

Sarah Smith and Family
www.watchfarscape.com
EMAIL*MESSAGE*END


Thumbs up people!

scape_sister
01-29-2003, 11:01 PM
HP email response:

Dear Sarah:

Thank you for taking the time to send HP your comments. They have been forwarded to the appropriate people within Hewlett-Packard for their information or action. Should more clarification or information be needed, you may be contacted directly.

Your input is important to us and very much appreciated.

Sincerely,

HP Executive Communications

Original Message Follows:
-------------------------
This is a message to HP's CEO, Carly Fiorina, from a valued customer: Sarah Smith.

Message:

Hello, I am writing to thank you for sponsoring and advertising on the television series Farscape on the Sci-Fi Channel. Please consider contacting UPN or the Sci-Fi Channel (or both) about advertising on a fifth season of Farscape. I recently purchased a hpdeskjet656c printer. Now after working out some installation kinks, it works great.
I am also part of a group called Pacific Northwest Farscape Fans. We held a food drive to benefit the Oregon Food Bank. Admittance to view episodes of the series Farscape was a donation of a non-perishable food item.

Individually I have written letters, emailed, and phoned many people to try to renew Farscape for it's fifth season. This is like no other television series I know and it deserves to have it's once promised fifth season. Please consider me and my whole family's request, and we will continue to buy your quality products.

Thank you,

Sarah Smith and Family
www.watchfarscape.com

(I removed our demographics for privacy)

I am a valued customer! They may contact me directly!
Good thing I threw in the watchfarscape url!

This is good news! Wink, Wink!

Selena
01-31-2003, 10:33 AM
Just a suggestion folks ... how about going to the following NBC site and in the drop down box select "Suggest a Guest" and ask for Jay to feature Ben Browder on his show. As an interest point mention Ben has been filming in Australia for 4 years.

If many of us requested Ben, Jay may start asking "Who is this person and why are so many people asking for him to be a guest on the show?"

http://www.nbc.com/nbc/The_Tonight_Show_with_Jay_Leno/feedback

:D

B Sharp
01-31-2003, 10:38 AM
received from a spy inside HP!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
B,

I met with Meredith Brace yesterday about FarScape.

Meredith said that sending letters through the "email Carly" channel is appropriate. However, she was amazed at the number of letters and one way to help her would be to organize the drive, possibly by sending one letter from all individuals (similar to a petition) rather than "spamming". In addition, this focal point could be used as a 2-way conduit for information flow.

Meredith did say that the information and concerns expressed in the emails was sent on to the proper people. I don't remember if it is the local affiliate, the sci-fi channel directly, etc. Meredith has not yet heard anything back. She will work to disseminate any information that she can back to the group. She isn't sure on the best way yet, so I suggested possibly posting something to the group's site... she did receive the site information and has been out to it. also, if there were a "focal point", that might be another option.

Meredith is amazed at the passion of the group for this show...

I hope this helps.

S
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Can I get a HELL YEAH?

Dominar of Action
01-31-2003, 11:01 AM
HELL FRELLING YEAH!!

I especially liked this part:However, she was amazed at the number of lettersThat should answer the question for anyone wondering whether many people are still doing the to-do lists :D

Wolli World
01-31-2003, 02:04 PM
That's great B! So, how do we want to organize all the letters?

B Sharp
01-31-2003, 02:57 PM
I'm thinking the best way to do this is to:

1. Get a volunteer to take all the info we've got on demographics, etc. as well as the info in the note I received.

2. Have the volunteer put together a new letter/email, listing people and demographic info, then send a note to Meredith with ALL of it included. In this email, include some personal contact info so that Meredith can speak directly to our representative, and pass info back/forth about our effort. I'd also suggest we send Meredith the press kit, or some version of it...

B Sharp
01-31-2003, 03:00 PM
err, let me add one more thing:

to get all that demo information, I'm not sure how we can really get a real representation of us all...I thought about a poll, or a new thread, but I think that both have been tried before- an idea I think is worth considering is to ask in a To-Do list to respond to a new thread to collect that info?

Any other ideas on how to do this?

Also- although I do have contacts and will definitely help, I think the volunteer should be someone who does not work for HP- the best bet would be someone who had done some marketing work in the past, and can speak demographic/advertising speak...

blue
01-31-2003, 03:10 PM
Selena-this is such a good idea--how about starting a new thread for it so more people will see it?
"Just a suggestion folks ... how about going to the following NBC site and in the drop down box select "Suggest a Guest" and ask for Jay to feature Ben Browder on his show. As an interest point mention Ben has been filming in Australia for 4 years.

If many of us requested Ben, Jay may start asking "Who is this person and why are so many people asking for him to be a guest on the show?"

http://www.nbc.com/nbc/The_Tonight_...y_Leno/feedback"
I just sent them an email with the suggestion of Ben and that fans of the show had paid for the Variety cover on Feb 3rd-that they should take a look.

blue
01-31-2003, 03:17 PM
With regard to HP-look at the progression of their replies on this thread--While the last one is great, I would not want them to stop getting any mail from viewers on this subject except for a single communication with a list--It might make it easier for them to handle, but not as compelling--not everyone will want to sign the list with personal info that might be posted somewhere--and the volume of mail they see should be about fans of the show everywhere, not just those who have organized throught this site. It speaks louder if it is coming from everywhere and not all organized through a central place, doesn't it?

B Sharp
01-31-2003, 03:48 PM
blue- re HP

I think ypu've got some great points, but I wasn't thinking my suggestion was an "instead of"- I was thinking of it as an "addition to"-

The problem on the other end is that you've got one person overwhelmed with input- and she needs (in order to get higher mgmt attention) some way to see what the overall picture looks like, which helps to put the emails we're sending in perspective.

I know that there's a privacy issue ( I certainly feel it!), but any sort of personal contact we could make that helps make a new friend would help

My dream scenario: After we gain an HP friend that will speak on our behalf to the right people (because we provide a personal contact, and some summary demographic info) that maybe, just maybe- Ms Fiorina might call Ms Hammer, they talk about the challenges they face as powerful execs, and some advice is offered about a way out of the fiasco Ms Hammer has created for herself.

Dominar of Action
01-31-2003, 04:18 PM
Fortunately, there's no need to reinvent the wheel on this. The SF.com team has the information you need, I believe.

1) There have been at least two separate enumerators, one of which was sponsored by this site. I may be mistaken, but I recall that they both had a few thousand unique respondents. You may be able to find it by doing a search for posts with the word "enumerator" in them.

2) Also, I'm pretty sure the SF.com team has several professional marketing types available to handle queries. Check the front page of this site for some of their recent press releases and you'll see the media/contact person at the bottom. I think it's Jul (sfmedia@watchfarscape.com) and/or Red (spooky@watchfarscape.com).

Definitely hook up the HP people with the link to the online press kit -- http://www.scaperoute.com/savefarscape/onlinekit/campaign/sfmain.html

akimbo
01-31-2003, 05:13 PM
Here's the two enumerators, the links still work.

This one has lots of info and questions
http://www.geocities.com/chemicalshift1812/
or
http://www.hostultra.com/~Oasun/

This one is from September
http://divinecollective.bitchenvy.com/demographics.rtf

Is this sufficient information for the HP contact?

Akimbo

Edited to add the FMD Threads:
http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6779
http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5175
http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5261

B Sharp
01-31-2003, 07:07 PM
Thanks, that's more than enough! :) ... now if I can just someone to be the official contact....time to write more email!

SerenaBlack
01-31-2003, 09:52 PM
Hi all!
I'm very new to the Save Farscape Campaign, having only found out about the cancellation last month! (Yes I have been disconnected from society)
So far, I've been able to convince 4 co-workers to watch the show! :D

Here's my question:
I want to write letters but I am very bad with words and very inexperienced with writing letters to businesses. I need suggestions and guidelines on what to say and how to say it.

E-mail me if you can help: CallistaZM@yahoo.com

Thank you!
Serena =)

akimbo
02-01-2003, 08:12 AM
Welcome to the Board SerenaBlack and welcome to the world of writing Farscape letters. Here is some information just on this website:

If you look back through the todo lists, lots of hints and tips are given:
http://www.watchfarscape.com/news/category.php?newstype=8

They identify who to write to, what to say, etc. The primary objective is to let them know that you exist, what your demographics are (so they know a little about who you are) and that you want Farscape Season 5 and to be polite. It'll only take a few minutes to page through a few lists and get the idea, I promise.

There are some sample letters, from early in the campaign, I think, so we have a lot more information to put in the letters now.
http://www.watchfarscape.com/campaign/letters.php


There is also an online press kit that has great media quotes and campaign and show information all in one place. DominarOfAction has the link a few posts up.

Here's what I do:
I use handwritten letters, primarily to the networks, because they have more impact and if they were all handwritten my fingers would fall off
I keep the letter to one side of one page.
I always include my demographics.
I speak from the heart and throw in a few statistics to back up my heart.
I'm always polite - well almost always, there was that one letter ;)

Good luck and keep writing.

Akimbo

CoachieSmooth
02-01-2003, 04:26 PM
Just got a response today:

"Thank you for taking time to contact Nestle USA, Hand-Held Foods Group, manufacturer of the frozen HOT POCKETS brand sandwiches. We appreciate hearing from consumers regarding any questions or comments about our advertising.

It is especially nice to hear from consumers who have enjoyed our HOT POCKETS brand sandwiches. We are a company focused on a mission of providing our consumers with the highest quality product possible and the most satisfying consumer experience possible. Our entire team strives to achieve and maintain the very highest standards.

Again, thank you for your comments. Enclosed is a coupon for our sandwiches with our compliments.

Sincerely,
Gail Stuart
Consumer Affairs Manager"

I went through their website to send my comments.

LiLOrion
02-01-2003, 04:30 PM
"I am responding on behalf of Ian Friendly to your recent letter regarding the cancellation of Farscape on the Sci-Fi Channel.

I appreciate your kind words regarding our decision to advertise our products during this program. Unfortunately, the various networks do not consult advertisers when they make their decisions whether to air or cancel programming. We are merely offered blocks of advertising slots for purchase and then select those programs that we beleive will appeal to our various products' consumers.

Replacing one show with another does not guarantee the network that existing advertising in the time slot will still be there. In all likelihood, should Farscape be picked up by UPN or another network, our advertising will follow the program, depending upon the time slots provided, etc. As a result, your petition to continue the program should be directed to the networks themselves.

I wish you the best in your efforts to keep Farscape in production in the future."

Best regards,

Jeffrey N. Hagen (he personally signed it)
Director, Consumer Services
GM, World Headquarters
P.O. Box 1113
Minneapolis, MN 55440


I didn't see this listed before so I added it. At least he took the time to mention the show and personally sign it.

Dominar of Action
02-01-2003, 04:36 PM
In all likelihood, should Farscape be picked up by UPN or another network, our advertising will follow the program, depending upon the time slots provided, etc. I liked this part ;) Why not send a copy to UPN? Wouldn't hurt.

BritAngie
02-02-2003, 02:38 AM
LilOrion-or *someone*,anyone-send a copy of that letter to other networks to see that some advertisers are loyal to the *show* not necesarily the channel it's on.. ;) That we have some advertisers who would follow where the show went!

LiLOrion
02-02-2003, 06:43 AM
It'll go out in the mail Monday!


I'm hoping more people get letters like this from him and do the same. I don't think General Mills was on the "to do" or not; I have been writing almost all of the advertisers listed.

SerenaBlack
02-02-2003, 09:40 PM
Dangit, I wrote a letter out, but I was just barely able to keep it to BOTH sides of one page...I guess I just have a lot to say.....
Serena.....

Riverstyxx
02-03-2003, 12:59 PM
Got a response from Quaker:

"Thank you for contacting us about the Quaker Oats Company. Comments about our advertising and the air time that we buy are important to us. They affirm our standards regarding the types of television programs we sponsor. There are many ways of measuring success, but none are as satisfying as hearing directly from you. Your point of view is important to us. We have shared your comments with our marketing and advertising staffs for consideration as future advertisements are planned."

WOOHOO! (my first reply *dances a fancy jig*)

harveywhispers
02-03-2003, 06:02 PM
Got a response from Hershey Foods:

Dear (real me):

We appreciate your taking the time to contact us regarding advertising. Your letter to Lori Klucker has been referred to my attention for a reply.

Your comments about our advertising program are of importances to us. Hershey works hard to assure that our commercials and advertisements are of the highest quality. Consumer Relations works closely with our Marketing Department to keep them informed of what our consumers like and dislike. The comments you have shared will be forwarded to our Marketing Department.

Your interest in our company is appreciated.

Cindy Skinner
Consumer Representative

scape_sister
02-03-2003, 11:13 PM
Received two letters today from Hershey Foods and General Mills. Same as the ones listed earlier. I will send a copy of the letter to UPN with that part of the letter highlighted!

Great idea!!!!

dax0402
02-08-2003, 02:43 PM
Received a response letter today from General Mills. Short and sweet but the sentence "The information you provided will be carefully reviewed with our marketing and advertising team." sounds a little hopeful.

dax

Digger
02-13-2003, 02:37 PM
Finally got a response to one of my letters. It's the same one from Quaker Oats that has been mentioned here before. Ok, so only one response from 20-30 letters. Not great (heck, I had a better rate of return from magazines when I was still submitting original fiction for publication) but it's a start.

Urbandream
02-17-2003, 01:44 PM
I'm not much of a letter writer so I went on CDW's site and wrote them a letter through mediarelations@cdw.com and got the following response:

My name is Jennifer and I work in CDW's Marketing/Advertising department. I was forwarded your email from our media relations group and just wanted to send you a heartfelt thank you on behalf of CDW for taking the time to write such a nice note. We were thrilled to hear your wonderful feedback on our 'Farscape' sponsorship.

Thank you again and warm regards,


Jennifer Mancini
National Media Program Manager
CDW Computer Centers, Inc.

Her direct email address is jmancini@cdw.com

B Sharp
02-17-2003, 01:52 PM
cool, Urbandream!

I'll add this address to the list on the advertisers thread- maybe she'd like a few more nice letters?

B.

blue
02-20-2003, 04:42 PM
I just got a letter from People Magazine dated Feb 14, 2003:

"Thanks for your letter to me about Farscape. I have received many letters on this subject and I appreciate your heartfelt plea, but we can't yet see a story here for People. (I am enclosing a copy of our review one year ago, however.) If your grass-roots campaign continues to build, keep us informed.

All best of luck. You're among a very passionate group of fans.

Sincerely, Martha J. Nelson


Enclosed:
March 26, 2001 ISSUE
SECTION: PICKS & PANS; pg. 29
HEADLINE: Tube
BYLINE: Terry Kelleher

Farscape Sci Fi Channel (Fridays, 9 p.m. ET)

According to Sci Fi Channel publicity, "it is never too late to join the adventure" of Farscape. I decided to test this claim by jumping straight into the first two episodes (March 16 and 23) of this thickly plotted series' third season. In minutes I was muttering, "What the frell?!" (That's the show's all-purpose expletive.) So I took a time-out for some research and learned that American astronaut John Crichton (Ben Browder) and a bunch of alien fugitives are taking the biomechanical spaceship Moya through the Uncharted Territories.
John is a brash flyboy type quick with the pop-culture references--except when he's being tortured by Scorpius (Wayne Pygram), a hybrid alien in S&M regalia. Scorpius is the sort of villain who really gets into your head--last season he planted a clone of himself in John's brain--and Pygram plays him with Mephistophelian relish. As if his hate-hate relationship with Scorpius weren't stressful enough, John has been doing a long sexual-tension dance with Aeryn Sun (Cluadia Black), a striking shipmate who looks like an earthling but is actually Sebacean. (Sounds like a skin condition, though hers looks A-OK.) The series also features animatronic creatures--notably the sluglike ex-monarch Rygel XVI--and solid special effects. It's diverting, if you can follow it.
Bottom Line: Far-out

waltersgirl
02-20-2003, 05:49 PM
at least they took the "we've only gotten 32 letters" line out of the reply.

Hmpf
02-20-2003, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by blue
If your grass-roots campaign continues to build, keep us informed.


Hmmm... how does she define 'continue to build'?

I'd say that around ten new members for Frell Me Dead per day shows pretty clearly that we *are* continuing to build...

blue
02-20-2003, 07:13 PM
Well, she's gone from 36 to 98 to "many" letters. At least they stopped counting. Maybe she hasn't gotten enough yet, with information about how the campaign is continuing to grow...

akimbo
02-20-2003, 07:47 PM
Lovely ;) response from Post's website contact info:

"Thanks for visiting our Web site. We appreciate your interest in our advertising.

Our advertising campaigns for this year have been budgeted and final approvals have been
submitted. Each year we receive a large number of requests from individuals and groups seeking
our support. While we recognize the worthiness of these requests, we aren't able to support all of
the endeavors presented to us.

We hope you can understand our position and we're sorry we can't help you at this time. Please
add our site to your bookmarks, and visit us again soon! "

Eek gawd!

koas
02-21-2003, 01:31 PM
I am new here... I wrote a couple letters this week, most of which were unanswered. Except for Showtime gave me this response:

Thank you for your comments. We value all the comments we receive and we're glad you took the time to share your opinions with us. I am forwarding your email to the programming department, as they should be aware of the strong viewer support of this show.

Also in the attempt to get some news coverage, anyone thought of wired magazine? It may not be the most popular magazine but I think this is right up its ally. I will try and get an address, for you guys.


I got a form you can submit news tips to.
http://www.wired.com/news/feedback/mail/1,2330,3,00.html

scape_sister
02-21-2003, 01:57 PM
Koas,

Welcome fellow scaper! Thanks for your post! So far, I don't know if anyone has received a response from Showtime yet. Maybe my memory fails me, but I love the part about letting their programming department know about the strong viewership for the show. This is great news!

Getting out pen and paper.....Dear Showtime, about those viewers....

scape_sis:P :aok: :D :)

jondbrien
02-21-2003, 07:34 PM
I too received an identical response from Showtime.

harveywhispers
02-24-2003, 04:10 PM
Just got our responses from Showtime (roped a few other people into doing it) - same as what others have posted - glad that they are still looking at them.

blue
02-24-2003, 04:20 PM
Or that they have set up an automatic response when they detect a keyword-Farscape--
I sent them something with attachments to several people, got back the same reply as others have in a first reply, and got a doubling of it (the same response 2 times underneath each other) in a second reply, as if it were an automatic response.

harveywhispers
02-24-2003, 05:57 PM
Wel, I just meant that I'm glad that some kind of response came through at all.

Wolli World
02-24-2003, 08:24 PM
Yep, I got the same response too, but if they did set up an automatic response, the good news is that means they got enough emails about it to warrant setting up an automatic response. I never got anything from the emails I used to send them. This is a relatively new development. Automatic or not, I think this is good news! :D

Selena
02-25-2003, 03:17 PM
E-mailed Ford, Gillette and Serta ... have received the stock "thank you for contacting us we will get back to you" reply so far, but that's more than I've received from Skiffy and all the other companies I've written to in 5 months.

Incidentally, the last time I wrote to Skiffy I did not mention Farscape by name at all ... I just referred to it as my favorite TV show that airs at 7pm and 11pm central time on Friday nights. Wonder if that makes it through their 'filters'?

blue
03-01-2003, 05:56 PM
Just heard from Clorox Consumer Services:

"Feb. 25, 2003
Thank you for your recent letter about the Sci-Fi program "Farscape". We appreciate your loyalty to a quality program like this and also appreciate your loyalty to our products.
The Clorox Company will remain committed to quality broadcasting and we will continue to support programming that adheres to our programming guidlines.
Sincerely, Mary Brylinski
Product Specialist"

SabaceanBabe
03-03-2003, 10:55 AM
Here's the response I just got to an email I had sent to the Jim Henson Company a week or so ago:

Dear Farscape Fan,

Thank you for your continued interest in Farscape. There are currently no plans for a Fifth Season to be produced. Fans have continued to inquire about how they can help save Farscape. With the final new episodes of season four about to air on SCI FI Channel, we at The Jim Henson Company feel that the best way to support the show would be to tune-in and watch the last 11 episodes which began on January 10th 2003 in the new time slot of 8:00pm ET/PT. The finale will broadcast (subject to change) on March 21st 2003.


For more information, visit www.farscape.com

Regards . . . The Jim Henson Company

Angel Sarah
03-10-2003, 09:37 AM
...but a response nonetheless.

After seeing the Save Farscape posters linked to on the BBC's Farscape site I sent quite a heartfelt thank you note to the folks at BBC Cult, also asking that if they would buy the 5th season, could they tell Skiffy/UPN/etc. that they would be interested. I got this lovely reply back, and although it's not the kind of reply we'd've liked, it is both personalised and really really kind - so here it is:

Hi Sarah

Hey, good to hear from you. Glad you appreciate what we're doing on the site, and definitely keep up the campaign.

Really sad to say it, but there's no chance of the BBC funding Farscape. The difference in cost between buying it and making it is very, very large, and funding a series made so far away would also be difficult. The BBC has a responsibility to all its licence-fee payers, not just those that like science fiction, more's the pity, and it would be so expensive that we just couldn't justify it.

The fact that we'd buy it and show it wouldn't really make any difference to any other network, as it would be Hensons who got the money from us. And we can't start getting personally involved in other networks' business affairs, because that would be highly unprofessional, and we wouldn't want them to do the same to us.

Really, really sorry about that. Really.

All the best

Primate

dax0402
03-11-2003, 12:25 PM
Received a reply letter from Quaker Oats on 3/7/2003. Basically your generally form letter commenting that "Your point of view is important to us. We have shared your comments with our Marketing and Advertising staffs for consideration as future advertisements are planned."

harveywhispers
03-11-2003, 05:27 PM
A different Henson letter? -

_ _ _ _
Found this letter in my mailbox today - a little strange, as I haven't sent anything to Henson since back before the 11 started to air (and I got a response back then):

_ _ _ _

3 March 2003

Dear Farscape Fan,

Thank you for your continued interest in Farscape. There are currently no plans for a Fifth Season to be produced. The season four finale will air (subject to change) on March 21, 2003.

We are proud of the achievements of Farscape over past four years, which have included international critical recognition, three Saturn Awards, and an Emmy nomination. The Company is greatly appreciative of the enormous outpouring of support from fans interested in saving the series, as it is a true testament to both the admiration felt for the program and the loyalty of the show's fan base.

Again, thank you so much for your support and for taking the time to share your thoughts with us.

For more information, please visit www.farscape.com

Regards,
The Jim Henson Company

_ _ _ _

*edited to add - "the more I think about it, I can't swear on a stack of bibles that I didn't send another letter" - soooooo much writing......the memory sometimes fails me:D

SerenaBlack
03-11-2003, 10:32 PM
A response without a letter? :eek: Now that IS something!
Serena

SabaceanBabe
03-12-2003, 07:18 AM
And you'll not that they said season 4 finale, not series finale.

blue
03-12-2003, 07:16 PM
I received the same letter from Henson as HarveyWhispers-with the same date-but I did send them a letter more recently.

B Sharp
03-23-2003, 03:28 PM
bumping this one back up to the top- anyone have any newsworthy replies from letter writing?

harveywhispers
03-23-2003, 05:58 PM
New response from Procter & Gamble:

Dear Real Me:

Thanks for contacting P&G.

We're happy to know that you are pleased with the quality programs we sponsor. It is important for us to keep in touch with our viewer's attitudes, an I am sharing your comments with our advertising Managers responsible for television programming.

Thank you for getting in touch with us.

Sincerely,

Mary Lou Statt
Consumer Relations - CCT

--------------

Note: This is the 2nd response that I received from P&G - the first told me that they had no say in programming decisions.

hw

blue
03-23-2003, 11:36 PM
i just got the same response as harveywhispers (above) from Proctor and Gamble, dated March 14, 03.

Scoots
03-24-2003, 11:35 AM
Here's a response from ShowTime:

Response (Tony) 03/24/2003 05:54 AM
Thank you for your comments. We value all the comments we receive and we're glad you took the time to share your opinions with us. I am forwarding your email to the programming department, as they should be aware of the strong viewer support of this show.

akimbo
03-24-2003, 12:38 PM
Welcome Scoots! We love to bug Showtime online!

May this be your first, but not your last response.

Scaper1984
03-24-2003, 01:33 PM
Hey all! I just wanted to let you know that you should write to Showtime and let them know that they should pick up Farscape. I recently wrote them an email through their site and here is the response that I got today:

Response (Tony)
Thank you for your comments. We value all the comments we receive and we're glad you took the time to share your opinions with us. I am forwarding your email to the programming department, as they should be aware of the strong viewer support of this show.


Cool huh? So, write to Showtime! www.showtimeonline.com


Scaper1984

Scaper1984
03-24-2003, 01:34 PM
Ooops! Sorry! I didn't see that someone had already posted something like this!

Scaper1984

harveywhispers
03-24-2003, 05:57 PM
Not a problem Scaper1984 & welcome to the campaign!!

hw

Eriku
03-24-2003, 10:18 PM
Hey all,

I got a form letter from Proctor & Gamble today. I've been sending out letters for quite a while now. They do read them. And they do respond.

I'm assuming someon's already posted the form letter, so I won't do it again.

****

It's the same one Harveywhispers posted earlier.

Leia2Solo
03-25-2003, 07:07 AM
HI all,

This wasn't a to-do list response, but I wrote to a woman (Diane Werts) who wrote an article in Boston about the season 4 finale and I got this response:

*****

thanks so much for your note about my farscape column.

dunno how it got to scifi sites -- i guess scapers are keeping their eyes peeled!

keeping fingers crossed,
diane

SerenaBlack
03-25-2003, 09:01 AM
Ooo, I would like to read that article. Is it posted somewhere?
Serena

Digger
03-25-2003, 09:07 AM
Hey Serena. Here's the link to the article.

http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/075/living/Science_frictionP.shtml

SerenaBlack
03-25-2003, 09:11 AM
Wow that was quick! Thanks!
Serena

nhfearme
03-26-2003, 05:43 AM
I got a response from Diane Werts diane.werts@newsday.com for an email I wrote after reading her article "Farewell to a Phenomenon" on Newsday.com @

http://www.newsday.com/news/columnists/ny-p2toptv3179819mar20,0,4916450.column?coll=ny%2Dnew s%2Dcolumnists

thanks for your nice note about my column.

we'll see what happens next . . .

diane

Say Digger! :hi:

Thanks for the article ... but this one is is "Science friction" @ boston.com by Suzanne C. Ryan. I've only partially read it, but she encapsulates my feelings in her article very well.
Fans of ''Farscape'' are fed up with her [Bonnie Hammer's] justifications.Suzanne has written an excellent article. And now that I know that, I think I'll write and tell her so. sryan@globe.com

Thanks digger! :D

deweytoo
03-27-2003, 10:52 AM
Thank you for your letter to FedEx. We appreciate your taking the time to write to us and for your comments concerning Farscape.

As you mentioned, the show has been canceled but Sci-Fi will run the reruns of the shows through the 2003 season. FedEx will continue to advertise in selected episodes.

It is unfortunate that this critically acclaimed show has been cancelled. We have made the Sci-Fi channel aware that we have received a number of letters from disappointed viewers, but unfortunately FedEx is not at liberty to influence the decisions of cable networks.

Thank you again for your interest.

Sincerely,
Carol Millsaps
Manager, Advertising


At least they got in touch with Sci-Fi to tell them about the letters they are receiving from disappointed viewers.:aok:

Scaper1984
03-27-2003, 11:19 AM
Anyone else get this? This is a new response from Showtime:

While we would very much like to help you, we are currently not at liberty to supply you with the information that you requested at this time.

What could this mean????

Scaper1984

Greenbug
03-27-2003, 11:37 AM
I got the same response as Scaper1984.

"Response (Tony) 03/27/2003 06:59 AM
While we would very much like to help you, we are currently not at liberty to supply you with the information that you requested at this time. "


In my email I told them that while at this moment I do not take Showtime, I would be the first in line should they deceide to pick up Farscape.

Somehow I see that response as a good sign, not a bad one.

RescueFarscape
03-28-2003, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by deweytoo
Thank you for your letter to FedEx. We appreciate your taking the time to write to us and for your comments concerning Farscape.

As you mentioned, the show has been cancelled but Sci-Fi will run the reruns of the shows through the 2003 season. FedEx will continue to advertise in selected episodes.

It is unfortunate that this critically acclaimed show has been cancelled. We have made the Sci-Fi channel aware that we have received a number of letters from disappointed viewers, but unfortunately FedEx is not at liberty to influence the decisions of cable networks.

Thank you again for your interest.

Sincerely,
Carol Millsaps
Manager, Advertising


I got the same one. Very nice letter AND hand-signed.:)

samati75
03-29-2003, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Greenbug
I got the same response as Scaper1984.

"Response (Tony) 03/27/2003 06:59 AM
While we would very much like to help you, we are currently not at liberty to supply you with the information that you requested at this time. "


In my email I told them that while at this moment I do not take Showtime, I would be the first in line should they deceide to pick up Farscape.

Somehow I see that response as a good sign, not a bad one.

Me, too. Got my awnser Friday. Tony is quite a busy guy.

samati75
03-29-2003, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by Scaper1984
Hey all! I just wanted to let you know that you should write to Showtime and let them know that they should pick up Farscape. I recently wrote them an email through their site and here is the response that I got today:

Response (Tony)
Thank you for your comments. We value all the comments we receive and we're glad you took the time to share your opinions with us. I am forwarding your email to the programming department, as they should be aware of the strong viewer support of this show.


Cool huh? So, write to Showtime! www.showtimeonline.com


Scaper1984

So now they are not at liberty to discuss when a few days ago they were replying as above? Hmmmm......

samati75
03-29-2003, 06:00 PM
From the article "Science Friction" by Suzanne C. Ryan

Sci Fi's president Hammer concedes she receives e-mails daily from upset viewers. ''Science fiction for some reason has an even more passionate fan base than other genres, so when any series ends, somehow there is a backlash,'' she says. Still, she insists that ''Farscape'' is ''coming to its natural end. ... It was a fabulous series that told great stories with a fabulous cast and at some point you have to say goodbye. ... Like many series, it started waning in the ratings, and we have to move the channel forward with fresh product."

Bonnie. What a hag. She knew very well it wasn't finished.

Chaym
03-29-2003, 06:10 PM
Can you put her address in the Hug a Newsman Day thread so we can all send her a card? Edited to say, looks like I already posted 2 possible snail mail addy's for her. However, if you happen to know which office it is that she works in, it'd be wonderful if you could let us know. :bounce:

Let's share the love!...in a love your favourite newsperson kind of way... :love:

Originally posted by Leia2Solo
HI all,

This wasn't a to-do list response, but I wrote to a woman (Diane Werts) who wrote an article in Boston about the season 4 finale and I got this response:

*****

thanks so much for your note about my farscape column.

dunno how it got to scifi sites -- i guess scapers are keeping their eyes peeled!

keeping fingers crossed,
diane

harveywhispers
03-29-2003, 08:06 PM
Got my FedEx response today - via email.

hw

dax0402
04-01-2003, 09:57 AM
This is the replay I received today from my E-Mail to Showtime. Also sent a "snail mail" to them.

Response (Tony) 04/01/2003 07:49 AM

While we would very much like to help you, we are currently not at liberty to supply you with the information that you requested at this time.

Response (Tony) 04/01/2003 07:48 AM

Thank you for your comments. We value all the comments we receive from our subscribers and we're glad you took the time to share your opinions with us. I am forwarding your email to the programming department, as they should be aware of the strong viewer support of this show.

Digger
04-03-2003, 06:06 AM
After the fiasco when we heard that henson was getting some "unpleasant" emails from people blaming them for the cancellation I felt compelled to write them and give them some Scaper Love. here's the response I got yesterday.


Dear Farscape Fan:

The Jim Henson Company would like to thank all of Farscape's loyal fans for their years of dedication to the show, its characters and stories.

In the wake of the cancellation, we have felt honored by the tremendous outpouring of support to save the show.

The "To Be Continued" ending in the final episode signifies The Jim Henson Company's commitment to the property and our belief that there are other options for it to grow.

Thank you once again for your continued support; we truly appreciate your commitmenet to Farscape.

Cordially,
The Jim Henosn Company

nhfearme
04-03-2003, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by Digger
The "To Be Continued" ending in the final episode signifies The Jim Henson Company's commitment to the property and our belief that there are other options for it to grow. :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Hell Yeah!

We Love You Guys!

Scapekid
04-03-2003, 10:05 AM
HELL YEAH!

:BOUNCE: :BOUNCE: :BOUNCE:!

(ain't tirielitis great?)

Cariad,
Scape'

:jedi:

SabaceanBabe
04-03-2003, 11:27 AM
Hell Yeah!!!!!

I think Henson needs some ice cream!

jadeshand
04-03-2003, 11:30 AM
other options = anime?

Dominar of Action
04-03-2003, 11:35 AM
Oh, lordy, I hope not jades. Not that I mind it per se, just not as a substitute :P

akimbo
04-03-2003, 04:03 PM
Got a response today from Carlson Restaurants Worldwide.
(Friday's)

Thank you for taking the time to notify us of your television viewing choices. I will outline your comments to our marketing department as it relates to our advertising buy of TV time.

Please continue to choose Friday's when makin