View Full Version : End of season. Now what?
Well here we are, reaching the end of the season and no, still no home for Farscape. Does that mean we've failed? Absolutely not. From the beginning we've stated time and again that this would take time. That it wouldn't be quick or easy. Most fan campaigns don't start until now. We've been very fortunate to have had this six-month head start. Our efforts have netted results, but no, they're not the type that are easy to see or easy to quantify. What we've done is show that Farscape has a strong and loyal fanbase – something that is incredibly valuable, and something that will serve Farscape well in the long run.
So now what?
A Boycott?
Not from this site and I'll tell you why. We're called savefarscape.com and watchfarscape.com – not screwscifi.com. If you want to boycott SCIFI, go right ahead, nobody is stopping you. If you want to start a campaign website dedicated to boycotting SCIFI and their sponsors, again, go right ahead. But we're not going to advocate a boycott here because we're dedicated to finding a home for Farscape; we want people to watch Farscape. I don't care about SCIFI right now. I'm not going to watch the channel, personally. I've got some very bad feelings associated with them – I'd go so far as to say I loathe the SCIFI Channel. But I love Farscape more than I hate SCIFI and my concern and the concern of this website is Farscape. I want people to watch Farscape. I want new viewers to watch Farscape. I want to continue to grow the audience for Farscape because that makes Farscape a much more valuable franchise. SCIFI will be showing Farscape reruns – a boycott would be counter to our goal of getting people to watch Farscape. I don't care about the SCIFI Channel, I care about Farscape and I want good health and long life for the franchise and that means getting people to watch and being a positive force for the show.
How long will this take?
I don't know. I can tell you right now that the people behind Farscape are working on things to help continue the franchise. I can't tell you what those things are because they're in the planning stages and negotiation stages and there are no guarantees or promises. But the people behind Farscape – Brian Henson, Rockne O'Bannon, David Kemper – have not given up on Farscape. Most importantly, The Jim Henson Company has not given up on this franchise. It does have a future and we will see it again, but it's going to take time.
What do we do?
We do what DK said six months ago - we stay a community. This website will be here as long as it needs to be here. If that's six more months or three more years, we'll be here. Our job will be to keep the franchise going strong – keep Farscape alive. We'll do that with community, with viewing parties, with a presence at conventions, by continuing to introduce new people to the show, through fic, and vids and artwork. All the things that make fandoms strong. We're working on a redesign of the website to reflect this.
I've got some ideas about this but let me ask you – what do we do next? While you're coming up with ideas, remember these four things - giving up is not an option, we haven't failed, this website isn't going anywhere, and nobody else has given up on Farscape.
So, how do we keep our community strong, united and invested in Farscape?
Mr_Trent
03-10-2003, 07:00 PM
there's only one thing to say to such a great post :
AMEN !!!
BRAVA Red! :beer:
I like all those ideas... can't wait to see what everybody else comes up with to share! :D
DentArthurDent
03-10-2003, 07:15 PM
Hey, Red you might want to reread, or at least explain you explanation in this sentence:
>I'd go so far as to say I loathe the SCIFI Channel more than just about anybody short of the people at Farscape.<
second paragraph...
I think I know what you mean, but thought you might elaborate...
AFD
'not totally quite unlike tea...'
Tokeya
03-10-2003, 07:19 PM
:beer: Well said!!
DentArthurDent
03-10-2003, 07:27 PM
It must be the strange and twisted way my brain is processing the info. The way I read it your saying you loath ScifFi more than anything with the exception of farscape, which you loath more. But I know that's not true, I was just pointing out the way the words read to me.
Seriously, the ideas you mentioned are good, I'll put the old thinking 'cap on and see what rattles around in there...
AFD
Yeah, I got it, AFD, and the line was edited. Thanks for catching that. :aok:
akimbo
03-10-2003, 07:33 PM
Thanks for the post, Red. I'm not sure what the next six months will hold. Perhaps a slightly smoother ride than the last six months. (This has been quite a ride so far.)
I'll think about it once the latest TV commercial is done and we see if we've had any impact.
Anyway, the only thing rattling around in my brain is the wing nut that fell off the bolt holding my brain in place. :)
I think I need some DRD repair work. ;)
Dominar of Action
03-10-2003, 07:35 PM
LOL, AFD. I had to read that sentence 3 times myself :D
But aside from that, can I just say
HELL YEAH!!!
Let's keep making noise! Let's each one of us keep looking under every rock for new viewers. Let's use the DVDs, viewing parties, tapes, and yes, the reruns, to convert new viewers -- remembering to encourage *them* to convert others in turn!
And above all, we stick together. Our unique strength is our community. I've never seen another online community quite like this one. I am so proud to be associated with this show as a fan! Yay, us!!
Yes, I'm also still angry at Sci Fi and their pettiness, but not ready to give up until Henson and the others tell us too. Ideally, I'd like to see a continuance of the polite, determined, and coordinated passive resistance we've mounted with good effect so far.
Anything we can do, as a group or individually, to keep getting the name FARSCAPE out there and adopted into the public lexicon is helping the future of the franchise. Put a sign in your rear car window promoting the repeats, or if you can't bring yourself to do that, just a sign that reads "FARSCAPE" in big bold letters. If you can, get one of guyricardo's carwraps with ||Scorpius||'s georgeous artwork. Keep dropping business cards in public places. Keep posting flyers in bathroom stalls (love that idea). Keep doing all the other little things that increase the chance that someone will see/hear the word "FARSCAPE" at some point during the day.
Be Proud to Be Scapers!
Greenbug
03-10-2003, 07:56 PM
Giving up is not an option in my book. I will still be getting everyone I can to watch the DVD's and telling everyone I know about Farscape. (Even if some are alittle tired of hearing about it; they look at me and I can see them thinking; what is so great about that show that she won't let go. Then you have em!)
I here for the long haul and I stand behind Henson in what they did and what may come.
:aok:
jadeshand
03-10-2003, 08:00 PM
Well - this is what I think. We still pursue Sci-Fi for those reruns and we advertise those reruns as much as possible. I don't think anyone is fooled that Sci-Fi is trying to screw us with the times, but we'll just have to beat them.
I also think we need to double our efforts to find Farscape a new home. So some places have turned us down. Accepting a 'no' is not an option. Let's keep pursuing - politely, professionally, but firmly until they realize that we aren't going away.
So make out the new flyers with the rerun times on them - hit the bookstores and Best Buy with them again. Start making copies of the seasons and hand them out to friends and friends of friends. Encourage people to buy the Season 1 DVD. I have been surprised at the people in Best Buy who buy whole TV series because they've never seen them on television. Farscape can be a big seller there.
And write, write, write, write - pour those letters into Viacom and Showtime and yes, keep writing Sci-Fi. You never know when the regime might change and the new people will want to see the letters and cards, etc.
And never, ever let this community die. Keep this website going - visit cons everywhere and find your fellow Scapers - demand that regional cons seek to have the Farscape actors. Work with your brothers and sisters in Farscape to spread the word as much as possible.
Keep Farscape in the public eye!
Thanks Red.
We're not going anywhere:)
uisceboo
03-10-2003, 10:44 PM
All of what Red and Jackie said, and this:
Get the show out there.
As I always say, and pardon my crudeness:
Make chickenshit into chickensalad.
Those reruns being aired after 422 burn in our guts, but they are also a tool. SciFi said the audience could not grow, but we are growing it, and we can continue to do so -- much easier from the beginning. We have DVDs and tapes, we have reruns which can be taped as well! In some ways, Farscape is more accessible now than before.
Get the word out there
Keep advertising, spreading the news. I have full intent to keep placing ads in the NYC are for Farscape to gain new viewers and campaigners. We know a lot better now what actions ring the biggest results, so we can do this much more effectively than ever before..and much more easily, because we know what we are doing.
Educate the newcomers
We are pretty much the Ancients in this campagn, and we are probably going to spend a lot of time telling people how to do it, and kicking them back into play when they get it wrong. They are light, we are the lens: focus.
Stay a community
We all know each other, we all trust each other, we know who does what and what we are capapble of. We are our own support team. If major corporations knew their staffs like we knew each other, the whole world would move more smoothly.
I think many fans greatest fear is the potential loss of the community, and I have to agree with them, it's not something I would want to see lost either.
Furthermore, we are STRONG in numbers, but our strength is not in quantity, it's in cohesion. We are thousands of people, acting as one! Our community is, in my opinion, the greatest legacy the Farscape people ever gave us. I cherish this community. Let's keep it.
On that note as well, I think fans should be encouraged to attend Farscape conventions when they can, go to Meetups, start local clubs, interact and grow the fandom. We need to spread off-line and bring fans online (sneaky, aren't I?).
Think positive
I keep saying, on the day 422 airs in the US, Farscape is no more cancelled than it was in September of 2002. It was an arbitrary deadline that people adopted, and I don't know why, because it has little to do with the business side of things.
I would like to think of this as a really, really long hiatus.
We have to make it ampley, loudly clear that we are continuing, Farscape is still on the air (in reruns), that the campaign is going forward...and as soon as there are new projects, they have to get out there. People have asked me what's going on, they want to know what to do next. They are ready...but I fear if they wait for new marching orders too long, they will take it as a sign that we have given up.
I am not giving it up for anything short of DK's dropping the word.
I am in this for the long haul, I have been screwed too many times in life, I am putting all of my messed-up energies to good use and I am fighting like hell!
uisceboo
www.sanetv.com
Sunderflame
03-10-2003, 10:57 PM
bump- Thanks Red.:joy: :thumbs: :beer: I'm so moved!
scape_sister
03-11-2003, 12:11 AM
I'm in for the long haul!!!!
Go Scapers! We are all amazing!!!!
I can't frelling believe what we have accomplished so far, and what we do in the future will be even more exciting!
Farsight
03-11-2003, 01:03 AM
Good thoughts, I'm with ya. :)
I'm not sure what we'll do, but I know that if it'll help bring about an episode 5.01, I'll do it. :)
ThinIce
03-11-2003, 03:34 AM
Yeah you've even got the support of some of us brits. And we tend to do that even when it'll, like, you know, split our government :P
But seriously, if there are more episodes written and the actors want to play, its idiocy if this show isnt resurrected within the next few months :(
Kerlin
03-11-2003, 05:42 AM
Hell Yeah for Red and for Scapers!
I'm not going anywhere. We have to keep pushing, keep talking. The number one thing that converts people to Farscape is Scapers. Persistence and passion - keep saying how amazing it is, keep your enthusiasm, keep your love for the show. It shows, it really does. That's what drew me to the show in the first place - your love for the show, this community's dedication. That's our strongest asset. We WILL win, because Farscape is just. That. Good.
JasonF
03-11-2003, 06:16 AM
I think maybe there should be more focus on pressuring the SciFi Channel to move up the time of the FS reruns. I can only let so many people borrow my DVD's...
JA_Shipper
03-11-2003, 06:39 AM
Thanks for the encouraging words, Red (and everybody else!) :aok:
uisceboo
03-11-2003, 06:40 AM
...in the meanwhile those of us that can are going to tape those reruns so we have more copies to lend out. It's a start!
:-D
Scapekid
03-11-2003, 07:19 AM
I think that things will get harder from now on in some ways, because we have no way to benchmark time.
The show was cancelled, and we had the immediate response. Then we had the wait for the new episodes, then we had the wait for the ratings for the new episodes... We had ways to mark the 'next big thing that is important,' to keep us cohesive. We also knew that we *wouldn't* hear anything from UPN or any other network until after the last show had aired.
When that has happened, we will have no ways to mark time. No 'next big thing,' except hearing from the big corporations, and we can't put a timeframe on that.
So I would like to stand up with everyone else and applaud Red for this wonderful post. I think posts like this are EXACTLY what is needed right now. Heck, even if it's just a weekly post to say, 'Hey guys, we're still here and still fighting.'
Even though I have ABSOLUTELY NO intention of giving up on this, it's nice to know no one else has either. :)
Perhaps we need to make goals for ourselves for focus. Like the to-do lists, but a little different.
For example, I think taking note of the rerun ratings, analyzing the ratings of Fridays sans Farscape would be handy. And it would give us a weekly (or daily since they're going to be frequent) *thing* to make us feel like we're seeing our progress and not working blind.
Heck, maybe we should try and encourage people to watch the reruns. If we could get the rerun ratings above a 1.0 that would send a VERY clear message. Plus since (I believe) they're reruning early episodes, it would be FAR more accessible to newer viewers.
Continuing in our trend of publicity stunts - like the TV adverts and trying to get coverage for them might also be handy - not only to gain new eyeballs, but to give us a *thing* and let us track its progress.
Um... Yeah, that's about it. I'm not trying to criticize anything, or step on anyone's toes, in fact, I'd like to say that I'm hugely proud of everyone on the SF.com team, and the people who put out the to-do lists. You guys have stepped up to the leadership plate admirably. And I have absolute faith that you will continue your stellar performance.
I guess I'm just saying, in response to your 'now what?' question, that I think we need ongoing projects, because the act of being able to follow something, and log on every day to see the latest development (even if it's just a new flyer design) is hugely heartening. And strengthening to this community that I REALLY don't want to lose.
So...all in all...I agree with everything that's already been said on the thread.
We need to keep strong, stay together, and try to continue to come up with new ideas. Not just to get new eyeballs, but because the act of continuing to brainstorm and execute our plans will keep us strong and motivated. :)
Cariad,
Scape'
SabaceanBabe
03-11-2003, 08:17 AM
I'm here and you can't make me go away.
I've got a couple of people who weren't going to watch the reruns 'cuz they don't want to stay up that late committed to watching them on the tapes I'll be making, so that's one thing I'm doing to grow the viewership.
And I'm working on another letter for Viacom and all the other usual suspects regarding a simple little cancelled sci fi show that somehow managed to garner nominations for the three top TV Saturn awards . . .
Scape on, guys and jirls!
Wolli World
03-11-2003, 09:22 AM
You said it Red!
Speaking of things we can do... :angelgrin
Did you guys figure out a way to for the newcomers who watch the commercial to come here and catch up on everything and get involved? Maybe with a prominent link on the homepage and using akimbo's information? Is there anyway that's going to be done by the 21st? Is there something I can do to help?
Thanks for the heads up, Red! We appreciate the hard work you're doing... And I'm sure I'm not the only one around here who has no intention of giving up. Ever. ;-)
Chiana: "When will you give up?"
John: "I won't."
Chiana: "You have to give up sometime."
John: "No I don't."
JKriteton
03-11-2003, 10:54 AM
I needed to know that DK and JH aren't giving up. That's what I needed to know. So the first post of this thread was helpful.
It would be nice to hear from DK, though.
PrairieScaper
03-11-2003, 11:00 AM
I'm heartened to see the determination of this community.
I really didn't think I'd feel so positive this close to the end of Season 4! I've read some pretty discouraged -- and discouraging -- posts from folks who apparently expected fast results. I hope every single one of those posters reads this uplifting thread!
Obviously, it will be vitally important to keep reminding any possibly-interested networks/network owners that an audience will still be here whenever and wherever FS continues.
Also, a very prominent link on the main page to take newbies (whether directed by the commercial or otherwise) to a campaign primer page would be most peachy. I bow to the technically-gifted organizers of WF.com, and I will donate to your server fund as soon as I am able. Hopefully there will be another flood of hits after the commercial airs, but we don't want to blow all the circuits...
:bounce: for unity and positive vibes! :olympic:
uisceboo
03-11-2003, 12:51 PM
DK said at the last chat that he *might* chat again afert 422 aired. Is anyone keeping an eye out for announcements that he might? I honestly cannot swallow going to skiffy's site for any reason, but I know many people still do. Is anyone going to give us heads up?
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I like the ongoing project idea a lot, and I am hearing a lot of good things everywhere from people wanting to promote the watching of the reruns. I LOVE the idea of a campaign primer, but how does one approach such a project? (If anyone writes it, I will be happy to proof and copyedit it!)
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This is a very encouraging, hope-filled thread, with common sense abounding. All Scapers should read it! I was having a crappy day, butr already I am feeling better.
uisceboo
fundraisers: saneTV.com (http://www.sanetv.com)
Thank you for this thread, Red. I sent some money for the site. How much is needed per month?
I am in total agreement with everything that has been said here. And lets not forget UPN--and the advertisers.
Pilot's babe
03-11-2003, 01:33 PM
A lot of viewers from the UK have just joined. In the to do list it may be a little daunting when the advice is to write to advertisers in the US. Perhaps the newer posters could just be given a contact address for Sci Fi? Advice about writing letters, or if they cannot afford it sending a postcard. Even an e-mail to contact Bonnie Hammer? A newbie thread to give them advice could be really helpful whilst we are all motivated after the airing of the finale. Just a thought.
Pilot's babe
03-11-2003, 02:05 PM
Also I think we should have a clear sign maybe on the home page that Farscape hasn't aired worldwide yet. All the new UK posters may not be aware of this and the sites policy.
mgraylorn
03-11-2003, 02:43 PM
I second the notion of advertizing the reruns. My S.O. doesn't want to watch the new eps because he hasn't seen it from the beginning. I think there are other (misguided) peope who feel the same. We have an opportunity to get those people hooked with the reruns at midnight. Nowdays, midnight is past our bedtime, but I'm taping the episodes, which we can then watch whenever. When I was in college, midnight wasn't necessarily past my bedtime. And if you live in the Central Time Zone, its 11pm - a lot easier. I myself started seriously early 3rd season and caught up when skiffy stipped episodes weekday evenings. Having a chance to catch up through the whole series reinforced my viewing of the new episodes.
I like uiseceboo's approach - look at this as a really long hiatus. The series is not done. Hopefully skiffy will use up its rerun rights pretty quickly, Henson can get it back and syndicate it, Farscape will turn up all over the tube, and over even more of the world, and there will be more and more viewers and fans. Farscape will return as a directly syndicated show, or be picked up by another network, or even by a new sci-fi channel, if it gets sold to someone with more than half a brain.
And since we are changing focus from getting sci-lie to reconsider cancellation to finding Farscape another home, I think we should focus on more than one final year. I for one would like to see another 4 years, if the quality can remain so stellar. Each of these last 11 episodes has been better than the one before it. 4.20 was a signature episode in my opinion. Rumors are that 4.21 and 4.22 top that. I want more than one more year.
Those of us who are older can remember what happened with Star Trek. I cried when it was cancelled, and its last season generally sucked. But in a few years, Star Trek popped up again, here and there. And I watched all those reruns. And new people found it through the reruns, including people who weren't even born when it aired originally. And people started going to Star Trek conventions. And eventually there were movies and several series and it is now a part of American culture. Even John Crichton makes Star Trek references. We have the benefit of the web, and are a lot more savvy than those who started the Star Trek campaign in the pre-web days. We can make it happen sooner for Farscape than it did for Star Trek. But we need to be in it for the long haul, be persistent and patient. Remember Talyn John's comment to Moya John about Aeryn, "She takes time." This campain will take time. If you love Farscape, you will give it time.
In the mean time, write letters, convert people, go to conventions, share DVDs, tapes, speak Farscape, advertize the reruns. Maybe if skiffy's reality crap, or lousy series tank, they will be forced to move Farscape to a better time, just to fill space!
Here's a really wild idea, what if, after a few months, we make another TV ad for Farscape, to run in the middle of whatever crap skiffy is running at 8 or 9 pm. Something like, "Isn't this show schlock? Don't you miss Farscape? Wanna do something about it? Contact www.savefarscape.com..." Although people who would watch garbage would probably not want to watch Farscape. Maybe something a bit toned down for some show they are running which would appeal to a Scaper type audience.
In the mean time, I'm placing a personals ad in the Ohio State Lantern, "SEX. Lies. And weapons of mass destruction. Find out - from the beginning! Farscape M-Th midnight SciFi Channel. http://www.watchfarscape.com"
"Farscape M-Th midnight SciFi Channel."
Umm..its Sunday-Thurs at midnight (5 times in a row) after the first week, that starts on a Monday.
DRD2001
03-11-2003, 03:44 PM
Suggestions?
1. Encourage SFC to air reruns at a more reasonable timeslot.
2. Approach other networks to pick up the show.
3. Recruit new fans to watch.
4. Keep our visibility high. Attend cons, car magnets, bumper sitckers, swap video tapes, sign up and attend meetup.com events for Farscape and continue to tell everyone about the best sci-fi show there is.
Heliums
03-11-2003, 04:31 PM
I've got a few suggestions, dunno is anyone else has posted them before though...
1. It's a long shot but, maybe someone could make a motion picture for Farscape. I mean they've done it with Star Trek.
2. Has anyone asked Sci-Fi what it would take to get them to continue Farscape?
Pilot's babe
03-11-2003, 05:43 PM
My suggestion is that on the home page maybe the contact addresses should be easy to find? Then when new fans stumble across the site if they see an e-mail address they might be inclined to send an e-mail more than if they had to seek out the relevent infomation.
ratscape
03-11-2003, 06:16 PM
Here's a couple ideas I've been thinking about, as long-term goals, to get more new fans AND keep the franchise alive:
1) When the cancellation news broke, ADV was considering an anime Farscape project. We need to contact ADV and tell them we're all for it! We need to support it! There is a HUGE anime audience out there and this would be an ideal way to expose them to Farscape.
2) Comicbooks. We should write to a few publishers and tell them we want an on-going FS comicbook. Wildstorm produced a 2-issue story a while back-- don't know how successful it was-- but now without any new eps on TV, we're hungry for anything Farscape, right? Again this is another way to introduce FS to fresh new faces. Someone who might have resisted the TV show may be more comfortable taking a look at FS through comics. Also the the entertainment industry always has its eyes on comicbooks. From "Daredevil" to "Road to Perdition".
We also need to support what's still out there. Trading cards, magazines, books. This shows TPTB that FS is a healthy franchise. And keeping all the FS product on the shelves just acts as another form of advertising--keeping the Farscape name out in front.
IMHO,
rats
evilnos_unholy
03-11-2003, 07:16 PM
oh man, every where on the net I have posted for support, I have sent letters, emails to advertisers, networks and it seems nothing happens, I feel a little demoralized at this point, with knowing that the sets of moya and the rest of the stuff are now either being destroyed or sold off... what NOW?
at least a proper final, at least another season, that's all I wanted
I so loved this show, is sci-fi going to kill everything good that comes their way?:(
evilnos_unholy,
The sets were dismantled but detailed photos were taken and the key pieces have been saved. And sets can be rebuilt.
"And sets can be rebuilt."
And they were going to have to be rebuilt anyway.
Mr.Steely
03-12-2003, 10:15 AM
I dont know how many of you have seen this, so my apologies if im reposting.
" Farscape Fund Petition Update
Posted by: Chip on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 09:00 AM
3300 signers and $260,000!!! (1/28/03). Some people worry that $260,000 is not enough, but this petition indicates only a tiny portion of the potential. A complete effort to fund the show would get much more exposure, and would reach many more fans. Projections based on this petition look very promising."
Taken from the TVC site (http://www.theviewerconsortium.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=5&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0)
not so many signers but a hell of a lot of money!!!!
personally I think there's still hope even if its straight to DVD
The reruns can only bring more fans to farscape and things can only get better from now on :aok:
akimbo
03-12-2003, 10:44 AM
Thanks for the update to the main page :aok:
I think the eps are running at Midnight Sunday - Thursday and not Monday - Thursday like the starter page says.
Greenbug
03-12-2003, 11:14 AM
Just a little up date.
When I checked the Sci-Fi site it showed that Season 4 would begin showing again April 4 at 4am Central time. I'm not sure that's any better than the Midnight time.
But it's something.
:confused:
akimbo
03-12-2003, 11:16 AM
Greenbug: Season 4 is showing on Friday night/Saturday mornings at 4am CT/5 am ET.
They're also starting with Season 1 on Monday March 31st at midnight ET/ 11pm CT and then showing the eps in order Sunday - Thursday at midnight ET/11pm CT.
Sunderflame
03-12-2003, 11:30 AM
who the frell is going to be up at that time in the morning. i suppose the new people who channel surf in the am, may come accross it. Frelling sci fi ...... i know i'm up, because i work 12 hr. nights....
Selena
03-12-2003, 11:33 AM
Here's my $64,000 question ... How's that story coming RED? Is UFO nearly ready for publication? We need great stories - like yours - to fill the readers' shelves and be on the #1 best seller list.
QUOTES:
" Farscape Fund Petition Update
Posted by: Chip on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 09:00 AM
... 3300 signers and $260,000!!! (1/28/03). Some people worry that $260,000 is not enough, but this petition indicates only a tiny portion of the potential. A complete effort to fund the show would get much more exposure, and would reach many more fans. Projections based on this petition look very promising." ...
&
... What would it cost to make a movie or get the series back into production?
David Kemper, (executive producer of Farscape) in his January interview addressed all these topics.
He said that ... if every Farscape fan in the USA (estimated about 3,000,000) were to donate $20 they could do the following ...
make a mini-series or farscape movie ... only problem would be to get someone to market it like "Roadshow" or "MGM" etc. and the return on a movie may be inadequate to cover the costs involved in producing it.
With $30,000,000 ($10 per fan) they would be able to go back and produce the entire 5th Season and have change left over. They just wouldn't have anywhere to show it as Sci-Fi still have the rights to the series for at least another 12 months if not longer.
While David's interview is lengthy (70 minutes) it's well worth listening to as he has some very important things to say about the show, the cast and crew and the feasibility of going back into production. I believe the site for the interview is available somewhere here at SaveFarscape.
waltersgirl
03-12-2003, 04:17 PM
Here's my $64,000 question ... How's that story coming RED? Is UFO nearly ready for publication? We need great stories - like yours - to fill the readers' shelves and be on the #1 best seller list.
fanfic is not eligible for publication as it uses copyrighted characters without the permission of the creators.
vegwedge
03-12-2003, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by Selena
While David's interview is lengthy (70 minutes) it's well worth listening to as he has some very important things to say about the show, the cast and crew and the feasibility of going back into production. I believe the site for the interview is available somewhere here at SaveFarscape.
Does anyone know where I can find this interview?...more specifically than "somewhere here at SaveFarscape. Thanks.
vegwedge
3DFreak
03-12-2003, 05:34 PM
I'm in for the long haul... Not a whole lot I can do fromk my neck of the woods beyond send letters but thats something at least!
Eve11
03-12-2003, 05:36 PM
vegwedge:
http://www.scaperoute.com/savefarscape/onlinekit/multimedia/mmmain.html
At the bottom of the page.
samati75
03-12-2003, 07:17 PM
I'm here. I drive around every day with www.savefarscapecentral.com on my back windshield. I know that site is not the most updated one around, but I made a pledge. I am always asked when I will take the lettering off. I say when we have an awnser to our prayers. That may mean forever. That's ok. The vinyl lettering is holding up really well. I am a girl without alot of resources, but with alot of support to give and a belief that we will get the best show ever back on the air. I know I will be seeing the last ep of season 4 soon; but not that I will see the last ep ever. That keeps me moving. I am dedicated to Farscape, this site, our cause, as long as it takes. I'm not going anywhere.
:spin: My boss: "What up, Farscape?" (Thats what he calls me, lol)
Save Farscape ICQ Group (http://google.icq.com/groups/group_details?gid=11990490)
Joanne Wabeke
03-12-2003, 07:59 PM
Red:
We so needed to hear those inspirational words from the SAVEFARSCAPE community. I truly believe investing in any activity around SCI-FI boycotting etc. is just a waste of time. That being said, I expect that we need to have a collective position on some things, for one do we support reruns of Farscape and ensure the ratings continue to stay in the 1.1 to 1.3 range...of course my angst is that SCI-FI actually benefits....but then if we don't support the reruns we cannot direct/enable any newbe's to watch the Farscape story episode 1 thorugh 4.
Anyway I am committed to supporting the SAVEFARSCAPE campaign and will review the capaign strategize activities to align myself to help the effort. Of course donating money is expected to and I now have PAYPAL to help directly support this effort.
Chaym
03-12-2003, 08:54 PM
Here's my little part of the campaign and it might or might not have new ideas to y'all.
1. I'm a long-time member of Starfleet: The International Star Trek Fan Club which is world wide and thousands strong. My husband is the president/captain of our local group. With every email we send out to the various Starfleet listserves (*alot* of email) is the tagline, "Save Farscape" and the site address. I've given flyers and card samples (see #2) to members at our local meetings. And of course, telling anyone who will listen in the group about how incredible Farscape is. Bascially, I'm trying to get crossover from an already well-established ST fan base into watching and campaining for Farscape.
2. I send out anywhere from 20-30+ unique greeting cards each month to 12 execs at the various networks and Sci-Fi. These greeting cards are for assorted unique and also well-known holidays. The cards are colourful, have related pictures from the show, and cool sayings such as "George Washington fought to save America from the British. John Crichton fought to save Earth from the Peacekeepers. Celebrate George Washington's Birthday by Saving Farscape." followed by "<network name> and Farscape - Perfect Together!" For Oscar's Night, I wrote, "Winner of 3 Saturn Awards: Best Syndicated Television Series and Best Actor [Ben Browder] in a Television Series. Nominated for an Emmy: Outstanding Costumes for a Series. Critically acclaimed by the media." The inside read, "You've nothing to loose by Saving Farscape." For James T. Kirk's Birthday (March 22) I had a pic of Kirk, classic mustard uniform shirt holding a cheesy-looking weapon (wasn't a phaser) with "Captain James T. Kirk - Classic science fiction action hero" Pic of John in leather looking all tough "Commander John Crichton - Today's science fiction action hero." My demographics are on the inside and the back of the card reads "Let Moya return to the Uncharted Territories." with a pic of Moya of course.
3. I'll send the latest month's list of bizzare and unique holidays to the Starfleet lists I'm on as well as post them over on the Unofficial UK Farscape Board.
Why the cards? I figure they're unique. It's not the normal letter. Plus, some of the poor overworked Admin. Assistants might get a kick out them. Some, might actually be passed around the office and the lucky one or two could actually end up on the exec's desk.
4. I'm sending out these cards to 2 execs at TNN as well. TNN has been advertising that they're showing ST:TNG all over the place. They're website just screams, "We're proud to be showing this!!!" They also have a feedback form online. TNN wants you to know that they're the *New National Network* so I make sure that goes onto the labels. I figure if TNN is that proud to be showing NG, they might be happy to take on Farscape as well.
5. And of course, I'm mailing them my bra :-)
O.K., that's it for my little part of the campaign.
~Chaym
99littleyellowbolts
03-12-2003, 09:03 PM
Instead of just looking to the short term and reliving the past in just the episodes, waht about a web based comic produced by the fans. The fanfic is readily available in terms of stories, plot lines and what the fans what. And from there it's just a little shockwave to some ongoing animation or still comics.
Who knows? With a little luck it could help secure the rights to a Farscape comic with a major backer (DC, MARvel, Darkhorse- the last always a favorite among the, well Darkhorses...). Of course such and effort would require a creative team and a certain level of commitment... but as we've seen the fans have oodles of both!
Chaym
03-12-2003, 09:52 PM
Yay Yay and Hell Yeah! to everything you said. Particullary the following:
Originally posted by mgraylorn
Farscape will turn up all over the tube, and over even more of the world, and there will be more and more viewers and fans. Farscape will return as a directly syndicated show, or be picked up by another network, or even by a new sci-fi channel, if it gets sold to someone with more than half a brain.
We can make it happen sooner for Farscape than it did for Star Trek. But we need to be in it for the long haul, be persistent and patient. Remember Talyn John's comment to Moya John about Aeryn, "She takes time." This campain will take time. If you love Farscape, you will give it time.
Maybe if skiffy's reality crap, or lousy series tank, they will be forced to move Farscape to a better time, just to fill space!
Here's a really wild idea, what if, after a few months, we make another TV ad for Farscape, to run in the middle of whatever crap skiffy is running at 8 or 9 pm. Maybe something a bit toned down for some show they are running which would appeal to a Scaper type audience.
In the mean time, I'm placing a personals ad in the Ohio State Lantern, "SEX. Lies. And weapons of mass destruction. Find out - from the beginning! Farscape M-Th midnight SciFi Channel. http://www.watchfarscape.com" [/B]
P.S. please say "hi" to Ohio from this Ohio/West Virginian stuck in Frelling, NJ :-)
CrichtonFarscape
03-12-2003, 09:54 PM
I am recently growing to dislike Sci Fi channel, mostly because they are failing to bring us QUALITY programming in exchange for cheap programs that are enough to stick on the air.
This has no doubt already been come up with, but we should ALL watch EVERY SINGLE rerun of Farscape, and flood Sci Fi with ratings for those reruns! We have to show them that WE WANT IT! Heck, Fox had enough respect when they decided to cancel the X-Files due to ratings to SOMEWHAT allow a form of closure to the storyline! Why can't Sci Fi pay Farscape the same respect?
We have to show Sci Fi that although we dispise them, we love Farscape ENOUGH to give them their stupid ratings! BTW, if anyone knows anything about a Season 2 DVD box set, please email me. LOL :aok:
MissMoxy
03-12-2003, 11:38 PM
Contact the Actors! Ben, Claudia, Anthony, Gigi..etc.
I'll be watching the 2nd half of the episode that leads to the
end of the SERIES. Friday, March14, is the mid-end, of the end.
3 episodes after?
I have very few shows I watch. I have watched FARSCAPE from the very beginning. WE can't let it die!!!
Jeni
Revant
03-13-2003, 12:02 AM
Ok..this might sound odd, especially since there is already a website (and a great one I might add) dedicated to helping to save this incredible show, however...
What about a Yahoo or MSN group? This will almost guarentee more hits, and be even listed in the groups for sci fi fans?
Not sure if one has been created already, but, I think this would greatly aid and add to this wonderful cause!
Also, another thought would be to ask folks to use their email lists/memberships to help spread the word!
I am going to start sending messages to all the groups I belong to, and hope more will as well!
(I think I have the gay/bear community covered that way!)
"Unite and Fight, for this is a battle worth waging!"
Thank you...
Revant Brighton
THX5334
03-13-2003, 04:18 AM
Very motivating post!
(OT) Sorry, but has Save Farscape stopped posting the ratings for the last couple of episodes? I have been coming here to check them, but as of late I can't seem to find them. Especially last week's excellent "We're so screwed" pt 1 and 2. Any info is appreciated!
Thanks!
Kerlin
03-13-2003, 05:29 AM
THX, visit the news archives back a few days, ratings for WSS1 and 2 have both been posted.
Dominar of Action
03-13-2003, 06:53 AM
Welcome to all the new posters! It's great to see you and to benefit from your enthusiasm :)
There are various yahoo (and other?) mailing lists already established, but I believe they are either mainly focused on local Scaper issues/activities or discussion of the show itself. The FWA issues announcements (like the weekly "to do" lists) through its mailing group. (The link to join is on the front page of this site.) There are also at least a couple of newsgroups, but they are not too active in the actual campaign strategizing. This board is really the hub of activity. :aok: to Red & Co. for providing us with this home!
And I agree, it would send a strong message if the ratings for the repeats don't drop off too much from the first-run episodes. And they are also providing us with yet another opportunity to get others to watch/tape and create new sets of "loaner" tapes to spread the contagion ;)
As for how to do that, well for those of you just joining us, since September we've tried newspaper/magazine/TV/radio advertisements, charity events, and tons of other stuff. I'm sure some of these activities will be continued in one form or another, but we need people to step to the front to help organize. I encourage you to use the "Search" feature on the board to catch up on past events/discussions and to see if your idea has already been suggested. Even if you find that your idea has been suggested but wasn't pursued, don't give up on it if you think it's a good one. Sometimes good ideas get overlooked because of other things going on at the time. So, start a new thread to describe your idea and see if anyone else wants to join in!
GeekedOut
03-13-2003, 08:25 AM
Its very nice to wake up to this.
Ideas: Most have been covered by the other posters here. Keep Farscape on the tip of people's tongues and keep on plodding along as we have been.
Loan out DVD's, viewing parties, and the like. And keep sending in FS related material to the people we KNOW support FS.
Darkness Ascending
03-13-2003, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by Selena
He said that ... if every Farscape fan in the USA (estimated about 3,000,000) were to donate $20 they could do the following ...
make a mini-series or farscape movie ... only problem would be to get someone to market it like "Roadshow" or "MGM" etc. and the return on a movie may be inadequate to cover the costs involved in producing it.
With $30,000,000 ($10 per fan) they would be able to go back and produce the entire 5th Season and have change left over. They just wouldn't have anywhere to show it as Sci-Fi still have the rights to the series for at least another 12 months if not longer.
well thats they only option isnt it, but if we fund it as an organisation we can sell it to another network quite cheep? so later episodes wouldnt cost as much from our pockets, how much would it cost to actually buy the show from sci-fi? that would probably kill our chances at the get go, so it would still be on sci-fi and still by unapreciated :mad:
how about if we rase the money to buy it from sci-fi and the give it to another network as long as they sign at make season 5? would that stil not work?
well we are the only thing that can make anything move i think, and only with money, so we making money should be the most important thing i think
Yes, DA, that's possible, but Henson won't sell their rights to Farscape to us... they want to keep the show's rights, as it's their production.... it's for TVC to contact Henson to find out of it's even an option for Henson to work with them at this point...
Quirked
03-14-2003, 09:12 AM
This may have been mentioned before, but it is still worth noting.
Any potential buyer/owner for Farscape should look beyond advertising or even viewer funding. Even if the show operates at a loss, there is a ton of money to be made with merchandising, and conventions to all of us rabid fans.
Anyone that has a part of Farscape should be able to see the bigger picture here - The Farscape franchise. That is what always confounded me about the SciFi decision. How much money does Star Trek pull in every year? And it's not just short term money, we are fans forever. The money would continue for years and years to come.
SAVE FARSCAPE!
garydk1972
03-14-2003, 10:58 AM
I'm glad to be apart of this website. I was amazed when I heard about the series finale. And that was when they announced it on the channel. So anyway I'm glad to stand up with other farscape fans. What can I do to help?
B Sharp
03-14-2003, 12:24 PM
Amen and a big thanks to all those who posted in this thread!
TANIA
03-14-2003, 01:30 PM
IT IS SUCH A HAPPINESS
TO BE SCAPER:joy:
OUR COMMUNITY IS A HOME FOR FARSCAP-FOR NOW
AND THEN THIS FRELLING GOOD SHOW WILL GO ON
OUR HOPE CAN DO IMPOSSIBLE
:aok:
SCAPERS NEVER GIVE UP
akimbo
03-14-2003, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by garydk1972
I'm glad to be apart of this website. I was amazed when I heard about the series finale. And that was when they announced it on the channel. So anyway I'm glad to stand up with other farscape fans. What can I do to help?
Just wanted to say "Hey" and welcome to garydk1972 and Quirked.
As far as the "What can I do to help?" goes. There's lots of stuff going on. AerynGoBragh, letter writing (to Skiffy, advertisers, etc.), TV ad project, joining the meetup projects...jump on in, the water's fine. :aok:
Vindicis
03-14-2003, 07:18 PM
I have been part of attempts to save two shows...Babylon 5 and Birds of Prey. B5 is gone bye-bye, BOP making considerations. BOP changed from series finale to season finale. What are the possibilities here? Are we, now that I am signing on, out to save a show the stars are tired of doing? Thus, dead anyway, or are the actors and such with us?
Kerlin
03-14-2003, 07:40 PM
Actors, writers, everyone, is 100% with us on this, Vindicis. They've all stated repeatedly that they would love to go back to working on Farscape. Skiffy didn't just cancel a television show, it tore apart a family of people who cared deeply about each other and the work of art they gave us. So no worries on their ends; we do our job, and they'll happily go back to doing theirs.
Dominar of Action
03-14-2003, 07:40 PM
Vindicis, they are soooo with us, it ain't funny. :aok: Welcome aboard!
If you've just joined the fandom, you've yet to experience just how much of a little family (albeit dysfunctional at times ;) ) we are. I would suggest you read some of the transcripts of the chats after the cancellation was announced, and listen/read transcript for DK's Intersteller Transmissions interviews in October (?) and January. They may be looking for other work now, but TPTB don't seem to have given up and the actors have all promised to come back if at all possible. These guys were more crushed by Skiffy's decision than we were.
FarCat
03-14-2003, 08:33 PM
In 2000 I attended WorldCon in Chicago. They had only one Farscape panel in an a small room in an ancillary hotel. As the time approached for the panel to begin the Farscape fans began arriving. The chairs filled up, the back of the room filled up, and then the front of the room filled up. The hallway was packed. I believe it was about 10 minutes into the discussion that the doorman ( who wouldn't let anyone else in) stopped the panelists and asked if they would be willing to have a second panel at midnight in a LARGE room in the main hotel. Troopers that they were, they agreed. I, of course, attended the midnight meeting. It was so incredible, the room was filled without being on the schedule and when the con bid parties were in full swing. That was my initiation into the Farscape family of fans. Though I have been a lurker on the boards I have been active in the campaign since reading the dreadful cancellation new last September. I will continue to be active even after SciFi consumates one of the most assinine moves in their history. I bought one of the gorgeous art prints from Lightspeed (not one of the autograghed ones...sigh), and plan to have it framed and prominently displayed in my office. I will continue to put out flyers and send emails. I am constantly sending my romance infatuated friends Farscape cards of John and Aeryn and telling them they will never ever experience a more remarkably portrayed romance. If that romance can pull them in, the rest of the story has to hook them. Thank you guys for giving us direction, encouragement, and coordination of effort in our attempt to save our Farscape. I am constantly impressed, amazed and envious of all of your talent, knowledge, and skills. Next week I am going to wear my Farscape cap and button (given to us free at the Chicon panel) at work. It's my office and I set the dress code. Darn it all, I think we should count for something. Midnight showing of reruns. It's kind of a kick in the teeth.
Vindicis
03-14-2003, 08:41 PM
I, not trully at home in reality anyway, live for certain well done science fiction series or movies. Farscape, Andromeda, Stargate, Enterprise are my top 4 at present. Not many agree with my last two, but hey......I'm happy. Now let's keep my #1 around please!!!!
Vin
Selena, a minor correction to your Kemper quote, which is quoted again later- "if every Farscape fan in the USA (estimated about 3,000,000) were to donate $20 they could do the following ...With $30,000,000 ($10 per fan) they would be able to go back and produce the entire 5th Season and have change left over. "
--I think you meant to write if every US fan gave 2 dollars, not 20 dollars. 3 million times 20 would be 60 million. The next part of the quote is right, 10 dollars each would be 30 million.
If there are really 3 million in the US--I think the ratings still suggest that there may be less than that--until we do something about spreading the word further. There are probably more than 3 million around the world.
Originally posted by Vindicis
I have been part of attempts to save two shows...Babylon 5 and Birds of Prey. B5 is gone bye-bye, BOP making considerations. BOP changed from series finale to season finale. What are the possibilities here? Are we, now that I am signing on, out to save a show the stars are tired of doing? Thus, dead anyway, or are the actors and such with us?
From the chat in which Ben, David and Ricky announced the cancellation on September 6:
(DK) Tuesday will be the last time Ben dons the uniform
(DK) of Commander John Crichton.
(DK) We are all hugely sad.
(DK) I am shaking as I write this.
(DK) Yesterday, we all cried on the set.
(DK) Yet, as we are, at the end of the line
(DK) so to speak
(DK) being just the people who make the show
(DK) and not the corporate entities that fund and air it
(DK) we are as helpless as anyone.
(DK) And we are sad
(DK) And we are shattered.
(DK) And we are sorry.
(...)
(DK) We all believed
(Ben Browder) I really should have prepared something...
(DK) as late as 36 hours ago,
(DK) that we were going to 5th season.
(DK) But Sci Fi has not picked us up,
(DK) so, as all the rumors have suggested,
(DK) we have no way to make the show.
(DK) Believe me, Brian and everyone involved
(DK) have gone LITERALLY to the ends of the earth
(DK) to make this happen,
(DK) but there does not seem to be a way around this moat
(DK) placed before us.
(...)
(DK) and you should know
(DK) we have the 5th season already plotted out --
(...)
(DK) we're all out of work on Wednesday,
(DK) and no one is eager to let this go yet.
(...)
(DK) I am the most savaged and angry person about this you know.
(DK) Brian started on this project with Rockne in 1993.
(DK) I was brought in in 1994.
(DK) It has been essentially my life since then.
(...)
(Ben Browder) Who'd have ever thought we'd be here...
(Ben Browder) Not me.
(Ben Browder) And
(Ben Browder) I will forever be grateful.
(Ben Browder) Thak you guys
(Ben Browder) Thank you even
(FrooniumRicky) Thank you odd
(FrooniumRicky) We truly do appreciate it
(Ben Browder) that's it.... that's all folks
(FrooniumRicky) We'd like to take you home with us, we'd love to take you home
(FrooniumRicky) We don't really want to stop the show
Also read this:
http://www.watchfarscape.com/news/article.php?newsid=72
And download the radio interview found here:
http://www.watchfarscape.com/news/article.php?newsid=205
And the video found here:
http://www.watchfarscape.com/news/article.php?newsid=224
My point: I think that all the people on Farscape truly love the show and would love to get a chance to make more of it. DK had an out-clause in all his contracts before Farscape was greenlighted that he could quit whatever he was doing if Farscape was ever made. And when FS finally got the go ahead, he did just that. I hope they manage to put a similar clause in their future contracts. Getting FS a fifth season may take a year or two, or even more, but as long as the people who made the show are still around, I think they would come back.
moncho63
03-16-2003, 11:05 AM
Has anyone contacted hensen and company and try to convince them to put the rest of the seasons on dvd?
Stargate2077
03-16-2003, 11:19 AM
moncho63: If you are talking about Seasons 1-4, then that is already in progress. Check amazon.com for Region 1 DVDs (they are up to the end of Season 2) and blackstar.co.uk for Region 2 DVDs (they have just started Season 4)
If you are talking about producing Season 5 straight to DVD, it won't work. Henson does not have the financial backing to take such a risk and hope every viewer of the show will buy it.
samati75
03-17-2003, 09:01 AM
I saw a commercial for the Sci-FI magazine, and they said that there would be a "Tribute" to Farscape in the next issue. Slimey you-know-whats...
Bettie Laven
03-17-2003, 09:51 AM
I admire your resolve. I get so naucious (sic) when I see ads for the next series of Friday shows. I will be with you as long as necessary. I dread next Friday! I am perlpexed as to why this show has touched me so much. I am not in the normal profile, being an over 50ish woman, but I just really look forward to Friday evenings (or my taped version). You and your fellow FSsavers are to be commended and praised. Keep up the good work.
cofax
03-17-2003, 12:27 PM
Has anyone contacted hensen and company and try to convince them to put the rest of the seasons on dvd?
It costs too much to produce Farscape for Henson to go straight-to-DVD with it. First, they don't have the upfront capital to fund the production, and second, the return from DVD sales wouldn't be big enough to cover the cost even if they did have the capital.
It's unlikely at this point that straight-to-dvd would be a solution.
Vindicis
03-17-2003, 01:20 PM
Hey, i'm 45 and have found spending more time out of reality, or with my grown kids, gets rid of the stress. Farscape does this better than any scifi show out there.:D
uisceboo
03-17-2003, 09:32 PM
VCRs and Tivo are up at 4/5am. Fortunately, a Nielsen doesn't know the difference between a pair of eyes staring at a TV and a person snoring with a VCR running.
Oh, one more thing: I have linked to this thread on my Suite site, so those who feel they need to start finding direction can do so. I am also going to link to the "new to the campaign" section. You never know where people will stumble in from....
Stargate2077
03-18-2003, 05:01 AM
samati75: Based on the way the website has been handled, it looks like it is being run by fans of Farscape. Remember, the entire company does not have to agree to cancel a show.
End of season-now what? Let's keep looking at that wonderful quote of Ben's in the Mason InsideVC Network article (March 16, 03):
" 'Farscape' will come back because enough people will watch it, and because the people who invested in it will want to make a return on their money," he said.
JA_Shipper
03-18-2003, 05:50 PM
Welcome to all the newbies!! :hi:
That quote of Ben's makes me feel very good - it sounds hopeful, yet matter-of-fact.
Grippy
03-19-2003, 02:45 PM
:D
Good to hear all the inspiring words everybody...!
Think about this. Politicians and world leaders would kill for people like us. We put time, money, effort into a TV show! The would drool with glee if they had people like us on the side of their campaigns. I know a lot of religious groups that would love to number us amongst their faithful. We are more devoted to our show than some people are to their churches!! (no offence intended) I have seen a lot of so-called-communities but this one outstrips them all for solidarity and unity of purpose. I feel at home here, and that's a feeling I don't find many places. I want to thank you all for that. We have a lot of power, money and talent on our side, and all we have to do is keep yelling long enough and they WILL notice us!!!
I have some ideas...
1) Marketing to TV networks has it's points, but the thing is we're going to have to do is pry the rights to the the first 88 eps out of sci-fi's cold dead fingers if we want someone to back season 5 and so on...so do we know? Is Sci-Fi WILLING to sell those rights? Probably not, they'd be giving up all hold on the franchise.
2) Think about Farscape on the big screen. Good action movies with a sci-fi bent have done really well on the big screen aka all the star wars movies plus the star trek movies plus the new rash of comic book movies. We could snare ALL those audiences!!! We've got the dashing conflicted hero who looks good w/o the shirt, the lean mean woman who's romantic but also kicks ass, we've got horrid villians--alright i know you already know this, but do you see my point of what we could DO on the big screen???
3) I think our biggest goal should just be to make Farscape a household word. Star Wars and Star Trek etcetera have a huge name recognition, making them instantly a certain measure of profitable, if we gain that kind of name recognition, we are equally profitable, and thus, equally desirable. Let's be loud and proud, shall we?
:bgb:
To conclude, I believe in us. I believe we will get our show back. We will finish the story. We will get to see Claudia Black in leather again....erm...you know what I mean. We ARE FARSCAPE!
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHA!
Grippy
Crichton04330
03-19-2003, 07:07 PM
I have an idea. I'm currently working on a 3d model of Pilot. I have his head done, and I'm working on a body. My intentions are to use him to make an MSAgent character.
For those who don't know what an MSAgent character is, it is used to read text out loud and use a character to ,ake expressions and gwatures. It can be encorporated into web pages, used in MIRC and there are some programs called cyber buddies that use MSAgent characters. Look up MSAgent in any search engine for more info.
Picture Pilot showing up in the lower right hand corner of the screen reading your chat sessons out loud to you. His mouth moving along with the words he speaks.
You can see how far along I am by going to my web page and checking it out. Richard's Farscape Home Pahe (http://richard04330.tripod.com/farscape/)
Now for my idea. There are lots of games out there like, Quake III, SIMS, and UnReal Tournament that give people the chance to create and edit characters. I would like to see more people take the time to make Farscape Characters for these games.
It would help spread the word of Farscape and its great characters to gamers who may not have seen the show.
They might download them, ad them to the game and see who cool they look. Then they might want to see the actual program that they came from.
So, I'm asking people with talent to take up thier PCs and build some playable detailed characters to help spread the word.
Just an idea.. What do you think.. I know you are out there..
:aok:
http://userpages.prexar.com/rlevasseur/PilotAD.jpg
Spider01
03-19-2003, 10:03 PM
So, how do we keep our community strong, united and invested in Farscape?
Simple!
We SAVE FARSCAPE!!
as a united front.
Red you have done a great job here with this site (this compliment goes to the whole savefarscape.com Admin group).
Dominar of Action
03-20-2003, 06:27 AM
I would like to see more people take the time to make Farscape Characters for these games.I know some people who have had a *ball* playing with XF Sims characters. I've never played with Sims before, but I think I would start if there were Farscape characters. That would be so much fun!
Crichton04330
03-20-2003, 10:31 AM
Someone here name Kerlin sent me an email with a link to a site that has a bunch of Farscape sims characters. It is located at:
http://www.farscape-one.de/ It is called Darkcape. - if you enter this site by clicking on the link for "English" and then looking down the right hand side for Far Sims, there are all sorts of Farscape designs that can be loaded into the game The Sims.
unknownrider
03-23-2003, 09:55 AM
Well said,
but there are no good shows to watch on sci-fi anymore, except for the FS re-runs.
So I won't be boycotting, I'll just not be watching Sci-fi for lack of decent programming.
UR
Crichton04330
03-23-2003, 02:37 PM
I agree. Farscape reruns are the only reason I'll ever watch Scifi. Why watch when they only play old D rated Horror, Crossing over, tremors, and Scare Tactics. If that is where they are going with Scifi, why bother..
Vindicis
03-23-2003, 03:04 PM
Wait, I do watch SG1...yes, that may be strange, but i do. OH, AND I HATED THE WAY THAT FARSCAPE MAY HAVE ENDED, OR MAYBE IT WAS THE RIGHT WAY IF IT CAN'T BE BROUGHT BACK.
shaith
03-24-2003, 01:35 AM
it wasn't the right way - the story isn't over.
Stargate2077
03-24-2003, 04:09 AM
The did the Season 4 season finale just as they would have done it as if there was a 5th Season coming to finish up the plot threads. This is because the cancellation note was not given to them until after filming the season finale. I personally thought the ending was very true to Farscape's tradition of the unexpected. If Kemper had not left it that way, I am sure people would be angry for it being a weak season finale.
waltersgirl
03-24-2003, 05:53 PM
i agree with Stargate...
ozscaper_sammy
03-25-2003, 02:59 AM
Can I hear a hell yeah!
Crowd: HELL YEAH!
That was great! I love being a Scaper! :joy:
Vindicis
03-25-2003, 11:10 AM
I agree with farscape, however they choose to do it. The perfect ending, just like the season before last of Magnum PI, when we all thought he died.
GlitterGirl
03-25-2003, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by jadeshand
I don't think anyone is fooled that Sci-Fi is trying to screw us with the times, but we'll just have to beat them.
I am all prepared to watch the re-runs. Did I miss something, are the times on the SciFi site wrong??
Also, are they showing all of the episodes from all 4 seasons?
Thanks for your help.....my VCR is ready to TAPE!!
waltersgirl
03-25-2003, 09:13 PM
season 4 eps are on at 5am one day a week.
season 1 eps start from the beginning, sunday night for monday, and run 4 nights straight in order.
Faeren
03-28-2003, 03:02 PM
Everyone Vote Please...
Just a couple more days for you folks to be heard on this.
Come on everyone, how often does somebody ASK us what show we wan't? Especially a magazine that is specifically geared towards entertainment.
From my understanding this needs to be done by March 31st. It doesn't even cost you a stamp, just a few moments of your time.
This is FREE exposure here. We only have a couple more days to"wow" 'em.
Please if you haven't yet participated in this vote, DO SO NOW.....Help keep this ball in play for the remainder of the game, we may not ever have another opportunity for this kind of free media attention...
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/commentary/0,6115,434524~3~0~watchthesetvshows,00.html
FOR THOSE HAVING PROBLEMS ON EW SITE:
For those having problems getting their vote posted...It seems to be a time factor, if you don't complete/send comments thru fairly quickly it will boot ya when you hit send. Try either composing comments in advance or make sure to highlight and copy your comments BEFORE hitting the send button, if ya get booted, just go back to page, fill in name, paste copied comments and re-send.....this usually works!
For those MANY who have so eloquently spoken in support of Farscape on EW...I salute you all!!!
Vindicis
03-28-2003, 04:23 PM
I am an idiot, i can't find where to do what, even with link........whaaaaaaaaaaa
Crichton04330
03-28-2003, 04:24 PM
Thanks for letting everyone know about this. I went right over and placed my comments. I'm the one called Richard, my real name. I noticed most of us are all for Farscape, with one ED fan. Good work folks..
Call your friends, tell them all to go there.
;)
Crichton04330
03-28-2003, 04:49 PM
YEAH!!
I bookmarked the http://www.ew.com/ew/article/commentary/0,6115,434524~3~0~watchthesetvshows,00.html because I think it us fun to go back and refresh the page to see how many more people voted.
It is getting more votes by the moment. I have to go write some email to some friends, who may not have seen this yet..
:aok:
Crichton04330
03-31-2003, 09:26 PM
Hey what happened to my link?? Now I click to see how many people have signed and I get a page that said, only subscribers and AOL members are allowed to see this page. Those Frellnicks..
:(
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