Non-FarScape Trivia - Doctor Who

[Egg]

Sorry to interupt but for UK fans The Doctor is on 6.OO pm every night on gold, with an omnibus too, at the weekends
Loving it!

[who45]

This is a guess..Sapan?

[who45]

Originally posted by Egg
Sorry to interupt but for UK fans The Doctor is on 6.OO pm every night on gold, with an omnibus too, at the weekends
Loving it!

Rub it in Egg,lol. I live in the US so that counts me out.

[Egg]

T.A.R.D.I.S band will replace broadband sooner than later, and everyone will get it.
Jump in the old blue box and pay the bill before you get one.
Paradox here we go!!!!!!:rollin: :rollin: :rollin: :rollin:

[who45]

Originally posted by Egg
T.A.R.D.I.S band will replace broadband sooner than later, and everyone will get it.
Jump in the old blue box and pay the bill before you get one.
Paradox here we go!!!!!!:rollin: :rollin: :rollin: :rollin: :rollin: :aok:

[grinner]

Originally posted by who45
This is a guess..Sapan? that is correct

[grinner]

Originally posted by Egg
T.A.R.D.I.S band will replace broadband sooner than later, and everyone will get it.
Jump in the old blue box and pay the bill before you get one.
Paradox here we go!!!!!!:rollin: :rollin: :rollin: :rollin: I like TARDIS Express better. When it absolutely, positively has to be there... yesterday.

[Egg]

So that's how you answer the questions before you get them?

[who45]

NQ. What happens to the Plantagenet during one of the meteorite bombardment's?

[grinner]

Originally posted by Egg
So that's how you answer the questions before you get them? sure enough

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Originally posted by who45
NQ. What happens to the Plantagenet during one of the meteorite bombardment's? wasn't he kidnapped?

[Bargaintuan]

http://home.earthlink.net/~bargaintuan/images/dalekanddesk_small.jpg
This is the final version of the model, unless I get really anal, but I may play with the textures a bit more.

Plantagenet was injured by a meterorite, but conceals his wound, only to collapse later.

[Bargaintuan]

Here's a Dalek at Disneyworld. He's checking out the new Mission: SPACE ride.
http://home.earthlink.net/~bargaintuan/images/disneydalek.jpg

[who45]

Originally posted by grinner
wasn't he kidnapped?

No, the Gravis got him later, but something else happened to him that had to do with the meteorite bombardment.

[grinner]

Originally posted by Bargaintuan


Plantagenet was injured by a meterorite, but conceals his wound, only to collapse later. I think that Bargain might have gotten the question correct.

[who45]

Originally posted by grinner
I think that Bargain might have gotten the question correct.

Yes, sorry Bargaintuan I didn't see your answer. You were right.

[Bargaintuan]

OK, since I've been posting a lot of Dalek pics, I'll ask a Dalek question.

How many globes are on a Dalek's skirt?

[grinner]

Originally posted by grinner

Q. How many 'balls' (hemispheres) encircle the base of the average Dalek? This question was asked already Bargainuan... the answer is 64

[Bargaintuan]

That's not the right answer, though.

[grinner]

It is according to BBC.com. Somewhere on the site they have the number of globes that are on the base of a Dalek... and it is 64. 64 is also the number that is reference in my Doctor Who Technical Manual... and that book IS CANON as it is published by the BBC. How many do you say it is?

[Bargaintuan]

56. That's what I get from the plans I downloaded, as well as all my references from the Web.

[grinner]

I am going to have to scan the Technical Manual... if I can find it. But when I asked that question... it made reference to 64 globes. It is also that number on the BBC website.

[who45]

I thought it was 64 also, but on the web all I could find are plans to build a Dalek and it says 56 hemispheres. I've tried BBC.com and can't find anything, but like grinner, I thought they had it on their web site that the original Dalek's had 64 hemispheres. Sure would like to know for sure, because now this is going to drive me crazy until someone finds out for sure.

[grinner]

This is from a trivia game...
Q. How many 'balls' (hemispheres) encircle the base of the average Dalek?
A. Fourteen panels with four balls on each.

But I am positive that the Technical manual has it at 64

[Bargaintuan]

Well, I've been counting them all day. I had a thought that maybe the Imperial Daleks in "Remembrence of the Daleks" might have had more, since they're shaped differently, but they don't seem to.

[grinner]

I could have sworn it was 16 panels of 4... but???

[Bargaintuan]

I talked to someone who worked on Doctor Who in the '80s, but he couldn't remember. He did say my model looked accurate, though, and it has 56.

He also told me the Daleks stink on the inside.

[Bargaintuan]

Well, we need a new trivia question.

Name three major differences between the Daleks built for the series and the Daleks built for the two films starring Peter Cushing. Note that these film Daleks were later recycled iinto series Daleks.

[GARNET]

I try about the Daleks. The Different between the moive and show are:

1 They had claws not suction cups
2. They were different colors and silver balls no just grey w/ black balls
3. They ran on in laid tracks that supplied them w/ power why the show ones had they own power supplies built in.

[Bargaintuan]

Only some had the claws, but I'll accept that.

At the time, the series Daleks were gray with blue globes, actually, but that answer is essentially correct.

The third, however, is way off base. They were powered the same as in the series stories the films were based on.

[grinner]

well the earlier Daleks got their power from the floor... but later Daleks got their power from an internal source. The early Daleks could only go in certain areas of the Kaled compound... while the later ones could go anywhere... even eventually up stairs.

BTW... what is the third part... so that we can have a new question.

[Bargaintuan]

Well, the simplest answer is the size of the ear lights. The ones in the films are HUGE.

Also, the guns were different. The film Daleks shot smoke.

The fenders of the Daleks were larger. The larger fenders were in one story of the series, but then they reverted back, and kept smaller fenders form then on, so I would have accepted that answer, too.

This should be an easy one. How are the Dalek commanders distinguished from the ordinary soldier Daleks?

[grinner]

are you asking about this... the Dalek Supreme
http://www.paratime.ca/v_and_v/pics/daleksupreme.jpg
or this... the Dalek Emporer
http://www.paratime.ca/v_and_v/pics/emperor.jpg
or this... Humanized Dalek Commanders
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/doctorwho/gallery/dalek/images/340/13revelation2.jpg

Some of the commanders were silver and gold... some were black and gold... some had laser weapons... and some had projectile weapons.

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or this...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/doctorwho/gallery/dalek/images/340/05evil2.jpg
or this...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/doctorwho/photonovels/power/gallery/images/340/power8.jpg

[Bargaintuan]

None of those. The white and gold Daleks are the Imperial Daleks made by Davros after the Daleks tried to get him to counter the Movellan virus. I'm talking about field commanders, not the Dalek Supreme or Emperor Dalek.

Go ahead, though, because you did mention the black Daleks, which is the main thing I was looking for.

[Bargaintuan]

By the way, the ones with projectile weapons only had them because the ray guns didn't work on Exxilon.

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NQ. What mineral did the Daleks use to travel in time?

[who45]

Was it Taranium?

[grinner]

yes it was

[grinner]

btw... are you in chat now?

[Bargaintuan]

Let's make a #doctorwho room, where we can discuss Who-related subjects (like the Dalek skirt globe thing :P ).

Edit: I guess we can't. It wouldn't let me create the channel just now, but somehow, #braca is still there. Weird.

[who45]

Originally posted by grinner
btw... are you in chat now?

Yes, but I keep getting bumped off.

[grinner]

are you going thru Mirc or the skiffy site?

[who45]

Originally posted by grinner
are you going thru Mirc or the skiffy site?

skiffy's...I just had to reboot my computer because it froze up...aarrggg! Remember when I said I talk to myself...well frell it I'm doing alot of that now,lol.

[grinner]

I am thru the skiffy site as well. ONly been kicked off once

[who45]

Q. Where did Solon claim to have gotten Condo from?

[Bargaintuan]

I wasn't going to answer this, but no one else is.

He was found in the wreckage of a ship.

[who45]

Yes, it was a Dravidian ship. Your turn.

[Bargaintuan]

Name two ways the Doctor interfered with Dalek history in "Genesis of the Daleks".

[grinner]

Well... he interupted their development by blowing up the incubator room so the development of the Daleks was set back a 1000 years... and also he took Davros out of the equation by having the Daleks turn on him.

[Bargaintuan]

Davros was already out of the equation, since he was never mentioned prior to that episode. The Daleks turned on Davros due to his own lack of foresight, not because of anything the Doctor did.

[grinner]

so... what is the second thing?

[Bargaintuan]

Look at my response. There's a big hint in there. ;)

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DALEKS Created by Davros, the Daleks were the mutated descendants of the Kaleds (a.k.a. Dals), one of the two races living on the planet Skaro. The Daleks lived inside a mobile casing which was equipped with sensor discs, a unique iris and lens, a sucker-stick arm and a special extermination weapon. Their natural form appeared to be small, green, blob-like, octopods with claws. They had one purpose: to exterminate all other life-forms and become the dominant species in the universe. The Emperor Dalek was the supreme Dalek leader. Mention was made of a Dalek Council, presumably reporting to the Emperor. Beneath it were warlords such as the Black or Gold Daleks.
The Daleks' history is subject to different interpretations. It is said that the Daleks began as a humanoid race first known as Dals, then later as Kaleds, on planet Skaro. Their enemies were the Thals, with whom they engaged in fierce warfare, lasting a thousand years, culminating with the neutronic wars which destroyed most of Skaro and made it radioactive. The Kaled scientist Davros studied and further developed some of the mutations resulting from the wars, then created a mobile casing for them and christened his new creatures Daleks. The Daleks' mobile casing was based on Davros's own life support chair. Earlier versions were powered by static electricity. Later versions used various forms of energy, including solar power.
The Time Lords sent the Fourth Doctor to Skaro to stop the development of the Daleks, but he failed, succeeding only in entombing them in the Kaled bunker, after they had turned against their creator (4E).
Later, some crippled Kaled survivors discovered the remnants of Davros' early experiments and mutated themselves into new Daleks. The First Doctor met the new Daleks in the Dalek City and foiled their attempt to destroy the surviving Thals by increasing Skaro's radiation levels. Those new Daleks presumably perished when the Thals destroyed their power controls (B).
The original Daleks ultimayely resurfaced and took over Skaro, driving the Thals in exile. Their ruthlessness enabled them to conquer their space sector. Mankind's slow but steady space expansion attracted the Daleks' attention. By 2160 AD, the Daleks launched a secret plan to invade Earth. First, they spread virulent plagues through a swarm of meteorites. As a result, the solar system was quarantined by the other human colonies. The Daleks struck in 2164 AD, invading an almost depopulated Earth. Any attempt at space intervention was firmly dealt with by the Daleks' space fleet. This became known as the First Dalek War. The Daleks planned to extract Earth's molten core and turn the planet into a giant spaceship. But, in 2167 AD, the First Doctor, Susan, Ian Chesterton and Barbara Wright helped freedom fighters Dortmun, Tyler and David Campbell defeat the invaders (K).
(The same invasion succeeded on a parallel Earth where World War Three had occurred, but was eventually erased from the time continuum when the Third Doctor prevented the death of 20th Century diplomat, Sir Reginald Styles (KKK).)
Some Daleks who had survived this First Dalek War crashed on Vulcan and later tried to take over the human colony there, but were defeated by the Second Doctor, Ben Jackson and Polly (EE).
Earth fought the Daleks again after they tried to blackmail the galaxy by controlling the only supply of parrinium (a mineral found only on Exxilon), the cure to a space plague, which the Daleks had probably started. They were thwarted by the Third Doctor, Sarah Jane Smith and Earth's Marine Space Corps (XXX). Once the Daleks' role in the space plague became known, several galactic races (including the Draconians), probably stirred up by the exiled Thals, united to attack and punish the Daleks. Thus was born the Alliance. The war that ensued became known as the Second Dalek War. The Daleks were then driven from Skaro, which was retaken by the Thals. The Daleks were forced to relocate to another world which, out of pride, they christened Skaro (herein dubbed "Skaro II").
Circa 2540 AD, the Daleks decided that their best tactic would be to create a split between the Alliance's two most powerful members: Earth and Draconia. They engaged the services of the Master to foment a war between the humans and the Draconians, even offering him the use of their Ogron slaves. But the Master's scheme was exposed and defeated by the efforts of the Third Doctor and Jo Grant (QQQ).
The Daleks then plotted to attack the Alliance with the secret of invisibility and a 10,000-strong Dalek army, kept frozen on Spiridon. The Third Doctor and Jo, with the help of a Thal commando unit that had been monitoring the Daleks' moves from Skaro, thwarted them again (SSS). The Thals notified the Alliance of the Daleks' activities, and the Alliance struck back, leading to the Third Dalek War. At one point during this war, a Dalek casing was put on exhibit in the Moroks' Space Museum, and provided a hiding place for the First Doctor (Q). Also, a Dalek was used by Borusa as a pawn in the Game of Rassilon (6K).
The Daleks eventually took advantage of the Alliance's slow disintegration during the 26th Century to launch an attack on Skaro. They succeeded in exterminating most of the Thals, but the planet itself was turned into a bombed-out ruin of no further use to them -- or so they thought. Towards the end of the 26th Century, the Daleks encountered the equally aggressive robotic Movellans, which they could not crush. Caught between the still powerful Alliance and the undefeated Movellans, the Daleks felt trapped. So, as the 27th Century began, they returned to Skaro to recover their long-buried creator, Davros. But their efforts were thwarted by the Fourth Doctor and Romana. Davros was taken to Earth where he was sentenced to life in suspended animation (5J).
Deprived of Davros' help, the Daleks lost their war against the Movellans, who used a special virus to decimate them. While striving to defeat the Movellans, the Daleks had become aware of the Time Lords' existence and discovered the rudiments of time travel technology, involving the use of time corridors. Ninety years after Davros' trial, the Daleks hired Lytton to free Davros from the space penitentiary where he was kept. They also captured the Fifth Doctor and plotted to use him against the Time Lords, who had presumably tried to stop the Daleks' discovery of time travel. The Doctor defeated the Daleks but Davros escaped, now intent on creating new Daleks, subservient only to him (6P).
Davros secretly relocated to Nekros where, posing as the Great Healer, he used the bodies stored in the mortuary known as Tranquil Repose to create his own White (or Imperial) Daleks. But he was exposed and defeated by the Sixth Doctor. Davros was taken back to Skaro II by the Daleks (6Z).
Davros presumably escaped, since he and the Daleks fought again in or about 2963 AD. The two camps used their time corridor technology to travel back in time to 1963 London to capture the Hand of Omega. As a result of the Seventh Doctor's intervention, both Dalek races were utterly devastated. Either Skaro's, or Skaro II's, sun was destroyed. However, Davros, who had already taken to calling himself the Emperor Dalek, escaped (7H).
A long period of inactivity ensued. Sometime between the 32nd and 38th Centuries, the Daleks restored Skaro (or Skaro II?) to its former glory. They also refined their time travel technology. Using taranium, they were now able to build crude time machines. One of their first enterprises was to send an exterminating team to chase the First Doctor, Vicki, Ian and Barbara through time and space. The Dalek squad was eventually destroyed by the Mechanoids (Q).
Circa 4000 AD, the Daleks again tried to take over the Solar System which they perceived (possibly blinded by their centuries-old feud with mankind) as the Federation's lynchpin. This time, they allied themselves with other space races (including Galaxy 5). This became known as the Fourth Dalek War.
The Dalek invasion plans were first discovered on planet Kembel by Space Security Agent Marc Cory, who was murdered by the Daleks (T/A).
Soon afterwards, the First Doctor, Steven Taylor and Katarina arrived on Kembel, and discovered a tape left by Cory. With the help of another space Security Agent, Bret Vyon, they decided to warn Earth of the impending Dalek attack, and of the treachery of Mavic Chen, the Guardian of the Solar System. Chen had given the Dalek the replacement taranium they needed to activate their supreme weapon: the Time Destructor.
The time travellers stole the Daleks' taranium core, and fled Kembel. In the course of their escape, Katarina sacrificed herself to save her companions. Bret Vyon was killed by his sister, Sara Kingdom, who later found out the truth and helped the Doctor. When the Time Destructor was finally activated, it was on Kembel, which put a stop to the Dalek invasion. Unfortunately, its deadly effects also killed Sara Kingdom (V).
Presumably, the Federation then retaliated, and the Daleks were again driven back to Skaro, their power and influence severely curtailed.
A Century or so later, however, the Daleks managed to obtain some more taranium, and decided again to use their time travel capabilities to attack Earth. By then, they were ruled by an Emperor Dalek, who could very well have been Davros, after possibly subjecting himself to further mutations.
Resorting again to their favorite weapon, the biological one, the Daleks planned to infect humanity with the Dalek factor. Having detected Prof. Waterfield's early time travel experiments, the Daleks travelled to 1866 AD Earth. The Emperor's efforts were thwarted by the Second Doctor, Jamie and Victoria Waterfield. Instead of infecting Mankind, it was the Daleks themselves who became contaminated with the Human Factor. A "civil war " in which the Dalek race perished erupted on Skaro (LL).
However, some humanized Daleks may have survived, thereby making the Fourth Doctor's prophecy that eventually a greater good would come of the Daleks' creation come true (4E). The fact that the Daleks eventually become extinct, thanks mostly to the intervention of the Doctor (often manipulated by the Celestial Intervention Agency), may be evidence of Time Lord intervention.

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Originally posted by Bargaintuan
Davros was already out of the equation, since he was never mentioned prior to that episode. The Daleks turned on Davros due to his own lack of foresight, not because of anything the Doctor did. of course Davros wasn't mentioned prior to this episode... this was about the creation of the Daleks. If you read my previous post... it is a pretty detailed history of the Daleks. Davros wasn't ressurected until the Dalek/Movellon war.

[grinner]

or do you mean that the Thals buried the Daleks in the complex for a few years?

[Bargaintuan]

Where's you get that? I'm pretty sure a lot of that stuff isn't canon, because it flatly contradicts stuff on the Beeb's website.

[grinner]

It is canon... because it all comes from the Television show. What the guy that wrote it did was to take each different episode that the Daleks appeared in and figured out where it worked with relation to each other episode
http://www.lofficier.com/dwindex.html

[Bargaintuan]

What I was getting at with my question is that the Doctor was forced to give details of the Daleks' future defeats to Davros, and although the tape didn't survive, Davros did, and most likely had some of those defeats in mind when he created the white and gold Daleks, as evidenced by the Doctor's comments about these more advanced Daleks in "Remembrance of the Daleks".

Anyway, you can go ahead with the next question.

[Bargaintuan]

"Later, some crippled Kaled survivors discovered the remnants of Davros' early experiments and mutated themselves into new Daleks." This was certainly not in the show. What went on in the series certainly is canon, but the way it's connected here is not necessarily correct.

[grinner]

how many fingers did the Type 3 Cybermen have?

[Bargaintuan]

As a side note, the Dalek timeline has to be the most confusing in the Who-niverse, since not only do they possess time travel technology, but the Doctor has interfered in their established history twice.

[grinner]

But it is only later in the timeline that they use the time travel technology. They don't use it to help themselves.

[Bargaintuan]

Well, it depends on what you go by. The BBC has a very different organization of the events than what you posted. Basically, the Doctor's intervention in "Genesis of the Daleks" created a new timeline. The Beeb's version fits the events of the stories better, and doesn't do things like invent a "Skaro II".

[grinner]

Skaro II is actually referenced in the Target transcription of one of the Episodes. It did exist. There are quite a few timelines that include Skaro II... so it isn't something that this person 'Created'. In fact... the Doctor Who role-playing game also includes Skaro II... so it is canon.

[grinner]

by the BBC... you are referencing this, right?
___________________________
Doctor Who | Episode Guide
The first history of the Daleks








In The Daleks, Thal records - a mixture of oral legend and historical

texts - are said to go back about half a million years. The Thals were a warrior race, while the ancestors of the Daleks (Kaleds) were teachers and philosophers. About 500 years before the events of The Daleks a thousand-year-old degenerative war between the two races came to a conclusion (Genesis of the Daleks). Davros, the leading Kaled scientist, developed the Daleks as a 'housing' for mutated Kaleds. He was killed by his creatures after slaughtering the majority of his people. As a term of contempt, the Thals termed the (remaining) Kaleds 'Dalek people' (or - on one occasion in The Daleks - Dals).

Despite these events, the war did not end until the Thals exploded a single neutron bomb. The destruction was so great that the Thals themselves were affected by the radiation. They committed themselves to pacifism as a result.

A group of advanced Daleks survived the explosion by leaving the planet in a hastily constructed spacecraft. Those Daleks left behind were early products of Davros's experimental programme and, although many survived the neutron bomb, they remained trapped in the bunkers beneath the Kaled city for centuries. These Daleks were dependent on both static electricity and high levels of radiation, and their weapons were comparatively weak. The primitive Daleks were destroyed by the Doctor in this story.

(The Doctor never establishes the date of this story, and his comment in The Dalek Invasion of Earth - that The Daleks is set a million years in the future - is pure (inaccurate) speculation. By the time of Planet of the Daleks (the 26th-century ) the tale of the Thal’s penetration of the Dalek city has become a legend.)

The more advanced Daleks developed their own technology, which enabled non-Kaleds to become Dalek mutants. A large number then returned to Skaro and began working on time travel technology in conjunction with Theodore Maxtible (The Evil of the Daleks). (The date is difficult to ascertain, but would have to be somewhere between the 19th and mid-22nd centuries.) Civil war broke out on Skaro, and for a long time the Thals were once more able to live there in peace.

One of the ships that escaped the destruction on Skaro crashed on Vulcan in the 21st or early 22nd century. (Therefore, they recognise the second Doctor, and the Earth colonists have not heard of the Daleks.) Mankind's first major encounter with the Daleks came a little later in 2164. When the Daleks were defeated (The Dalek Invasion of Earth) they completed their time travel programme ('The Daleks discovered the secret of time travel') and attempted to turn this defeat into victory by going back in time and invading the Earth in the late 21st century. ('We have invaded Earth again. We have changed the pattern of history.')

The Doctor's intervention a century later (Day of the Daleks) was so successful that this alternative time-line did not happen. (The Daleks knew of the Doctor, but did not recognise his third incarnation, using a mind analysis machine to confirm his identity.)

Stung by their twin defeats, the Daleks pursued the first incarnation of the Doctor (The Chase), reasoning that if his future intervention could be neutralised their plans would succeed.

Between the 23rd and 25th centuries the Daleks encountered the third Doctor in an untelevised adventure, and then developed a deadly space plague (Death to the Daleks). (The Doctor is recognised in Death to the Daleks, which would seem to take place before Planet of the Daleks.)

In the 26th century the Daleks planned to destroy the Earth- Draconia pact (Frontier in Space), and then conquer the galaxy with a huge, invisible army (Planet of the Daleks).

On Skaro meanwhile, the Thals ended a period of pacifistic isolation by developing space craft. Their first lengthy mission was to Spiridon, where, with the Doctor's help, the Daleks were defeated again. (The Daleks in that story identify the Doctor.)

Mission to the Unknown states that for over a thousand years the Dalek campaign ignored the Milky Way completely. From approximately 3500 they waged campaigns in the Ninth Galactic System and in the constellation of Mir, conquering 70 and 40 planets in the two regions respectively. The Daleks also returned to Skaro, wiping out the Thals who lived there. They had hoped to receive a new direction from their creator, but Davros had not survived.

In the year 4000 the Daleks returned their attention to the solar system, forging an alliance with other races (The Daleks' Master Plan). Once again, the Doctor interceded.

Despite all these defeats the Daleks were never entirely wiped out and the Time Lords predicted a time when the Daleks could become the dominant life-form in the cosmos. As a result of the Doctor's intervention Dalek 'history' was massively changed. (See The second history of the Daleks).

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Doctor Who | Episode Guide
The second history of the Daleks








The Doctor does succeed in changing history in Genesis of the

Daleks. The events of previous Dalek stories, if they happened at all, are now vastly different. The Doctor delays Dalek development by 1000 years, but, more importantly, his actions cause Davros to remain alive.

The Doctor's warnings about the dangers of the Daleks had some effect on their creator, making him paranoid enough to activate a force field in his chair. He thus survives the Daleks' assassination attempt. In the previous time line, Davros was killed and forgotten. Davros also remembered some of the Dalek defeats mentioned by the Doctor. For example, the Daleks retain an interest in Earth and want to invade it again, especially as Davros thinks he knows how they were defeated.

The Daleks, unaware that Davros survived their attack, leave Skaro as soon as they can, going out into space and abandoning their homeworld. They either exterminate the Thals when they leave the bunker or note with disinterest that they have already gone. Embroiled in a war with the Movellans, a group of Daleks return to Skaro many centuries later (Destiny of the Daleks). Davros is, however, taken prisoner by humans, and the Daleks are forced to fight the Movellans without his help.

The Movellans win the war with a virus. Ninety years later a detachment of surviving Daleks rescue their imprisoned creator (Resurrection of the Daleks). The Daleks recognise the Doctor, perhaps from their tactical survey of Gallifrey. This faction is led by the Dalek Supreme, and they have returned to Skaro, perhaps hoping to recover information and equipment left behind.

One hundred years later Davros arrives on Nekros, his programme to turn humans into Daleks already well advanced. (Perhaps when interrogated the Doctor told Davros of the events of Evil of the Daleks, leading Davros to conclude that if the Daleks possess some of the 'human factor' they will not be slaves to logic, and will not be drawn into an impasse as with the Movellans.)

Skaro is known and feared by humans as the Dalek homeworld, but the creatures are not regarded as being an overwhelming threat. (In this time line the combined Draconian/human peace is strong enough to encourage such complacency.) The Supreme Dalek arrests Davros (Revelation of the Daleks) and tries him.

On Skaro, Davros wins the arguments regarding human tissue and mentality, and takes over the white/gold Daleks, augmenting them and himself. He becomes Emperor (perhaps again trying to duplicate a successful pattern described by the Doctor). However, some Daleks rebel over the issue of racial purity.

They learn of the Hand of Omega and leave Skaro to retrieve it and use it to threaten or destroy Davros. Both factions use their primitive time corridor technology to return to Earth in 1963 (Remembrance of the Daleks). Skaro is destroyed by the Hand 1000 years before or after (according to the Doctor) - probably after, putting the date of its destruction somewhere around the 30th century. Davros is left in space near Earth in 1963.

Prior to Genesis of the Daleks, Davros did not feature in Dalek history and was never referred to. Without him the Daleks had a solid, cohesive empire, always with one purpose. With him around they are a mess of squabbling factions, incapable of the unity needed to develop dimensionally transcendental time travel. Whilst Davros lives the Daleks will remain disorganised, and will never become the threat that the Time Lords so feared.

[Bargaintuan]

Yes.

[who45]

Originally posted by grinner
how many fingers did the Type 3 Cybermen have?

If it's the type I'm thinking of, then I think 4?

[grinner]

correct... 3 fingers and a thumb

[who45]

Q. Harrison Chase held Sarah captive to become a host for the Krynoid pod, but the Doctor rescues her. Who instead becomes infected by the pod?

[grinner]

I think it was Keeler

[who45]

Drat it, thought I would get you at least for awhile on that one.

[grinner]

Who was Cherub and who did he kill and who killed him?

[who45]

He was associated with Pike. He killed Longfoot and Pike later killed him.

NQ. Who was Sir Gilles Estram's (The Master)opponent in the jousting match?

[grinner]

I think it is Hugh... but I can't find this answer at all.

[who45]

Yes, you're right.

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NQ. What is the name of the colony which the five humans captured by Styre originated?

[who45]

A. GalSec


NQ.The Doctor uses his faith in what to drive the Haemovores back and was unharmed?

[Bargaintuan]

A. Past companions.

Best trivia question (for this thread on this board) ever (hope it hasn't been asked already)...

NQ. Who is John Crichton?

[grinner]

Already been asked...

John Crichton was a former athlete who was the first to believe Sarah when she told them that they were not on a spaceship to New Earth.

NQ. Which Doctor was tried for Genocide?

[Bargaintuan]

I know this one, but since I don't have a question ready, I'll wait a while.

[who45]

I'm pretty sure it's the sixth Doctor. If right....

NQ.Monarch believes that if he goes back beyond the Big Bang he will meet who?

[who45]

Hints?

[grinner]

Doesn't he think that if he goes back far enough... he will find out that he created everything? Or something along that line.

[Egg]

Sorry for the usual butt in. BUT The Doctor is on now on uk gold, and K9 is doing the Data thing!!!!!!! Joy! I love it!

[grinner]

You suck... EGGS... Egg

[who45]

Originally posted by grinner
Doesn't he think that if he goes back far enough... he will find out that he created everything? Or something along that line.

Well, he wanted to see a creator.....

[grinner]

but didn't he think that he created the universe... so he would see himself?

[grinner]

this is four to doomsday... right?

[who45]

Originally posted by Egg
Sorry for the usual butt in. BUT The Doctor is on now on uk gold, and K9 is doing the Data thing!!!!!!! Joy! I love it!

Ooohhh, that's a low blow Egg.

[who45]

Ahhh sorry, read your answer wrong, and they say I have 20/20 vision..you were right.

[Egg]

Originally posted by grinner
You suck... EGGS... Egg
No.!!!!!! half way through and it's BACK ON AT 7AM, love hate uk Gold.
I'm a pepperpot! with lumps and a sink plunger!

[grinner]

What was used by the Doctor to transport him to Skaros and then back to Nerva?

[who45]

The time ring?

[grinner]

shoot

[who45]

Q. What happened to Margaret and Gwendoline Pritchard?

[grinner]

They were both turned to stone by Light.

NQ. What did Polly realize the Cybermen's chest units were made out of and what did she use to destroy them?

[who45]

They were made of plastic....I think she dissolved them with some kind of chemical but I can't remember what.

[grinner]

it was described as a cocktail of 'chemicals' shot from a fire extinguiser. good enough for me... you're up.

[who45]

NQ. Why do the Ogri never attack Vivien Fay?

[grinner]

didn't they belong to her? I remember that she wasn't who she appeared to be... she was an alien named Cessiar.

[who45]

Yes, she was. Well she did find them and she was their "master", but there was a reason why they never turned on her; there was something of hers that they didn't like....

[grinner]

her blood?

[who45]

Yes you're right.

[grinner]

Who founded the 'Save Planet Earth Society'... and what did it attempt to do?

[who45]

Mmmm...gotta think about this one.

[who45]

Sir Charles Grover founded it. It was a pollution fighting organization. I think it attempted to bring Earth back to a time before pollution began. If I'm right....

NQ. What does Ace use to fight back the Cybermen inside the warehouse while the Doctor recalculated the launch trajectory of Nemisis?

[grinner]

hmmm... good question.

[who45]

Do you want any hints?

[grinner]

nope... I am checking the book.

[grinner]

give me a hint please... thank you.

[who45]

It is something that the Doctor took from Lady Peinforte's study and gives to Ace because he knows it can be used against the Cybermen.

[grinner]

was it the statue?

[who45]

No, it was something that Lady Peinforte gave to the mathematician before she killed him.

[grinner]

It was the bag of gold coins... wasn't it?

[who45]

Yea, you got it.

[grinner]

FINALLY. Frell... wow. I actually had to look at this....http://www.drwhoguide.com/who_7k.htm
so it is cheating sort-of.

NQ. What year did the "MythMakers" occur in... and what did the Doctor invent that is a historical fact?

[who45]

Did they occur in the late 90's? the second part of your question I have no clue.

[grinner]

look up the episode Myth Makers. It is a William Hartnell episode.

[who45]

I googled it earlier and it listed something else in the 1990's called mythmakers. Duh, I could have just looked up episodes. Talk about taking the loooong way around,lol.

Ok, it was 1184 BC and the Doctor invented the Trojan Horse? Is that it?

[grinner]

yes it is. don't worry about it... I spent over a day looking for the answer to your last question when all I had to do was just go to an episode synosis and check it out that way. Idiot... stupid... oh well.

[who45]

NQ. Who returned to Chimeria with Delta?

[grinner]

I think it was her daughter and a boy... I don't remember either of their names. I don't think that there were more than the 3 of them that went to Chimeria.

[who45]

Yes, there was only three that went back. I was looking for the boy, Billy so you were right.

[grinner]

Billy... that is the name.

NQ. Who helped the Master steal the Nestene energy and why?

[who45]

Sorry it's taken me so long to answer. I went away for the weekend.

I think his name was Rossini or Rini.. something like that. He wanted to be bring back the main Nestene to Earth?

[grinner]

yeppers

[who45]

Q. What did Mrs. Tyler give to Leela hoping that it would protect her (Leela)?

[grinner]

was it salt?

[who45]

yes, it was a charm with salt in it.

[grinner]

what a quess.

NQ. What happens to Sorenson and why did it occur?

[who45]

He became mutated with antimatter?

[grinner]

yes but how

[who45]

I think it was because he and his team were harvesting crystals that contained antimatter and he became infected and mutated. Later Salamar came in contact with Sorenson with some kind of radiation lantern which made Sorenson mutate even more. Is that what you were looking for?

[grinner]

more than what I was looking for. I was just looking for the radiation and how he became the Anti-man... but you gave pretty much everything... so... you're up.

[who45]

Q. What happened to Panna's wisdom and experience after she died?

[grinner]

Karuna inherited it. I just read this book again over the weekend.

NQ. Who was Joe Payne and what happened to him?

[who45]

Mmmm...didn't he have something to do with the Cybermen? I think he was with Lieton (sp ?). I'm not sure but I think he betrayed them and was then killed.

[grinner]

but where was he killed.

[who45]

a tunnel in London...I can't remember.

[grinner]

London sewers by the Cyberman...

good enough. It is all you...

[who45]

Originally posted by grinner

...It is all you...

I know that...oh you mean it's my turn:D

Q. What opened the secret door to the room hidden in the Council chambers that Borusa used to control the timescoop and the Death Zone.

[grinner]

I am almost positive the secret door opened when someone played the harp. I don't remember if there was a specific tune or if it was just playing the harp would open it... but I think it was notes. Wasn't there a picture or something that gave the clue to the 5th Doctor?

[who45]

Yep, it was the tune of the harp and yes there was a picture. Thought I had you on that one.

[grinner]

I really had to think about it. I was replaying the episode in my head. And then I found a copy of it... but the tape broke whilst watching it... so... ???

NQ. How many episodes is Borusa in and what rank did he hold in the initial appearance?

[who45]

I think it was four episodes and he was a Cardinal in his initial appearance?

[grinner]

darn... I really thought I had you... wait... name the episodes... just kidding.

[who45]

Invasion of Time, Deadly Assassin, Arc of Infinity and The Five Doctors:D

I had to think on that one and got really lucky,lol.

[grinner]

Show-off... :P:P:P:D

[who45]

Q. When the Doctor and Ace find a spaceship under the lake that is programmed to his voice, Doctor then realizes that in his future he will become who?

[who45]

Originally posted by grinner
Show-off... :P:P:P:D

Sorry but couldn't resist :D

[grinner]

Merlin?

[who45]

Yes. Kinda figured you would get that one.

[grinner]

With whom did Victoria decide to stay with and what was the reason?

[who45]

I think his name was Harris...she wanted a regular life?

[grinner]

well it was the Harris' who took her in as their daughter because she was tired of traveling and wanted a new life since the Doctor couldn't get her back to her own time.

But you got the gist of it. You are up.

[who45]

Q. Who found the dormant Malus in the church?

[grinner]

I think it was Sir George... but I am probably wrong. If I am... I have no idea.

[who45]

No, this person told Sir George about it and was held captive...this person had ties to Tegan...

[grinner]

it wasn't her grandfather... was it?

[who45]

Yes, you guessed it.

[Egg]

sorry to inter but it seemed like a good place for it..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3131364.stm
The Doctor will not go away.....................
It cannot be long before they (Auntie) dip their foot in the water, and do some new TV, can it?

[grinner]

that is wonderful to hear Egg. Thanks for the link.

[grinner]

NQ. Who was destined to be Sarns leader after he was chosen by Logar. Who was he in actuality?

[who45]

Originally posted by Egg
sorry to inter but it seemed like a good place for it..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3131364.stm
The Doctor will not go away.....................
It cannot be long before they (Auntie) dip their foot in the water, and do some new TV, can it?

I thought you came to rub it in that you were watching Doctor Who right now,lol. Thanks Egg :)

[who45]

Originally posted by grinner
NQ. Who was destined to be Sarns leader after he was chosen by Logar. Who was he in actuality?

Mmmm...gotta think on this one.

[who45]

Malkon who was Turlough's brother.

NQ. How does Ace unblock the ice jammed docking bay doors?

[grinner]

doesn't she use her explosives?

[who45]

Yes, nitro-9

[grinner]

In his trial... what did the Doctor compare his trial to? It was the greatest travesty since... what?

[who45]

Does it have anything to do with Rassilon?...I really don't have a clue it's been a very long time since I've seen those episodes.

[Egg]

Have seen the post at the Beeb.? silly question. :dancin:

[who45]

Originally posted by Egg
Have seen the post at the Beeb.? silly question. :dancin:

Excuse me while I go a little crazy wooooo hooooooo!!!!! :bounce: :joy: :colors: :band: :boogie: :clap: :signbravo :crazydanc :partytime :thewave: :bluenana:

[grinner]

This may take a while... seeing how I lost where I got this trivia question from. I need to look ito find it.

But in the meantime... here is a softball....

What Academy did the Doctor attend and what is it's colors?

[who45]

I thought it was called Time Lord Academy or Academy of Time Lord's something along that line. The colors I'm guessing...red and gold?

[grinner]

No... there are 3 different Academies... each with a definate name and colours.

[who45]

Well, I'm really sucking at this lately...two questions that have stumped me....I'll get back to you on this one.

[grinner]

Originally posted by who45
I thought it was called Time Lord Academy or Academy of Time Lord's something along that line. The colors I'm guessing...red and gold? You did get the Red and Gold correct though... do you need a hint?

[who45]

Originally posted by grinner
You did get the Red and Gold correct though... do you need a hint?

Wow, that was a total guess. Yes please.

[grinner]

it starts with a P. The other Academies start with an A and a P also.

[who45]

Is it Prydonians?

[grinner]

yes... but do you have the names of the others?

It is technically the Pryfonian Academy

[who45]

Originally posted by grinner
yes... but do you have the names of the others?

It is technically the Pryfonian Academy

Arcalian and the Patrex?

[grinner]

you are up.

[who45]

Q. Leela's tribe was not going to banish her if she took the test of the Hoarda, she refused. Who offered to take it in her place?

[grinner]

I think it was her father... but I can't remember his name.

[who45]

His name was Sole..good enough for me.

[grinner]

NQ. Why is Federico impatient and what does he tell Hieronymous to do?

[who45]

Federico was impatient because he wanted to become the Duke so he wanted Hieronymous to kill Gulliano before the masque. Is that what you were looking for?

[grinner]

man... I really thought I was going to get you on that one.

[who45]

I watched that episode a couple of weeks ago.

NQ. What was Laurence Scarman's invention and what did it do?

[grinner]

I think it was a radio telescope and it was built to recieve messages from the stars

[who45]

Sorry it took me so long, I've been trying since late last night to get on the board. I finally found a back door, don't know how long it will last....

yes, you're right...he called it the Marconiscope.

[grinner]

NQ. In Enlightment... what caused the TARDIS to lose power? And how was it rectified?

[who45]

I believe it was the white guardian trying to give the Doctor a message...the problem was rectified, I think, when the Doctor used most of the Tardis' power so the White Guardian could get his message through.

[grinner]

frell... that was to easy.

[who45]

Q.Who kills Habris and why?

[Lord Loser]

*While you're both asleep*
DR. WHO, DR. WHO, DR. WHO!!!
hehehehehehehe

[Egg]

Originally posted by Lord Loser
*While you're both asleep*
DR. WHO, DR. WHO, DR. WHO!!!
hehehehehehehe

:rollin: :rollin: :rollin: :rollin: :rollin:
Good thing they don't know where you live!

[who45]

Originally posted by Lord Loser
*While you're both asleep*
DR. WHO, DR. WHO, DR. WHO!!!
hehehehehehehe

Aaaarrrggggg!!!! You have to sleep sometime too...mmmwwwwaaaahhhaaaa *pulling the chloroform and rope out from under the sofa*

[grinner]

Originally posted by who45
Aaaarrrggggg!!!! You have to sleep sometime too...mmmwwwwaaaahhhaaaa *pulling the chloroform and rope out from under the sofa* Yeessss!!! I will be able to use the huge pile of wood yet. When you catch and cloroform him who... we will have a good old fashioned burning at the stake... oh yes.

You should NEVER have riled up us Whovians... NOW you will PAY!!

[Lord Loser]

Originally posted by grinner
You should NEVER have riled up us Whovians... NOW you will PAY!! You callin' me loco?...
Now back to your regularly scheduled game...

[who45]

Originally posted by grinner
Yeessss!!! I will be able to use the huge pile of wood yet. When you catch and cloroform him who... we will have a good old fashioned burning at the stake... oh yes.

You should NEVER have riled up us Whovians... NOW you will PAY!!

That's right...we're everywhere...we know all.

I'll bring the marshmallows too.

[who45]

Originally posted by Lord Loser
You callin' me loco?...
Now back to your regularly scheduled game...

No, we're callin' you toast :smokin:

[grinner]

Originally posted by who45
Q.Who kills Habris and why? Ivo and because Habris murdered Ivo's son.

NQ. Who discovered that the only antidote to spectrox toxaemia was the milk of a queen bat?

[grinner]

Originally posted by who45
No, we're callin' you toast :smokin: and here I was going to call him... Crispy

[Lord Loser]

:rollin:

[who45]

Originally posted by grinner
Ivo and because Habris murdered Ivo's son.

NQ. Who discovered that the only antidote to spectrox toxaemia was the milk of a queen bat?

It took me awhile before I realized you'd answered mine...duh me..

If my memory is correct...I think it was Jek...or maybe it was Morgus...I'm going to go with Sharaz Jek.

[grinner]

No... he just controlled the caves which were the source of the milk. He didn't discover the anti-dote.

[who45]

Well, the only other I can think of is Jackeg... not sure of the spelling.

[grinner]

Yes it was Prof. Jackij

[who45]

NQ. When Skagra left the space station Think Tank, he had a message broadcasted that said what; that Foundation for the Study of Advanced Sciences was what so no one would come?

[grinner]

man... this is a good question.

[who45]

Originally posted by grinner
man... this is a good question.

Want any hints?

[grinner]

wasn't it his mind imprint that he tried to send out. Anyone that received it would have his mind imprinted on them? From Shada right?

[who45]

From the Tom Baker version. It was a message that he had recorded to keep other ships away....that the Think Tank was under.....

[grinner]

I can't find anything.

[who45]

Look under the Doctor Who reference guide site.

[grinner]

I have been.
this one? http://www.drwhoguide.com/who_5m.htm

[who45]

http://www.drwhoguide.com/who.htm

Here's the site if you don't have it.

[who45]

Originally posted by grinner
I have been.
this one? http://www.drwhoguide.com/who_5m.htm

You were faster,lol. yes, that's it.

[grinner]

I will have to re-read it. I have a meeting in a half-hour so it will be later tonight... sorry

[who45]

Ok, no problem.

[blue]

I've seen all the Doctor Who's so long ago I can't play this game--but I do have one question for you experts--just checked on the site above and couldn't find the answer. The question is (an aside-not part of the game)
What is the Doctor's favorite number?

[who45]

Originally posted by blue
I've seen all the Doctor Who's so long ago I can't play this game--but I do have one question for you experts--just checked on the site above and couldn't find the answer. The question is (an aside-not part of the game)
What is the Doctor's favorite number?

I don't know and I couldn't find it either...maybe grinner can give you the answer.

[grinner]

It was actually asked and answered a while ago. I will see if I can find it.

[grinner]

was it "Do Not Approach"?

[who45]

yes..because it was under quarantine...you're next.

[grinner]

Originally posted by grinner
In Power of Kroll, The Doctor mentions that 7 is his lucky number.

[grinner]

NQ. One of the Doctor's had to ask for the Council of TimeLords help... what was the reason and what was the outcome?

[who45]

I'll have to get back to you on this... hard to think right now.

[who45]

Originally posted by grinner
NQ. One of the Doctor's had to ask for the Council of TimeLords help... what was the reason and what was the outcome?

Does it have to do with the Second Doctor and the War Games episode?

[grinner]

maybe?

[grinner]

darn... yes.

[who45]

Ok..so it was the second Doctor...didn't he ask them to help return the soldiers to their right times and the outcome was that they were returned.

If that's right then...

NQ.What happened to the time ring when the Doctor, Sarah and Harry arrive back at the Nerva Beacon?

[grinner]

What happened to the Doctor is what I was looking for.

A. I think it disintergrates...

[who45]

Originally posted by grinner
What happened to the Doctor is what I was looking for.

A. I think it disintergrates...

sort of...it disappeared.


I don't remember what happened to the Doctor.

[grinner]

he was tried before the council and was forcibly regenerated and stranded on Earth.

NQ. What was ruled by the Master Brain and what happened to it?

[who45]

Originally posted by grinner
he was tried before the council and was forcibly regenerated and stranded on Earth.

NQ. What was ruled by the Master Brain and what happened to it?

yeah, I knew the answer all along, I was just making sure that you knew it....can't believe I couldn't remember that.

Wasn't it a writer called the Master that was ruled by the Master Brain? The Master Brain tried to kill him and then take over the Doctor. The Doctor frees the writer aka. the Master from the Master Brain by overloading his mind.

[grinner]

no... WHAT did the Master Brain rule... not who. What happened to IT?

[who45]

The Land of fiction? I think it was destroyed. If that's not right I have no idea.

[grinner]

yep it was destroyed by Zoe

[grinner]

you're up.

[who45]

You mean I finally got it right...wow,lol.

NQ. When Romana regenerated, how many bodies did she go through before she settled (or the Doctor agreed) on Astra's form?

[grinner]

I think it was 5... but if that isn't it, you can just tell me and ask again cause everything will be a guess. :lol

[who45]

4 if you count Astra's form the first time, then there was three more after that.

NQ. The Doctor saw in a sports car two shrunken bodies. One was Tegan's Aunt Vanessa's and who was the other one?

[grinner]

A police officer/Bobby

NQ. Who replaced Li H'Sen Chang as Greel's main servant and what happened to him?

[who45]

Originally posted by grinner
A police officer/Bobby

NQ. Who replaced Li H'Sen Chang as Greel's main servant and what happened to him?

The only one I can think of is Mr. Sin. The Doctor eneded up destroying him by taking out his cerebral cortex..or something like that.

[grinner]

nope... not Mr. Sin... you want to guess again or do you want the answer?