Worst Movie you've ever seen.

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Originally Posted by Jeff O'Connor

Everything mentioned thus far I agree with, and I add to the pile, most everything with Jean Claude Van Damm I've never been able to watch because I think he's a bad actor, but that's just me. I guess I should REALLY say... "Street Fighter". Ewww.

More appropriately, ANYTHING DIRECTED BY ALBERT PYUN.

Or MANY items in the Golan-Globus/Canon film library.

Examples -

Albert Pyun:
2001 'Ticker' - Director
1999 'The Wrecking Crew' - Director
1999 'Corrupt' - Director
1999 'Urban Menace' - Director
1998 'Crazy Six' - Director
1997 'Mean Guns' - Director
1996 'Raven Hawk' - Director
1996 'Omega Doom' - Director
1996 'Adrenalin: Fear the Rush' - Screenwriter/Director
1996 'Blast' - Director
1996 'Nemesis 4: Cry of Angels' - Director
1995 'Nemesis 2: Nebula' - Director
1995 'Heatseeker' - Director
1995 'Nemesis 3: Prey Harder' - Director
1994 'Spitfire' - Director
1994 'Kickboxer 4: The Aggressor' - Screenwriter/Director
1994 'Hong Kong 97' - Director
1993 'Brain Smasher: A Love Story' - Screenwriter/Director
1993 'Nemesis' - Director
1993 'Knights' - Director
1993 'Deceit' - Director
1993 'Arcade' - Director
1992 'Captain America' - Director
1991 'Dollman' - Director
1991 'Bloodmatch' - Director/Producer
1990 'Kickboxer 2: The Road Back' - Director
1989 'Cyborg' - Director
1989 'Deceit' - Director
1987 'Vicious Lips' - Screenwriter/Director
1987 'Down Twisted' - Screenwriter/Director
1986 'Dangerously Close' - Director
1986 'Radioactive Dreams' - Screenwriter/Director
1983 'Alien from L.A.' - Screenwriter/Director
1982 'The Sword and the Sorcerer' - Screenwriter/Director

Golan-Globus aka Canon Films:

52 Pick-Up (1986, John Frankenheimer)
Alien from L.A. (1983, Albert Pyun)
The Ambassador (1984, J. Lee Thompson)
America 3000 (1986, David C. Engelbach)
American Ninja (1985, Sam Firstenberg)
American Ninja 2: The Confrontation (1987, Sam Firstenberg)
The Apple (1980, Menahem Golan)
Appointment with Death (1988, Michael Winner)
Assassination (1987, Peter Hunt)
The Assisi Underground (1984, Alexander Ramati)
Avenging Force (1986, Sam Firstenberg)
I Barbari (1987, Ruggero Deodato)
Barfly (1987, Barbet Schroeder)
Beauty and the Beast (1987, Eugene Marner) TV
The Berlin Affair (1985, Liliana Cavani)
Body and Soul (1981, George Bowers)
Bolero (1984, John Derek)
Braddock: Missing in Action 3 (1988, Aaron Norris)
Breakin' (1984, Joel Silberg)
Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo (1984, Sam Firstenberg)
Business As Usual (1987, Lezli-Ann Barrett)
Un Complicato Intrigo Di Donne, Vicoli E Delitti (1985, Lina Wertmüller)
Cobra (1986, George Pan Cosmatos)
A Cry in the Dark (1988, Fred Schepisi)
Cyborg (1989, Albert Pyun)
The Dancers (1987, Herbert Ross)
Dangerously Close (1986, Albert Pyun)
Death Wish 2 (1982, Michael Winner)
Death Wish 3 (1985, Michael Winner)
Death Wish 4: The Crackdown (1987, J. Lee Thompson)
Deja Vu (1984, Tonino Ricci)
The Delta Force (1986, Menahem Golan)
Detective School Dropouts (1985, Filippo Ottoni)
Diamonds (1974, Menahem Golan)
Doin' Time on Planet Earth (1988, Charles Matthau)
Down Twisted (1987, Albert Pyun)
Dr. Heckyl and Mr. Hype (1980, Charles Griffith)
Duet for One (1986, Andrei Konchalovsky)
Dutch Treat (1986, Boaz Davidson)
Enter the Ninja (1981, Menahem Golan)
Escape to the Sun (1972, Menahem Golan)
The Exterminator 2 (1984, Mark Buntzman)
Firewalker (1986, J. Lee Thompson)
Fool for Love (1985, Robert Altman)
The Four Deuces (1975, William H. Bushnell, Jr.)
Pistola di Dio (1975, Gianfranco Parolini)
The Godsend (1979, Gabrielle Beaumont)
Going Steady (1979, Boaz Davidson)
Grace Quigley (1984, Anthony Harvey)
Hanna's War (1988, Menahem Golan)
The Hanoi Hilton (1987, Lionel Chetwynd)
Hansel and Gretel (1987, Len Talan)
The Happy Hooker Goes to Hollywood (1980, Alan Roberts)
Haunted Summer (1988, Ivan Passer)
Hero and the Terror (1988, William Tannen)
Hospital Massacre (1981, Boaz Davidson)
Hot Chili (1985, William Sachs)
Hot Resort (1985, John Robins)
House of the Long Shadows (1982, Pete Walker)
The House on Chelouche Street (1973, Moshe Mizrahi)
I Love You Rosa (1972, Moshe Mizrahi)
I'm Almost Not Crazy: John Cassavetes (1984, Michael Ventura) Doc
Invaders from Mars (1986, Tobe Hooper)
Invasion U.S.A. (1985, Joseph Zito)
Kid Vengeance (1977, Joseph Manduke)
King Lear (1987, Jean-Luc Godard)
King Solomon's Mines (1985, J. Lee Thompson)
Kinjite: Forbidden Subjects (1989, J. Lee Thompson)
The Kitchen Toto (1987, Harry Hook)
Lady Chatterley's Lover (1981, Just Jaeckin)
The Last American Virgin (1982, Boaz Davidson)
Lepke (1975, Menahem Golan)
Love Streams (1984, John Cassavetes)
Lupo (1970, Menahem Golan)
The Magician of Lublin (1979, Menahem Golan)
Making the Grade (1984, Dorian Walker)
Maria's Lovers (1984, Andrei Konchalovsky)
Masters of the Universe (1987, Gary Goddard)
Mercenary Fighters (1988, Riki Shelach Nissimoff)
Messenger of Death (1988, J. Lee Thompson)
Missing in Action (1984, Joseph Zito)
Missing in Action 2: The Beginning (1985, Lance Hool)
Murphy's Law (1986, J. Lee Thompson)
My African Adventure (1987, Boaz Davidson)
The Naked Face (1984, Bryan Forbes)
Nana (1982, Dan Wolman)
New Year's Evil (1980, Emmett Alston)
Ninja 3 - The Domination (1984, Sam Firstenberg)
Number One with a Bullet (1987, Jack Smight)
Operation Thunderbolt (1977, Menahem Golan)
Ordeal by Innocence (1984, Desmond Davis)
Otello (1986, Franco Zeffirelli)
Over the Brooklyn Bridge (1983, Menahem Golan)
Over the Top (1986, Menahem Golan)
P.O.W.: The Escape (1986, Gideon Amir)
Powaqqatsi (1988, Godfrey Reggio) Doc
Sapiches (1982, Boaz Davidson)
Rappin' (1985, Joel Silberg)
Red Riding Hood (1987, Adam Brooks)
Revenge of the Ninja (1983, Sam Firstenberg)
Rumpelstiltskin (1986, David Irving)
Runaway Train (1985, Andrei Konchalovsky)
Sahara (1983, Andrew V. McLaglen)
Salsa (1988, Boaz Davidson)
The Secret of Yolanda (1982, Joel Silberg)
Shy People (1987, Andrei Konchalovsky)
Snow White (1988, Michael Berz)
Street Smart (1987, Jerry Schatzberg)
Surrender (1987, Jerry Belson)
Sword of the Valiant (1983, Stephen Weeks)
10 to Midnight (1983, J. Lee Thompson)
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 (1986, Tobe Hooper)
That Championship Season (1982, Jason Miller)
Tough Guys Don't Dance (1987, Norman Mailer)
Il Tesoro delle Quattro Corone (1982, Ferdinando Baldi)
Undercover (1987, John Stockwell)
The Uranium Conspiracy (1978, Menahem Golan)
The Wicked Lady (1983, Michael Winner)
Eagles Attack at Dawn (1970, Menahem Golan)
The Emperor's New Clothes (1987, David Irving)
Schizoid - Murder by Mail (1988, D. Paulson)
Sleeping Beauty (1987, David Irving) Anim
My Margo (1969, Menahem Golan)
Manifesto (1989, Dusan Makavejev)
Allan Quatermain and the Lost City of Gold (1987, Newt Arnold)
Too Much (1987, Eric Rochat)
Hame' Ahev (1986, Michael Bat-Adam)
Hashingaon Hagadol (1986, Naftali Alter)
Lemon Popsicle (1979, Boaz Davidson)
It's a Funny, Funny World (1978, Zvi Shissel)
Field of Honor (1986, Hans Scheepmaker)
Superman IV: The Quest for Peace (1987, Sidney J. Furie)
Schizoid (1980, D. Paulson)
Katz & Karasso (1971, Menahem Golan)
Shifshuf Naim (1981, Boaz Davidson)
Edut Me' Oness (1984, Raphael Rebibo)
Imi Hageneralit (1979, Yoel Zilberg)
Nissuim Nosach Tel Aviv (1979, Yoel Zilberg)
Speedway Junky (1998, Nickolas Perry)

Granted, Golan and Globus had their moments - 'Lifeforce' (1981) will always be one of my favorite films - but they had many, many other misses - the 'Breakin' films, their more recent 'Lambada' films, the 'Death Wish' franchise [Nºs 2-4], all those Chuck Norris films, and anything that stars BOTH Christopher Lambert AND Mario Van Peebles, and many of their Olivier Gruner ('VelocityTrap' good only for Alicia Coppola - no relation to Francis Ford,'Automatic', 'Universal Soldier', etc.) and early Van Damme flicks.

And did I mention 'Dirty Dancing'?

Ok - I think I'm done... for the moment.

[Mazinger]

I saw Mean Guns not too long ago. I didnt think it was too bad.

[grinner]

1993 'Nemesis' - Director

this was actually a pretty decent film. Too bad that the director screwed over Olivier Gruner so he wouldn't appear in the sequels. Cyberpunk at its most noir-ish.

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Originally Posted by Mazinger

I saw Mean Guns not too long ago. I didnt think it was too bad.

There are, of course exceptions. The odds are against Pyun et al., making as many films as they have, and that all of them be complete, money-losing stinkers.

In theory, they would have had to go out of business, before they were unable to make NO MONEY on any of their enterprises. And yes, 'Mean Guns' wasn't so bad, but it should have ended just a bit differently.

A question about 'Mean Guns': Is Ice-T an 'actor' in that film, or is his casting just a cynical stunt to get his rap-fans into the theaters to see the film?

[Mazinger]

Probably a little of both

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1993 'Nemesis' - Director

Actually, that film is the only reason I've put Albert Pyun on my Tivo 'Wish List'. I've heard good things about it, but then maybe I just ought to see if I can get a $5.00 copy off of Ebay or something...

[grinner]

Nemesis is a gritty noir type of film that reminds me a bit of Blade Runner. Cyberpunk is a missing genre that has not really be explored very well in movies.

[marandken]

Originally Posted by grinner

I have never seen Titanic. There are quite a bit more than 5 people in the US that haven't seen it... as none of my brothers have seen it either. That is 5 right there.

That's great news. From the looks I get, I thought it was just us.....

I guess that's another excellent quality of the scapers here at FMD.

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grinner, have you seen the Korean film 'Natural City'? It's billed as a Korean Blade Runner, but it owes a bit more to 'Ghost In the Shell', strangely enough. It's not a 'great' film, once you get past the subtitles, but it works alright, I suppose.

There's also 'Dead or Alive:Final' by Takashi Miike which is in the same league as the former - both I suppose started well enough, but got so eccentric that I lost interest after the first 1/2 hour, though I did tape them for later consumption.

But American production companies have tended to shy away from cyberpunk with the exception of the Matrix trilogy, '12 Monkeys', the awful 'Impostor' and the to-be-revisited 'Suspect Device'. Somehow, I suspect (sic) that Roger Corman bested director Gary Fleder and Dimension/Buena Vista/Disney on this one. If the Fleder pic had had any of the relative 'darkness' of Spielberg's last two cr@p sci-fi films, it would have been a better picture. But I suppose the budget for 'Impostor' made that all but impossible.

Oh well - another wasted opportunity from the House of Eisner...

[ayando]

speaking of korean and japanese films, has anyone checked out the trailer for Casshern yet? if not do so, it's simply breathtaking. www.casshern.com

[grinner]

my brother has Natural City... I may have to have him send me it.

[Mazinger]

Another horrible movie: Gothika.

[Digger]

The Last American Virgin (1982, Boaz Davidson)

Now this is a minor classic IMO. I will admit to having seen it about 20 times. Usiually as a double feature with Valley Girl.

[AnnieBW]

Originally Posted by grinner

any movie with Whoopie in... and Ted Danson... and Richard Gere... and etc...

Richard Gere.... ack! The only good thing I've seen him in was "Chicago". The worst movie, for me, was "First Knight". Gere was playing Lancelot as a Zen knight or something like that. It was horrible! John and I kept doing "Holy Grail" lines through it. The only reason we didn't walk out was because we were seeing it to get some time away from my parents during our Christmas visit.

"Star Trek: Generations" ranks pretty low on my list, too. Even worse than ST5, or "Star Bleck: The Motion Sickness". At least those two didn't kill Kirk!

[MacTech]

Add in another vote for the horror that is Manos :vomit:

one major problem i had with The Sum of All Fears, being an armchair pilot myself;

the scene with the helicopter flying as the Thermonuclear bomb goes off rubs me the wrong way for many reasons;

1; nuclear explosions create an EMP (Electromagnetic pulse), unless the chopper had electronics shielded against EMP, which i doubt, as it wasn't a millitary aircraft, the electronics would have shut down, and the chopper would be forced into an autorotation landing
2; the pressure wave that tore off the tail rotor (if i remember the scene correctly) would have forced the chopper into an uncontrolled spin (assuming the same pressure wave wouldn't have affected the main rotor as well), the tail rotor's job is to stabilize the chopper and prevent it from going into an uncontrolled spin

a good example of an uncontrolled spin is in the infamous B movie "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes", there's a scene in the beginning of the movie where a helicopter pilot loses his tailrotor, the craft goes into an uncontrolled spin and crashes

3; the people in the chopper would have been exposed to massive amounts of ionizing radiation at the crash site, logically, Afflek's character should have died shortly after landing, or at least show signs of radiation sickness

i just remembered another bad aircraft-related scene in a different movie....

in ID4, when Air Force One is taking off and the fireball from the alien's superweapon is approaching the tail of AF1, one of two things should have happened;

1; the fire would have reduced the amount of oxygen being pulled into the engines, causing a reduction, if not total loss of power
2; heat rises, fire produces heat, as the fireball approached the tail of AF1, it would have lifted the tail of the aircraft, driving the nose of AF1 into the runway and causing a crash