PK Tech Girl and Exodus from Genesis [spoilers for 1.03, 1.07]

[Chi27]

Slowly but surely I'm filling in the gaps and since I got hooked on S3 and 4, I'm now basically working my way backwards through the earlier seasons.

The J&A in S3 & 4 are light years from their selves in S1 and most notably in this episode -- at least in my opinion.

In Exodus, on the surface, Aeryn can barely tolerate John. According to her training, he's a "lesser lifeform" and what could he "possibly do for her" (or something like that). Ok, Aeryn, keeping telling yourself that. LOL. Skipping forward not too far into the future you have Aeryn who is definitely attracted to him to the point that they do the deed. In that instance, it was all about sex for her (your mileage may vary), but then comes her denial phase where she fights what she knows is there in S2. The biggest change in S3 is where she knows she loves him and freely admits it.

John on the other hand -- my god I can't believe how naive he is here. He's such a sweet guy, not that I don't love my John in the later seasons who has become rough around the edges. But let's face it, he's been around the block a few times -- or a few solar systems. Being hunted first by Crais, then Scorpy and the Scarrans will change anybody's outlook on life. LOL. He didn't even own a pulse pistol for christ's sake. It was priceless seeing him leap up on that ledge when he came across the bugs in Exodus.

John would never have been able to kill Aeryn if she went into the end stage of heat delirium. He just doesn't have it in him. He would rather hold out hope and search for a cure than do that.

In PK Tech Girl, I was prepared to dislike Gilina. But she's not a character that you can hate. She's really kind of naive (like John) and sweet. Definitely not tough like Aeryn. Speaking of Aeryn, at first she wasn't cutting Gilina any slack.

I got a kick out of the fact that Gilina wasted no time finding out if John had the...ahem...right parts. If I was in her shoes, I would've pulled the same stunt. But it gets better than that -- we get to see jealous Aeryn after she finds John and Gilina together kissing. Guess the green eyed monster came out and bit her on the butt after all and so early in the season. <g> She even admits that she found him "interesting". So what does that mean -- that from the moment she meant him wanted to jump him. <g> Also, take note how John wasted no time leaving Gilina and going after her when he saw how pissed she was. Umm...there was much to that than just the fact that he and Aeryn are shipmates and he wanted to smooth things over. If that was the case, I think Aeryn would've survived. By going after her in the way he did was a reaction to her obvious jealousy of Gilina and spoke volumes (to me at least) that it would always be about Aeryn whether he consciously knew it or not.

That kiss between him and Gilina was definitely hot. Talk about tonsil hockey! No wonder Gilina fell in love with him. To bad for her (but not us) that their time apart until they meet again, has brought J&A much closer.


Thanks for reading my rambling review.

[Doc Holiday]

aaah Gilina my love. I truyl love my PK Tech Girl

[The Keeper]

I was able to get through watching PK Tech Girl for the sole reason that I had already watched a few of Season 3 episodes before I had watched the whole of season 1 and 2.

Also I had seen the actor who played Gilina on Home and Away, and I really didnt like her character on there either, so its all good.

[Doc Holiday]

The Keeper,

You're making me angry. I don't think your gonna like me when I'm angry. LOL Gilina is cool to me. She is sexy cause she is an engineer or Tech Girl.

[The Keeper]

Originally posted by Doc Holiday
The Keeper,

You're making me angry. I don't think your gonna like me when I'm angry. LOL Gilina is cool to me. She is sexy cause she is an engineer or Tech Girl.

Lol. My bad.

[Jeff O'Connor]

I liked her too.

[Doc Holiday]

It is ok Keeper but do not let it ever happen again. LOL

[JrMissToughChick]

Gillina Rocked!! too bad she's dead but John and Aeryn are together

[The Keeper]

Originally posted by Doc Holiday
It is ok Keeper but do not let it ever happen again. LOL

Hmm I can't promise you anything. lol.

[Doc Holiday]

Keeper I will forgive you if you allow me to use your Johnny Depp Once Upon a Time In Mexico avatar. Please!!

[so-much-4-sanity]

I just watched PK Tech girl this morning and I like that it gave some relationship history to John that Aeryn can identify with; similar to Larraq in reverse (I mean how different is Gillina from Aeryn and how different is Larraq from John). One thing I love about the Season 1 relationship between John and Aeryn is all the possibility. Of course your heart is just wrenching in the angst of Season 3 & 4 but all the possibility undergerding Season 1 is fun to watch in retrospect.

However, I don't like Gillina, I find her boring and without complexity, besides I don't like how quickly she fell in love with John (this goes back to the boring w/o complexity statement). Lust, yes, love, no.

I agree though, that there was already more to their relationship than meets the eye. I think it's fair to say that John found Aeryn intersting as well. It's not too long after this that we have The Flax (one of my personal fav moments of S1) and A Human Reaction...

When John and Gillina meet up again in Nerve and more to the point in Hidden Memory, I don't like how John treats her, but I do like to see how much John has changed in such a short while.

[Chi27]

Originally posted by so-much-4-sanity
However, I don't like Gillina, I find her boring and without complexity, besides I don't like how quickly she fell in love with John (this goes back to the boring w/o complexity statement). Lust, yes, love, no.

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When John and Gillina meet up again in Nerve and more to the point in Hidden Memory, I don't like how John treats her, but I do like to see how much John has changed in such a short while.

I didn't find Gilina boring. It's evident in Hidden Memory that she's quite talented and clever. Like Aeryn her talents were being wasted on the gammak base. She and Aeryn obviously came totally different backgrounds. I'd venture a guess in that she wasn't born on a command carrier like Aeryn, which explains her lack of inhabitions about expressing her emotions to John. The only thing about Gilina that's "disturbing" is that emotionally and physically, she seems more human than us, though she isn't human.

As for John's treatment of her in Hidden Memory, it was evident that in that relatively short time since they had first met that he was truly in love with Aeryn. I think he toyed with the idea that there could've been something between him and Gilina, but it's so obvious that it was all about Aeryn in Hidden Memory. Yes, he was a little cold towards Gilina, but it showed that his feelings lie elsewhere and that finding a cure for Aeryn consumed his thoughts.

[Darth Buddha]

I agree with you about Gilina's skills, Chi27.

John is O.K. with the new tech as time rolls on, but better with theory. Just as he is O.K. as a warrier, but Aeryn probably still has the edge on him (though if he can pull any skills from Harvey, when Harvey is being nice, I'd have to reverse that).

As to the change in John... I often think that the biggest change isn't the experiences... it might be Harvey. Without the chip, Harvey is in John's neural tissue only....

Could their personalities be bleeding together at the edges? Given enough time, if he doesn't find a way to ditch them, will he eventually become a seamless mixture of he two? John's traits dominant, but a lot of Scorpy there.

Makes one wonder, since Aeryn seemed to fall in love with him AFTER Harvey was there... would she have felt that way about just Johnny?

[Dangermousie]

That is such an interesting theory.

I think there was attraction between them before the chip got instaled. And I got the feeling that Aeryn fell for him sometimes in S1, before Harvey was there (in S2 it wasn't Harvey either. The Chip is quite malevolent and very different from Harvey, IMO).

Harvey doesn't change Crichton's personality, I think. In fact, he takes on aspects of Crichton's personality instead. In some ways, it's John talking to himself (not just literally, but it's a very creative expression of that).

[Nicola]

Originally posted by Darth Buddha
As to the change in John... I often think that the biggest change isn't the experiences... it might be Harvey. Without the chip, Harvey is in John's neural tissue only....

Could their personalities be bleeding together at the edges? Given enough time, if he doesn't find a way to ditch them, will he eventually become a seamless mixture of he two? John's traits dominant, but a lot of Scorpy there.

I am not convinced that John is taking on aspects of Scorpius' personality, but it is very clear that Harvey is taking on aspects of Johns.

One of John's major handicaps when he arrived in the UT's is that he was completely uninformed about the various customs, races, political machinations and basic realities of this new universe. He managed to muddle through with the help of Aeryn and the others, but his ignorance was eventually going to get him killed.

Harvey manages to supply information and perspective for John (and prevent him from getting dead) but he does not supply emotional context. He even says so in "Into the Lions Den" when they are discussing wormholes and Scarrans:

"I share his intellect, but not his passions nor his fears. Yes. My assessment would be more objective than his."

Makes one wonder, since Aeryn seemed to fall in love with him AFTER Harvey was there... would she have felt that way about just Johnny?

I don't know, I think Aeryn was falling in love with him (although she didn't know it) as early as PK Tech Girl "In the beginning, I found you interesting." And early season two in "The Way We Weren't" she acknowledges that she now recognises her feelings as 'love'. The love she was talking about was between her and Velorek, but she didn't know what to call it until she felt it again, and John was able to put a name to it.

John did have the Scorpy chip by that time, but he was unaware of it, and it wasn't strong enough to change his personality or control him.